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Petermarc
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:53 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

drinking and smoking? together? outrageous!
Petermarc
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

kung fu, grasshopper...
Louched_Liver
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Heiko,

Where ya been man? I was worried about you.
Chevalier
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 11:35 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Petermarc: Absinthe-drinking and pipe-smoking seem to go together, don't they? There are a fair number of paintings, etchings, etc., that combine the two vices. Perhaps they cancel each other out. (Not!)
Sicboy13
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 11:33 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

"sicboy13, you have passed the test, time for you to go..."

pardon?
Petermarc
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 10:50 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

i don't think the pernod people are that interested in history, and use the term to cover poets/artists, etc. of yore and today...
boheme
circa 1910 from the book 'lives of the bohemians'
(french, about parisian 'bohemians')
Heiko
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 8:00 am:   Edit PostPrint Post


Quote:

'bohemian'(their description)
version, involving carmelizing the sugar 'a la czech'(my decription, they do not mention the czech)...



The German word "böhmisch" translates to "bohemian", but it's only used geographically to denote something or someone from Böhmen (= Bohemia, see map).

Bohemia

The Roma, a gypsy people who came to France during the 15th century, were in posession of a letter of safe conduct from Sigismund, King of Bohemia. Because of this letter signed by the "Roi de Bohème", the French called the gypsies "Bohèmiens".
Much later, in the 19th century, "bohèmien" was used to describe the lifestyle of a certain group of artists and poets living in Paris.

In German, for this denotation we must use the French word, and we only use it as a noun: "die Bohème" - no adjective (as far as I know).

So, I guess Pernod uses "böhmisch" rather than "tschechisch" probably because the word "czech" in combination with absinthe has a bad reputation. However, there is absolutely no, not even the slightest connotation to "Bohème" in the German "böhmisch" (I only noticed this correlation because I looked up the word "böhmisch" in the dictionary to give you the correct translation of it - then I saw it translates to "bohemian", which totally surprised me).

Now isn't it frightening that "bohèmien" actually means "czech"? ;)
Louched_Liver
Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ok.
Petermarc
Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 3:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

yes, here it is:

>For the execution of the classical drinking ritual a Absinth soaked sugar cube on a special spoon must be burned.
-www.absinth-shop.com c.2002 translation: babel phish

sicboy13, you have passed the test, time for you to go...
Petermarc
Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 3:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

my understanding was that he was refering to the suggestions of www.absint-shop, itself, and not pernod, specifically...
Louched_Liver
Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 12:18 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Pmarc,

I believe Sicboy alluded to same, right there at your feet. And said "screw 'em".
Admin
Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I was wondering, thanks Peter!

Interesting indeed, those bastards.
Petermarc
Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 7:14 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

for those of you still wondering about the german pernod 68° hang-tag (ok, no one, but still...)
after describing the sugar/spoon/water ritual, pernod marketing goes on to explain the 'bohemian'(their description)
version, involving carmelizing the sugar 'a la czech'(my decription, they do not mention the czech)...by giving credibiltiy to this method, pernod has not only severed it's tradional roots, but puts itself into the same camp as it's modern competition, not as a leader, but as a copier and follower, of products that claimed to have copied them...this places more emphasis on their commitment to their ledgers and not their legend, if the product, itself, was not testiment enough...(it is better than virtually all czech brands and most spanish and many german, but, really...)
Sicboy13
Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 11:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Nevermind, they want us to burn our sugar. Must be working for the Czechs'
Sicboy13
Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 11:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I emailed absint-shop today, got this back

"For USA:

the price is the same converted with momentary exchange rate. additional shipping and 10% of total (including shipping) for paypal/exchange fees.

you can use this link as a currency converter:

http://www.xe.net/ucc/



shipping costs depend to the weight.

0-4kg 29 EUR

-8kg 36 EUR

-12kg 44 EUR

-20kg 60 EUR



1 bottle weights 1,2kg (0,7 l) or 1,6kg (1 l), 1 glass 0,3kg. please notice that using a good box (with some padding) that will make the journey without crash may add some weight, mostly about 1-2 kg, a bigger number of bottles will need a harder and heavyer box.

Shipping will take about 14 days.



translations:

if you like you could use the

altavista translation service for translating my shop websites:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/
copy and paste the following URLs of my shop to the altavista translator:

http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/main.htm

http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/deutsche_abs..htm

http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/franzoesische_abs..htm

http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/spanische_abs..htm

http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/tschechische_abs..htm

http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/zubehoer.htm



there were no problems with customs or loss yet."

I may try them. Some of the colors in the pictures were quite putrid, blue as Windex. I would like to try the Pernod.
Giovannigray
Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Crowlyman..Do a keyword search for them. I know there were some opinions offered on Ulex a while back, and I also seem to remember something about Mata Hari (an unfavorable impression, I think).
Crowlyman
Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 9:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

has anyone tried some of the other brands there at http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/??
Absinthe Mata Hari or ULEX Likör Pierre Ordinaire

I dont see either on of these in the review section...it says they have high thujone content, but that matters not if they taste like piss or mouthwash.
Wolfgang
Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 2:30 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

All we wanna know is who`s bringing a bottle to the NYC GT ?
Crosby
Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'm Spartacus!
_Blackjack
Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 1:10 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'm Spartacus!

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