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Petermarc
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:53 pm: |   |
drinking and smoking? together? outrageous! |
Petermarc
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:51 pm: |   |
kung fu, grasshopper... |
Louched_Liver
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:22 pm: |   |
Heiko, Where ya been man? I was worried about you. |
Chevalier
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 11:35 am: |   |
Petermarc: Absinthe-drinking and pipe-smoking seem to go together, don't they? There are a fair number of paintings, etchings, etc., that combine the two vices. Perhaps they cancel each other out. (Not!) |
Sicboy13
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 11:33 am: |   |
"sicboy13, you have passed the test, time for you to go..." pardon? |
Petermarc
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 10:50 am: |   |
i don't think the pernod people are that interested in history, and use the term to cover poets/artists, etc. of yore and today...
circa 1910 from the book 'lives of the bohemians' (french, about parisian 'bohemians') |
Heiko
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 8:00 am: |   |
Quote:'bohemian'(their description) version, involving carmelizing the sugar 'a la czech'(my decription, they do not mention the czech)...
The German word "böhmisch" translates to "bohemian", but it's only used geographically to denote something or someone from Böhmen (= Bohemia, see map).
The Roma, a gypsy people who came to France during the 15th century, were in posession of a letter of safe conduct from Sigismund, King of Bohemia. Because of this letter signed by the "Roi de Bohème", the French called the gypsies "Bohèmiens". Much later, in the 19th century, "bohèmien" was used to describe the lifestyle of a certain group of artists and poets living in Paris. In German, for this denotation we must use the French word, and we only use it as a noun: "die Bohème" - no adjective (as far as I know). So, I guess Pernod uses "böhmisch" rather than "tschechisch" probably because the word "czech" in combination with absinthe has a bad reputation. However, there is absolutely no, not even the slightest connotation to "Bohème" in the German "böhmisch" (I only noticed this correlation because I looked up the word "böhmisch" in the dictionary to give you the correct translation of it - then I saw it translates to "bohemian", which totally surprised me). Now isn't it frightening that "bohèmien" actually means "czech"? ;) |
Louched_Liver
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 6:28 pm: |   |
Ok. |
Petermarc
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 3:48 pm: |   |
yes, here it is: >For the execution of the classical drinking ritual a Absinth soaked sugar cube on a special spoon must be burned. -www.absinth-shop.com c.2002 translation: babel phish sicboy13, you have passed the test, time for you to go... |
Petermarc
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 3:37 pm: |   |
my understanding was that he was refering to the suggestions of www.absint-shop, itself, and not pernod, specifically... |
Louched_Liver
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 12:18 pm: |   |
Pmarc, I believe Sicboy alluded to same, right there at your feet. And said "screw 'em". |
Admin
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 10:41 am: |   |
I was wondering, thanks Peter! Interesting indeed, those bastards. |
Petermarc
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 7:14 am: |   |
for those of you still wondering about the german pernod 68° hang-tag (ok, no one, but still...) after describing the sugar/spoon/water ritual, pernod marketing goes on to explain the 'bohemian'(their description) version, involving carmelizing the sugar 'a la czech'(my decription, they do not mention the czech)...by giving credibiltiy to this method, pernod has not only severed it's tradional roots, but puts itself into the same camp as it's modern competition, not as a leader, but as a copier and follower, of products that claimed to have copied them...this places more emphasis on their commitment to their ledgers and not their legend, if the product, itself, was not testiment enough...(it is better than virtually all czech brands and most spanish and many german, but, really...) |
Sicboy13
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 11:21 pm: |   |
Nevermind, they want us to burn our sugar. Must be working for the Czechs' |
Sicboy13
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 11:15 pm: |   |
I emailed absint-shop today, got this back "For USA: the price is the same converted with momentary exchange rate. additional shipping and 10% of total (including shipping) for paypal/exchange fees. you can use this link as a currency converter: http://www.xe.net/ucc/ shipping costs depend to the weight. 0-4kg 29 EUR -8kg 36 EUR -12kg 44 EUR -20kg 60 EUR 1 bottle weights 1,2kg (0,7 l) or 1,6kg (1 l), 1 glass 0,3kg. please notice that using a good box (with some padding) that will make the journey without crash may add some weight, mostly about 1-2 kg, a bigger number of bottles will need a harder and heavyer box. Shipping will take about 14 days. translations: if you like you could use the altavista translation service for translating my shop websites: http://babelfish.altavista.com/ copy and paste the following URLs of my shop to the altavista translator: http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/main.htm http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/deutsche_abs..htm http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/franzoesische_abs..htm http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/spanische_abs..htm http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/tschechische_abs..htm http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/zubehoer.htm there were no problems with customs or loss yet." I may try them. Some of the colors in the pictures were quite putrid, blue as Windex. I would like to try the Pernod. |
Giovannigray
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 10:01 pm: |   |
Crowlyman..Do a keyword search for them. I know there were some opinions offered on Ulex a while back, and I also seem to remember something about Mata Hari (an unfavorable impression, I think). |
Crowlyman
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 9:17 pm: |   |
has anyone tried some of the other brands there at http://www.absint-shop.com/shop/?? Absinthe Mata Hari or ULEX Likör Pierre Ordinaire I dont see either on of these in the review section...it says they have high thujone content, but that matters not if they taste like piss or mouthwash. |
Wolfgang
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 2:30 pm: |   |
All we wanna know is who`s bringing a bottle to the NYC GT ? |
Crosby
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 1:11 pm: |   |
I'm Spartacus! |
_Blackjack
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 1:10 pm: |   |
I'm Spartacus! |
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