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Bunnylebowski
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

And through our relentless vengeance, we make the world even wearier.

If only those shopping malls contained the killer robots in CHOPPING MALL....
Marccampbell
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

they always return. Like the zombies returning to the shopping malls in DAWN OF THE DEAD.
Louched_Liver
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 4:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Vera,
Short time, no see.
_Blackjack
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 3:53 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dopamine, man. I'm serious. Throwing a dopaminergic into my cocktail made all the difference. Your limbic system needs some lubrication.

This message brought to you by Dihydroxyphenethylamine: It's nature's way of saying "Yeah, do that!"

(I suppose I should get rid of that "boring ugly hippy shit" line in my profile...)
Admin
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 3:28 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

gawd. sometimes I adore each and every one of you.


not often, mind you. heehee.
Chrysippvs
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 3:28 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"Embrace Your Meat!"

Sounds like one of those old "USA Up All Night" movies or something equally distasteful.

One must not be confused by my rhetoric. I don't have a disdain for life, or the body for that matter. I am very careful to not become a dualist in that respect, which is an obvious weak-point. I enjoy eating, drinking, etc but when it comes to sex or other viceral things a neurological aversion to this (a matter of physiology and not preference).

So when I criticize such things take it with a grain of salt. When I criticize such things I do so with quite a lot of neurological baggage.

- J
Marccampbell
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 3:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

to Blackjack's list of self-loving kindness, may I add:

pick up a copy of THE OPENING OF MISTY BEETHOVEN.
Some Kama Sutra oil.
And musk incense.
_Blackjack
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 3:19 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


Quote:

I wish I didn't have to sleep, eat, and could run 80 mph but I do and I enjoy eating, sleeping, etc.



Considering your reading list, this doesn't altogether surprise me.

I really used to think very much like this. Eventually I gave up because it was too much work. Or maybe I just took Dr. Frank-n-Furter's advice to heart. Or maybe it's just the drugs. BUt I certainly understand a certain...resentment of the meat. The thing is, you're stuck with it, so you may as well use it while you can. I mean, you've got a pretty narrow window between bouts of non-existance during which to eat sushi and have orgasms and sing and sleep late and pet cats and get punched in the face and drive around in a big red convertable. It seems wasteful not to take advantage of it.

Look at me, I'm like Mary Freaking Sunshine over here.

Anyway, I say Embrace Your Meat! Go buy some really soft comfortable sheets. It's a great place to start. You can even pretend that it doesn't count, since you'll mostly be using them when you're unconscious anyway.
Chrysippvs
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 2:47 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Certainly not. I love the world and most things in it, as the world is will and representation, and my will is....positive reinforcement to things.

I have seen enough to be world-weary, but not enough either way for me to think it is anything other than what I make it.

As for the corpse thing, as I often forget how rash that sounds, I would respond that there are some very, very nice looking corpses (to use Epictetu's language via Marcus Aurelius) out there (I hope Ms. Carlton isn't reading this) and many I would love to have wonderful paintings made of and hung all about my house.


- J
Verawench
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

No: The world is weary of us and so we avenge ourselves accordingly.
Alphasoixante
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 2:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

yikes again, chrissy-pie!

you seem to prefer having the void for a purpose than being void of purpose.

"corpse carrying about a soul"? you prefer being corpse all the way through?

you kids (the wench too!) are too young to be so world-weary.
Chrysippvs
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 1:47 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"It's still just a combination of having properly shaped organs and a sense of showmanship..."

I suppose that is why I ultimately dislike vocal music. The viceral quality of human voice is not very appealing to me (I dislike opera and the like as well). Of course this isn't a hard and fast rule, but something very general.

Certainly there is not shame in it, and I don't make some Valentinian duality about the soul being superior to the body, as I do not believe in a soul or spirit of any form. I suppose that the body is a good thing to some, and an impediment to others. I wish I didn't have to sleep, eat, and could run 80 mph but I do and I enjoy eating, sleeping, etc. I just don't care for sexual entertainment etc, I find it boring much like I find watching baseball boorish.

This attitude although most certainly reflects my neurological condition, but I am simply not impressed by such matters.

- J
Louched_Liver
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 1:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well said BJ.
Everyone show up naked on Sat.
_Blackjack
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 1:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I've had plenty of very smart, creative, capable friends who have been professionally naked at one point or another. Considering the income/effort ratio, I can certainly see the appeal. I don't think it's a matter of thinking ones ONLY asset is her looks, so much as understanfing that it is the asset people will pay the most for.

I mean, I don't fix computers because I find it spiritually fulfilling. It just pays a lot better than sitting around being witty.

We need to find a happy medium where we are willing to admit that there is no shame in enjoying the beauty of the human form, nor in enjoying displaying it. How is this any different than enjoying the performance someone gifted with a beautiful voice? It's still just a combination of having properly-shaped organs and a sense of showmanship...
Traineraz
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 1:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

She's definitely something to look at; that body must take some maintenance!

At least she seems to be doing her best to make her money while her looks last. Perhaps she feels that her appearance is her only marketable asset?

. . . but Marilyn Manson? Well, to each her own.
Nolamour
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Kind of like a Greatful Dead show...had to see it to love it...

:-)
Chevalier
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Chrysippvs, I understand that Heather's photos and our descriptions of her don't move you. Her true art is in performance, not in posing for a camera. Both Marc and I have seen her onstage. If you ever do the same, your opinion may change.
Nolamour
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I like the Dita and Aria pics on her site...she is quite attractive, though, I had not heard of her before.

Alternatively, As for her dating Marilyn Manson...she can have him...maybe they can share wardrobes.
Marccampbell
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 12:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

tort,

I haven't jerked off over her photographs.

K Mart is real slavery.
Chrysippvs
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

1. she's beautiful

don't see it.

2. she enjoys performing naked

bah, a corpse carrying about a soul as Epictetus used to say...

3. she's a genuinely sweet person

they don't exist.

4. she's smart

well there is potential. Is she educated? I know plenty of "smart" worthless people. I would take a dimwitted janitor (not saying that janitors are dimwitted) over 99% of the "smart" people that I go to school with.

thats enough for me.

not for me...but I have been accused time and time again of being one step from misogyny in my methods of describing a "beautiful and worthwhile women." People at school call me, with affection, "Herr Schopenhauer"
Chevalier
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

You have to see her in person to be sufficiently moved. Luminous, porcelain skin and ebony black hair. Poetic limbs. A perfect carriage. Petite.
Tortainglese
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I dunno guys...I think it is creepy that a woman makes a living by having men jerk off over their pictures. Personally, I would rather work at Kmart. It is not that I am a prude or ultra feminist against pornography..it is just that I think it is gross, and limiting.
Marccampbell
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

1. she's beautiful

2. she enjoys performing naked

3. she's a genuinely sweet person

4. she's smart

thats enough for me.
Chrysippvs
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Perhaps I am missing something...what is so special about her again to have all these guys foaming at the mouth?

I am unimpressed.
Marccampbell
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 11:46 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dita is currently dating Marilyn Manson.

Dita is a very sweet woman. A little shy. But, when she performs her burlesque routines, she's
extraordinarily charismatic. She works with another exotic dancer, Katherine D'Lish. During their shows at my Vegas club, they did some girl-on-girl stuff that had the audience's collective jaw on the floor. I'm talking extremely sexy and beautiful routines. Classic.

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