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2loucheltrec
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 5:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

uummmm... party at zman's ! let's go everyone!
Crosby
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Does that mean you got it?
Zman7
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

;)
_Blackjack
Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 5:35 am:   Edit PostPrint Post


Quote:

The second post pointed out the (at least to everyone but the hard-of-thinking) obvious fact: with regard to employment or business opportunties, treating people with any special consideration for their race is by definition RACIST.



No, it's racialist. There is a difference, to wit, the existance of a socially-enforced system based on the idea of the superiority of one race.
Head_Prosthesis
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'm sorry Zman. I'm a bad boy. Please forgive me.
Chevalier
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 2:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"D.C.", I was wondering what'd become of you. "Momily"? Ha! But why the new nom de guerre?
Drinky_Crow
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 1:56 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

The first post was to point out that speculating on "Zman"'s financial wherewithal was in poor taste. Dragging in that tired old "there are starving children in China" momily, even by implication, was unseemly. Any decision by any person on how to spend his own money, whether for a coffin, a drink, a dog taco, or a food bank for the Sudan, should not be subject to review by the peanut gallery. The embellishments were added to lampoon the momily. If I hurt the little feelings of the chronically offended, too bad.

The second post pointed out the (at least to everyone but the hard-of-thinking) obvious fact: with regard to employment or business opportunties, treating people with any special consideration for their race is by definition RACIST.

Dr. Ordinaire, kudzus to you for almost getting it. I didn't say anything about the NAACP, and I didn't know a similar organization for "white" people existed but otherwise you heard no more than what was said.

To the lynch mob, spouting racial epithets and putting words into my mouth, if ever I can't think or speak for myself and want to be utterly misconstrued, you're hired. Two bits should cover the lot of you, but since that's not going to happen, I'll spend it on another drink. Cheers!
Head_Prosthesis
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

You guys are funny...
Mogan_David
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post


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I live in a country where you are confronted by the legacy of discrimination every day, and its crystal clear to me that without proactively targeting and supporting previously disadvantaged people, there's no reasonable prospect of righting the wrongs of the past.




And anyone who disagrees with you is a racist bastard?

When does the affirmative action end? Why is it not racist if moderately qualified black applicant is selected over an extremely qualified asian at a prestigious university?

Why is it wrong to judge people on their own merits rather than their race?

You don't right hundreds of years of wrongs by screwing the descendants of those who did the evil deeds. I come from an immigrant family, should I be punished for things done by people who may look like me?

Is this the same logic used by people who would persecute jews for killing Jesus, or are you simply perpetuating a myth that black people are inferior and therefore need special help?

There are ways to help people that don't put others at a disadvantage. Groups that encourage the advancement of any particular race or creed or organization of individuals are fine with me so long as that support doesn't come at the expense of another.

Create mentorship programs that are open to everyone and put them in the areas of greatest need. There is no need to exclude anyone if your intention is to help society.
Marc
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:25 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

"I think he's cute".

Well, fuck you, head. Maybe I'm getting old and square, but I don't find Drinky Crow "cute".
If his racist bullshit is intended to be some kind of cynical punk provocation, you're welcome to it. I haven't become that numb yet.
Lordhobgoblin
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 10:45 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The likes of Drinky Crow think that poverty in the third world (or 'turd' world as he calls it), if it indeed he even accepts that it exists at all ('allegedly hungry' he says) is as a direct result of the laziness and stupidity of these (generally non-white) people. He and his ilk believe that quite simply if people in the third world starve then it is their own stupid fault. Afterall what else can one expect from a load of niggers, pakis and gooks? Third world poverty has absolutely nothing to do with the West. Our 15% of the world's population (the West) is using 80% of the world's resources because we are hard working and the other 85% are lazy dimwits.

His sort believe that the white-man is poorly put upon because some domestic laws prevent him from keeping the niggers in their place.

In the years I've been here I've never before called for anyone to be booted off the forum (even the trolls of the past) but Kallisti this guy needs to be given the boot.
Head_Prosthesis
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 9:44 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I think he's cute.

considering he/she/it has a gender
Marc
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 9:01 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Drinky Crow is a scumbag.

kallisti,

how do creeps get past your screening process?
This prick is clearly a troll.
Oxygenee
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 7:55 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I never thought I'd say it, but I'm with Hob on this one. I also thought Drinky Crow's post was offensive. Theres no double standard, and alleging there is one is at best unthinking. Belonging to a hypothetical NAAWP would absolutely be racist. The moral justification for the NAACP, affirmative action, and similar to put it crudely "pro black" organisations, is the centuries of usually brutal discrimination people of colour have suffered, extending in some cases right to the present day. There's no equivalent white experience at all.

I live in a country where you are confronted by the legacy of discrimination every day, and its crystal clear to me that without proactively targeting and supporting previously disadvantaged people, there's no reasonable prospect of righting the wrongs of the past.
Perruche_Verte
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 7:37 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The difference between the NAACP and the NAAWP (there really is, or was, such an organization, formed by Klansman David Duke):

a. 400+ years, 12 million wasted lives.
b. a Deleuzian control society that encourages a bogus individualism, and thus, resentment toward 'protected' groups.
c. Ignunce.
Dr_Ordinaire
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 7:14 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

"Substitute "White" for "Black" in the above, and he's a racist who probably got what he deserved. Funny how that works."

Methinks Drinky Crow's comment has been misunderstood.

I believe he was referring to the double-standard by which to belong to the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) is OK, while belonging to a hypothetical NAAWP would make you a recist.
Perruche_Verte
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 6:42 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Don't feed the trolls, Hob.

Kind of him to put that Maakies strip in his profile, though.

http://www.columbia.edu/~gd17/maakies58.gif
Lordhobgoblin
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 6:14 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Drinky Crow,

"Thousands of Americans spend more on their coffins than "most" turd world people earn in a year. Most of said allegedly hungry people would put your $75 poodle in a taco and sell it back to you for 7.5 cents with no remorse whatsoever."

You're a sick prejudiced slug. You no doubt think that all those living in poverty in third the world do so because they are lazy bastards who get what they deserve. You no doubt are a very hard working individual who deserves everything he gets.

"Substitute "White" for "Black" in the above, and he's a racist who probably got what he deserved. Funny how that works."

Your implication that this (black) victim had it coming is disgusting.

Go and wear your white hood somewhere else.
Drinky_Crow
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 11:09 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


Quote:

I read a profile of one of the recent victims, who seemed like a rather decent fellow - chairman of an organization that promoted Black-owned businesses and Black self-help. Apparently chosen at random, like the rest.




Substitute "White" for "Black" in the above, and he's a racist who probably got what he deserved. Funny how that works.
Drinky_Crow
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 10:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thousands of Americans spend more on their coffins than "most" turd world people earn in a year.

Most of said allegedly hungry people would put your $75 poodle in a taco and sell it back to you for 7.5 cents with no remorse whatsoever. And they don't drink absinthe.

And I'd rather have a $1600 drink than a $1600 coffin.

So as you can see, all is actually right with the world.
Bob_Chong
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 9:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

At fifty bucks per drink, make sure you post a review.

I would congratulate you on your purchase, but I believe congratulations are more in order to your being in a state of financial well-being that would allow you to spend more on a bottle of booze than most people in the world earn in a year.

If you're ever in my area, please let me know. I serve up a mean $75 taco.
Head_Prosthesis
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 7:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

We have a crisis people...
The little Z's
are hungry and they need food. Please look
into your hearts and open up your wallets
and give generously to:

The Z-Fam Relief Fund
PO 999
Ypsitucky, MI 48197


"It's a poor soul
that can't fill the hole"
Zman7
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 6:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

$1.63 per ML, what the fuck is going on here?
Perruche_Verte
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I just wanted to say congrats Zman, and when's the party?
2loucheltrec
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 6:40 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

a good friend of mine lives just a mere two blocks from the attack in manasas, she also works near (within a mile or two) the pentagon but she called in sick on 9-11 (her luck is still holding out)... you wouldn't believe how many white vans with ladder racks there are around here... though i don't live in the areas of any of the attacks i live in the corridor between the dc metro area and the fredericksburg area and have many friends and family that could have been victims (lucky so far)... my thoughts go out to the families of the victims... be safe blackjack and others that live around here too.

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