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Alphasoixante
Posted on Monday, December 2, 2002 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"The damnably frustrating thing about Nietzsche is that he can make so much sense one minute, only to start ranting incoherently the next."

show me one passage where he rants incoherently. Ranting, yes. Often mistaken, yes. Incoherent? No more than anyone else. (Wait! Zarathustra doesn't count. it's liter-rayrey.)
_Blackjack
Posted on Monday, December 2, 2002 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


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there is no more german empire, you might have noticed. the members of that very successful bunch became very paranoid about a certain cultural and religious group, things got out of hand and, well, you know the story.



You're getting ahead of yourself. The German Empire fell because of WWI, whose cause is indeed very elegantly predicted by Weird Unlce Fred. If you get a bunch of well-armed nations who attempt to maintain peace indimidating one another, it only takes one whacko tossing a bomb at somebody's cousin in a backwater capital to set the whole thing off.

The damnably frustrating thing about Nietzsche is that he can make so much sense one minute, only to start ranting incoherently the next.
Alphasoixante
Posted on Sunday, December 1, 2002 - 8:17 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

"And perhaps the great day will come when a people, distinguished by wars and victories and by the highest development of a military order and intelligence, and accustomed to make the heaviest sacrifices for these things will exclaim of its own free will, 'We break the sword,' and will smash its entire military establishment down to its lowest foundations. RENDERING ONESELF UNARMED WHEN ONE HAS BEEN THE BEST-ARMED, out of a height of feeling--that is the means to real peace, which must always rest on a peace of mind; whereas the so-called armed peace, as now exists in all countries, is the absence of peace of mind. One trusts neither oneself nor one's neighbor and, half from hatred, half from fear, does not lay down arms. RATHER PERISH THAN HATE AND FEAR, AND TWICE RATHER PERISH THAN MAKE ONESELF HATED AND FEARED--this must some day become the highest maxim for every single commonwealth, too."

--Friedrich Nietzsche, 1880.

Fun fact: written during height of german empire, by a member of the winning team. they didn't follow his advice. there is no more german empire, you might have noticed. the members of that very successful bunch became very paranoid about a certain cultural and religious group, things got out of hand and, well, you know the story.

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