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Chevalier
Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 4:42 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Is it my imagination, or is the light getting brighter around here? Could it be because Blackjack and Artemis have been posting again?

Thank you, Blackjack, for correcting me and educating us all. I know this may sound strange, but I really appreciate it. The best thing about this forum is what it teaches.
Head_Prosthesis
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thong Thong Thong thong thong ...
Traineraz
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:14 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dip Thong?

thong
_Blackjack
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 6:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


Quote:

Properly written, the "ae" are connected like Siamese twins; the freaky result is called a dipthong.



The ligature "æ" is called an "ash" or "æsc" and was considered a seperate vowel in romanized Anglo-Saxon. A "diphthong" is more precisely two vowel sounds which combine into a single syllable, such as the the sound in the words "eye" or "bite". You can distinguish diphthongs if you try to sing them or say them very slowly. You'll notice "bite" becomes "baaaaaaah-it". (Unless you are from Alabama, in which case it's a monophthong...)

The "æ" did not represent an diphthong in Anglo-Saxon (it sounded something like the modern American short-a). In words like "pædophile" and "encyclopædia", it is used to romanize the Greek "ai". In Ancient Greek, "ai" was likely pronounced as a diphthong (like "eye", in fact), as likewise was "ae" in Latin, but it became a monophthong in Modern Greek, and in Late and Church Latin.
Louched_Liver
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 1:49 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thought so!
Chevalier
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 1:47 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

;-)
Louched_Liver
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 1:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Chevy,
You just wanted to say "simple simon".
Chevalier
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:16 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

It's simple, Simon. Take the pics with an ordinary camera, develop them, and bring them to an Internet café. Ask the café to scan them for you; it won't cost much. Post the scanned photos as attachments on this forum.
Simon
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 6:29 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Oxygenee,
Couldn't help noticing my name mentioned. Will try and scan those pics. I'm just a useless idiot when it comes to getting pictures from a photo turned into attachments. Believe me, they do exist.
Simon (simonsuisse)
Timk
Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 4:43 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well, I have come across two miniatures of Pernod Tarragona for about fifty each, I suppose sometimes you just get lucky :P - see profile picture for the one I still have.
Beckbjj
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 8:45 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Just butting in here, as I've been reading this thread but am not knowledgeable about such things (unfortunately!!!), I just wanted to mention that Jabi clearly learned one thing in the exchange. Vortex mentioned to him that the color of the liquid (whatever it is, Palmolive dishwashing liquid perhaps) was wrong, and I noticed that the description on the item in his most recent transaction says (and I quote): "THE CONTENTS IS BEARING THE TYPICAL BROWN COLOUR" which I suppose is to differentiate it from the dish soap green color of the other stuff (although I would bet the bottle really still has the dish soap in it).

Becky
Traineraz
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 5:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

. . . and a "pedophile" is something you use to remove unwanted calluses from the feet.
Chevalier
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 3:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Look and love, Head:

http://www.tiro.com/special.html
Chevalier
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 3:28 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

It's an older, somewhat musty way to spell "pedophile". Properly written, the "ae" are connected like Siamese twins; the freaky result is called a dipthong.

Years ago, "encyclopedia" was spelled "encyclopaedia". Even today, the dipthong lingers here and there: we still write it in the word "archaeology", for example.
Head_Prosthesis
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 2:49 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Would someone tell me
what the hell a
"paedophile" is?
Traineraz
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 2:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Oh, the intrigue!!

Cloak, dagger, and absinthe . . .
Chevalier
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 1:56 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well, blow me down.

It seems that the latest four(!) negative feedbacks on Jabi2's eBay record were left by "northernlightsllc", who is none other than ... drumroll, please ... OPTIMALSMARTS.

http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=jabi2

Hmmm ... are two threads merging here?
Vortex
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 1:44 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Part of the reason I have been lucky is because I have taken risks and fortunately for me most have been authentic. The ones I mentioned that I got for good deals were Tarragona. It's not like I have gotten tons of great deals but I have gotten 3 bottles and 2 that are coming for great deals.
Chevalier
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 1:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

(BTW, wasn't "Margaret Hamilton" the name of the actress who played the Wicked Witch of the West in THE WIZARD OF OZ?)
Vortex
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 1:30 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Oxygenee: I mentioned what the comments by margarethamilton6264 false. She is not a real person. In fact she lives in the UK and I live in Canada, so my penis would have to be incredibly big to reach the UK. btw margarethamilton6264 is no longer an ebay member (gee, I wonder why).

BTW the word about Jabi is spreading:
http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=jabi2
Chevalier
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 6:49 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Oxy, it's possible that the vintage Pernod absinthes which Vortex referred to are all Tarragona Pernods, rather than pre-1915 French. Even so, I find it eyebrow-raising that he he's had so much "luck" with them.
Oxygenee
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 6:05 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'll go one step further than Chevalier: I simply don't believe you Vortex, just as I didn't believe Simonsuisse. Neither I nor any of the specialists I know - some of whom post on this board, and several of whom are full time absinthe dealers in France, are able to consistently buy sealed pre 1915 bottles of Pernod at $300 -$400. The going rate is $600 - $1000 for perfect unlabelled bottles, or $1400 - $2000+ with labels. Either your mysterious source of supply is imaginary, or you are being sold fakes similar to the bottle you just bought from Jabi.

If you lack the elementary knowledge to recognise a glaringly obvious 1930's anis bottle like the one you bought on eBay, why should we give your claims of familiarity with pre 1915 Pernod any credence?

I'm also curious why, despite you having been invited to do so, you STILL don't deny the allegations made by margarethamilton6264?
Chevalier
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 5:36 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

That said, I'm somewhat suspicious of your past luck in finding vintage absinthe, Vortex. This forum has seen other members ("Simonsuisse" comes to mind) make the same claims about vintage Pernod, with absolutely no proof to back them up: no photos of bottles or their contents, ever. Simonsuisse did "describe" the label of an allegedly full Pernod Fils "export" bottle of his, and that description was full of factual errors. (Ted, do you recall this?)

I'm just saying that your experience with Jabi2 would be much more fathomable (and worthy of sympathy, perhaps?) if you were a novice who didn't know how much vintage Pernod is worth on the eBay market. There's nothing wrong with being a novice. However, when a person with the experience that you claim to have, acts as gullibly as you did, well ... that just calls your credibility into question.

When all's said and done, though, you're "innocent until proven guilty". What happened to you was a shame and the ethical wrongdoing was Jabi2's, not yours. Better luck in the future!
Chevalier
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 4:53 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

There's no excuse for what Jabi2 did, and I don't see why Vortex should share in the blame. "Caveat emptor" is always good advice, but neglecting it does NOT mitigate the crime of dishonest selling.

It's the scammers -- not their victims -- who are unethical. Gullibility attracts deception; even so, it doesn't "deserve" to be deceived.
Head_Prosthesis
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 6:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I can fix it!!! I SWEAR!!!!!

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