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Pastor of Muppets (Emmy)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Emmy
Post Number: 193
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:57 pm: |   |
i had a thing for twin brothers once... well, one of them... funny thing is i ended up having a threesome with the other and his girlfriend. that was a bit strange. and fun :D |
Barsnake (Barsnake)
le Duc
Username: Barsnake
Post Number: 193
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:44 pm: | |
way to go, head - I'd bid on the clown sheet!
and the beat goes on... |
Mr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3546
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 8:46 pm: | |
Icky,
I do sometimes wonder what it
would be like to have a
cock and balls.
I think that clown sheet would fetch
quite a price on Ebay.
GO LIVE !!! |
Mr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3545
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 8:43 pm: | |
And I was all like...
HEY HONEY!
CHECK THIS OUT!!!
GO LIVE !!! |
Mrs. Head (Admin)
Madame Guillotine
Username: Admin
Post Number: 1099
Registered: 1-1998
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 8:42 pm: | |
And as for the gay incest taboo.
Picture if you will:
Sucking your brother's cock.
K. Nuf said.
However, I did just see some gay porn the other day of twin brother's sucking eachother's cocks.
*shrug*
“A lady who has a secure seat is never prettier than when in the saddle, and she who cannot make her conquest there, may despair of the power of her charms elsewhere.” - THE MANNERS THAT WIN, 1880
http://www.feeverte.net |
Mrs. Head (Admin)
Madame Guillotine
Username: Admin
Post Number: 1098
Registered: 1-1998
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 8:37 pm: | |
You guys sure do know how to justify. Sheesh.
I dunno, my incest reflex definately extends to parties other than myself, or scenarios imagined with others than myself in them.
FOR INSTANCE.
The unexpurgated diaries of Anais Nin. "INCEST" deals specifically with a long, drawn out love affair she had in her mid thirties with her father.
I'm sorry. CREEPY. And I love her. But it sure gave me the uber willies.
“A lady who has a secure seat is never prettier than when in the saddle, and she who cannot make her conquest there, may despair of the power of her charms elsewhere.” - THE MANNERS THAT WIN, 1880
http://www.feeverte.net |
Foamy D Psycho (Mr_rabid)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Mr_rabid
Post Number: 464
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 8:31 pm: | |
Gay incest shouldn't be, from a strictly practical point of view, taboo.
No kids in crash helmets. And that's what the incest taboo is really all about, yes?
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Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Chevalier
Post Number: 1274
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:47 am: | |
"The incestuous lineage of the Moabites and Ammonites was used as a justification for conquoering their lands ..."
"... twins selling beer was hot, [although] the concept was incestuous ..."
Can we use this as justification for stealing their beer? |
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: _blackjack_
Post Number: 1040
Registered: 11-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:07 am: | |
quote:Bollocks to gay politics.
It would be lovely if that were possible, if fucking could be a totally non-political activity, but as long as those in power insist upon imposing their sexual morality upon the people through political means, then sex is going to be politicized. Not that I think that those who try to create rigid definitions of their own sexual preference (or race, or culture, etc.) are doing themselves much good, but they are only reacting to the prevailing culture's insistance that they do so.
I mean, do you think Matthew Shepherd would have avoided being beaten to death had he just tried to explain the spectrum of human sexuality? |
Mrs. Head (Admin)
Madame Guillotine
Username: Admin
Post Number: 1095
Registered: 1-1998
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:04 am: | |
I agree with you Hobby, I'm just sayin' that the question was addressing a real world scenario, not one as it ought to be.
Straight men will often receive the same stigma if they get caught gargling nads in certain social groups. Not where I live, of course... nad gargling is a passport to popularity here  , as it should be.
Oh boy, a bunch of straight people arguing gay politics again. I was trying to avoid that.
Half my family is gay though, I have special permissions.
“A lady who has a secure seat is never prettier than when in the saddle, and she who cannot make her conquest there, may despair of the power of her charms elsewhere.” - THE MANNERS THAT WIN, 1880
http://www.feeverte.net |
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: _blackjack_
Post Number: 1039
Registered: 11-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:59 am: | |
The incestuous lineage of the Moabites and Ammonites was used as a justification for conquoering their lands, just as Ham's implied incest with Noah was used as a justification for the disposession of the Canaanites. |
Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Chevalier
Post Number: 1269
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:28 am: | |
God: the ultimate voyeur? |
The Red Pigeon (Icarus)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Icarus
Post Number: 423
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:24 am: | |
God didn't seem to mind much!
He liked to watch...
Escapee from the drunk tank |
Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Chevalier
Post Number: 1268
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:20 am: | |
There are exceptions to EVERY rule.
Lot's daughters got him wasted, then twice jumped his bones.
God didn't seem to mind much, though we really can't be sure if He watched.
Genesis 19: 30-28
"Now Lot went up out of Zo'ar, and dwelt in the hills with his two daughters, for he was afraid to dwell in Zo'ar; so he dwelt in a cave with his two daughters.
And the first-born said to the younger, 'Our father is old, and there is not a man on earth to come in to us after the manner of all the earth.
Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve offspring through our father.'
So they made their father drink wine that night; and the first-born went in, and lay with her father; he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.
And on the next day, the first-born said to the younger, 'Behold, I lay last night with my father; let us make him drink wine tonight also; then you go in and lie with him, that we may preserve offspring through our father.'
So they made their father drink wine that night also; and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.
Thus both the daughters of Lot were with child by their father. The first-born bore a son, and called his name Moab; he is the father of the Moabites to this day. The younger also bore a son, and called his name Ben-ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites to this."
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The Red Pigeon (Icarus)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Icarus
Post Number: 422
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:19 am: | |
"Hey man!!! That's your business!!! I did
NOT need to hear THAT!!!"
So... when you watch these films, with a man on woman. Do you fantacize about being the owner of the cock-n-ballz, the receiver of the cock-n-ballz, or the voyeur?
 You'll probably respond... I like to be the clown sheet.
Escapee from the drunk tank |
Lordhobgoblin (Lordhobgoblin)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Lordhobgoblin
Post Number: 785
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 8:48 am: | |
"The coors thing: that is the point of the article. with all our well built in incest taboos, why does this scenario completely bypass that reflex?"
I believe its because our own personal incest taboos only apply to members of our own family. The truth is that if 2 adult siblings from outside our own family slept with each other people wouldn't really care. Naturally people would say otherwise if asked about this because they feel they will be looked upon as being a bit suspect of incest themselves if they don't. But if such images are presented to people on a plate through adverts then the message given out says "You don't have to pretend you're offended by this" then people will not be afraid to admit that they're not. |
Lordhobgoblin (Lordhobgoblin)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Lordhobgoblin
Post Number: 784
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 8:37 am: | |
"it's all well and good for us to say everyone is a little bit gay or a little bit straight, but for the folks involved this can be a very political issue,..."
Bollocks to gay politics. Groups like that are a bunch of sexual facists who refuse to accept the reality of human sexuality because it doesn't fit with their political objectives. 'Gay' or 'straight', we're not really all that different. Human sexuality is the way it is regardless of politics. Human sexuality is a far stronger force than politics.
Certain lesbian 'communities' may have rigid views on what constitutes politically correct sexual behaviour for a lesbian but that does not alter the reality of human sexuality. A person's sexuality is a person's sexuality. You are what you are regardless of what any political pressure group or community says you should be. If I was a lesbian I'd tell such communities to fuck off and mind their own business.
Victorian society had rigid views on gay women, they believed they didn't exist. Did that mean that all women were straight in Victorian times? That lesbians didn't exist? The Victorians were wrong in their view on human sexuality and so are lesbian communities like the one your friend belonged to. |
Mr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3542
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 5:42 pm: | |
The Big Man used to say,
"Two naked guys in the same room.
That's GAY!"
To that rational I'd respond,
"Then the majority of pornographic
films that you watch are gay films and
when you're watching a naked guy,
Isn't that kind'a gay in itself?"
"I don't look at the balls!" he'd say.
"Hmmm? Well I somehow manage to see them.
I can't help it when they're hanging down
in the shot. What's that make me?"
"Hey man!!! That's your business!!! I did
NOT need to hear THAT!!!" |
Mrs. Head (Admin)
Madame Guillotine
Username: Admin
Post Number: 1094
Registered: 1-1998
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 3:11 pm: | |
it's all well and good for us to say everyone is a little bit gay or a little bit straight, but for the folks involved this can be a very political issue, and I thought that is what the question addressed.
for instance, the lesbian community my friend belonged to had VERY rigid opinions on what constitutes a lesbian, and my friend was no longer welcome in their group, even though she still considered herself a lesbian (I'm assuming).
She may feel different now, it's been a couple years. Personally, I would have a "fuck those cranky ass lesbians" opinion. "Queer" is a bit more of an inclusive term, I think someone can be queer no matter whom you happen to be batting for, as it conotates a political stance (here in SF anyways) as well whom you happen to be pokin' at the moment.
The coors thing: that is the point of the article. with all our well built in incest taboos, why does this scenario completely bypass that reflex? I don't think the author has the right tools in the toolbox to answer this, but it was an interesting question.
“A lady who has a secure seat is never prettier than when in the saddle, and she who cannot make her conquest there, may despair of the power of her charms elsewhere.” - THE MANNERS THAT WIN, 1880
http://www.feeverte.net |
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: _blackjack_
Post Number: 1037
Registered: 11-2000
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 2:25 pm: | |
It's only incest if the twins have sex with each OTHER. If they are both having sex with the same guy, but never touch, it's OK. Or something.
(I mean, there were occasions, in my youth, where I...shared a girl with another guy. As long as I never touched the other guy, I'm still straight, right? Right?)
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Lordhobgoblin (Lordhobgoblin)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Lordhobgoblin
Post Number: 783
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 12:47 pm: | |
As for the blokes getting angry when the incest thing about the Coors beer add is pointed out to them? Well it's only natural that they would. I mean if someone implied that I should feel guilty about something I'm not guilty of I'd get angry with them. If 2 sisters want to act like lesbians lovers then that's their choice, their decision and their responsibility. Why should the blokes feel guilty about that? If women choose to put themselves up as some sort of erotic fantasy figures then what do they expect but to be fantasised about? If I had a chance to dive into a 3-some with those 2 sisters (I suppose I can dream) I wouldn't hesitate for one moment. Afterall they're not my sisters, it'd be them committing incest and not me, I'd be totally in the clear. |
Foamy D Psycho (Mr_rabid)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Mr_rabid
Post Number: 463
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 12:20 pm: | |
She's just had her job sent to India as of today... which is good, because she's getting severance and the next round of layoffs probably wont.
Former lesbian doesn't make sense... I think Hobby's got it right.
Human sexuality is a very brain-based thing. You got guys out there having sex with DOLPHINS for the love of mike. That is way more of a stretch than batting for the other team for awhile.
Two girls having sex is like this for guys: Naked women are good to look at. Naked women in an obviously sexual context are even better. And for most of us, naked men, especially in a sexual context, don't exactly add anything to the picture, as it were.
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Lordhobgoblin (Lordhobgoblin)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Lordhobgoblin
Post Number: 782
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 11:34 am: | |
The fact is that there's no such thing as a 100% lesbian. Nobody is 100% gay or 100% straight, everybody is bisexual. Everybody is somewhere on the continuum of straight to gay, every straight person is at least a tiny bit gay and every gay person is at least a tiny bit straight. |
Mrs. Head (Admin)
Madame Guillotine
Username: Admin
Post Number: 1092
Registered: 1-1998
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 9:52 am: | |
Hang on, I will ask my super friendly lesbian-that-was friend what she thinks.
be right back!
“A lady who has a secure seat is never prettier than when in the saddle, and she who cannot make her conquest there, may despair of the power of her charms elsewhere.” - THE MANNERS THAT WIN, 1880
http://www.feeverte.net |
Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Chevalier
Post Number: 1266
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 8:00 am: | |
I'm not sure if my earlier question really got answered, so I'll alter it a bit.
In your opinion ...
If a lesbian is now dating/having sex with a man (and not dating/having sex with another woman), can she still be considered a lesbian? Or is the term "former lesbian" more appropriate?
Missus H and company, what do you think?
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