Topics Topics Edit Profile Profile Help/Instructions Help Member List Member List Edit Profile Register  
Search Last 1|3|7 Days Search Search Tree View Tree View  

Archive through July 9, 2003

Sepulchritude Forum » The Absinthe Forum » Strictly Absinthe & Collectibles » Vintage weekend » Archive through July 9, 2003 « Previous Next »

Author Message
Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Chevalier

Post Number: 1338
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

As I recall, Simon recently graduated from an art academy in London.

I'm glad that he (finally) got hold of a digital camera ... he really knows how to use it well.
T. A. Breaux (Tabreaux)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Tabreaux

Post Number: 104
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 2:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'll have to read through that one...
21st Century Rimbaud (Rimbaud)
le Duc
Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 135
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 2:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Good to know you're still here now & then, Ted. Hope all is well with you...
Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Chevalier

Post Number: 1337
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Perhaps you've already noticed the "Jaded!!!" subtopic, Ted.
21st Century Rimbaud (Rimbaud)
le Duc
Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 134
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 2:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Marc & Ted! Now I know.
T. A. Breaux (Tabreaux)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Tabreaux

Post Number: 103
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 2:00 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have a little bit of time at the present, so I'll try to hang around just for a bit.

BTW Simon, those are very nice images.
Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Chevalier

Post Number: 1336
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 1:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi, Ted! We were just talking about you a few days ago ...
T. A. Breaux (Tabreaux)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Tabreaux

Post Number: 102
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 1:54 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

They do look very similar, but there are differences:

The pre-ban Pernod Fils bottles have a 'blob seal', not a molded seal.

The pre-ban bottles have a Swiss cross in the red shield, not "Pernod"

"Pernod S.A. Tarragona" is usually indicated in fine print at the bottom of the label.
Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Chevalier

Post Number: 1335
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 1:54 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Not exactly. Look again at the photo: The red oval beneath the hat contains the word "Pernod" printed in white. (Pernod pastis has this too.)

Pontarlier Pernod, on the other hand, had a white Swiss cross printed within the red oval.
21st Century Rimbaud (Rimbaud)
le Duc
Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 133
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 1:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Where on the bottle on the left does it say Tarragona? Just wondering, because it looks exactly like a regular old Pernod Fils bottle to me....
Mighty Fine Young Man (Lediablevert)
le Vicomte
Username: Lediablevert

Post Number: 54
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 - 12:36 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

Actually, IMHO, Deva has a pretty decent louche. It is La Fee which has the patented, very artificial "pea-soup" louche.




I'd have to agree with Rimbaud there. Deva has a nice, pale green, almost opalescant louche, that is actually quite dramatic to watch when you add water. La Fee louches to a darker green, and it seems like there is a little bit of crud buzzing around in the water when you pour fast, even enough so to leave a darker tinge around the absinthe at the top of your glass. I think that artificial coloring and using way too much star in your absinthe leads to that pea soup like louche texture. But gee, even Tarragona's Pernod Fil louche is just beautiful.
>-I AM TROLLING FOR WALLEYE*>
21st Century Rimbaud (Rimbaud)
le Duc
Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 131
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 - 8:10 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Actually, IMHO, Deva has a pretty decent louche. It is La Fee which has the patented, very artificial "pea-soup" louche.
Moonman's friend (Wolfgang)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Wolfgang

Post Number: 987
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 - 8:05 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

If Bedel`s pontarlier recipe is close to vintage Pernod, we can clearly see that the big amonth of anethol doesn`t come from a massive use of anis. Yes there`s anis but there`s also the right kind of fennel seeds (which provided lot`s of anethol and less of the other less interesting compounds...) ...
Bescanšon (Bescanšon)
Paysan
Username: Bescanšon

Post Number: 1
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 - 7:44 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

This is another example of louched Taragonna. Far milkier than Emile. Taragonna will louche at less than 2:1, whereas Emile requires 3:1 or more of very cold water.
Anethole!

Aion (Aion)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Aion

Post Number: 174
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 - 6:49 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

>The louche of both these absinthes can be compared to un emile in density.

1.)
My eyes tell me something different.
Maybe the louche is not as strong as it
appears on the picture, but there is at least
enough louche to change the color from green
to almost white. Un Emile does not change
the color that way, albeit the color of the
neat Un Emile is considerably paler.

2.)
Vintage Pernod had about 75% more anethole
than Un Emile, and to make it short,
anethole = louche

3.)
That does no way mean P.F. had an ugly
pea-soup louche like Deva, etc.

simon pedersen (Simon)
Mousquetaire
Username: Simon

Post Number: 44
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 - 6:22 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The louche of both these absinthes can be compared to un emile in density.
simon pedersen (Simon)
Mousquetaire
Username: Simon

Post Number: 43
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 - 6:19 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yes both bottles are Tarragonas. The bottle on the left is a 1960's Pernod fils Tarragona and the bottle on the right is a 1940/50's E.pernod Tarragona veritas. Both absinthes where made at the same distillery (Jose M Banus) But the later ceased production in the 50's. The veritas is a rarer and nicer absinthe than the P.F Tarragona(That's in my oppinion)
Mighty Fine Young Man (Lediablevert)
le Vicomte
Username: Lediablevert

Post Number: 52
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Monday, July 7, 2003 - 7:44 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Both bottles are tarragonas.
>-I AM TROLLING FOR WALLEYE*>
Z (Zman7)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Zman7

Post Number: 326
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Monday, July 7, 2003 - 6:54 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

The picture on the left is a Pernod Fils Tarragona.
Imperial Order of Absinthe
Moonman's friend (Wolfgang)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Wolfgang

Post Number: 986
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Monday, July 7, 2003 - 6:10 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

You say that the pictures doesn`t show the louche as it is... Was the louche comparable to Emile 68 ? To Emile blanche maybe ?
21st Century Rimbaud (Rimbaud)
le Duc
Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 129
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Monday, July 7, 2003 - 8:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

But isn't the bottle on the left a Pontarlier?
simon pedersen (Simon)
Mousquetaire
Username: Simon

Post Number: 42
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, July 7, 2003 - 3:32 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

This one looks even more bright!! It adds to the illusion that some think P.F Tarragona has a thick louche ( The contents where actually amber with a milder louche)
simon pedersen (Simon)
Mousquetaire
Username: Simon

Post Number: 41
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, July 7, 2003 - 3:28 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Tarragona pernod fils from around 1960. Although it isn't the freshest bottle i've had. Must say that it does look a lot more bright than in actuality (Must have been the flash on the camera)
Aion (Aion)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Aion

Post Number: 170
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, July 7, 2003 - 2:53 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Any idea when this absinthe was made?
The colour looks very fresh imho.
simon pedersen (Simon)
Mousquetaire
Username: Simon

Post Number: 40
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, July 7, 2003 - 1:35 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I decided to open a couple of my old Spanish Tarragona bottles this weekend for a taster as it's been a long time since i've drunk any! Took these pics and thought i'd share them.....

Administration Administration Log Out Log Out   Previous Page Previous Page Next Page Next Page