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Zouave (Giovannigray)
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Username: Giovannigray

Post Number: 195
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Saturday, August 2, 2003 - 11:29 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks, Spoon.. It sounds like I might enjoy a taste of it for curiosity's sake, but I think I'll pass on buying a bottle. (I have too many sitting "dormant" already.)
Spoon Boy (Absinthespoon)
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Post Number: 340
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Saturday, August 2, 2003 - 7:42 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I think the Montania is drinkable, for something different. It really does taste just like Ricard with something extra. I think Head gave it 3 out of 5 on the Serp-o-meter. I don't think I would buy it again, but I'm not sorry I tried it.
Zouave (Giovannigray)
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Username: Giovannigray

Post Number: 194
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, August 1, 2003 - 11:42 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

What's your opinion of the Montan-ya, Spoon? Worth a try? Or does it taste like -uh - anus?
Spoon Boy (Absinthespoon)
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Post Number: 339
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Friday, August 1, 2003 - 10:19 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

The "des Alpes" stuff does contain sugar, at least it is listed in the ingredients. As noted before, it tastes a lot like Ricard + wormwood.

When I first saw the name "Montania" I thought it was just an alternate spelling of Montaņa (note the accent) because that's how that is pronounced.

A Mexican-American friend of mine always laughs when he sees the sign at Aņo Nuevo that says "Ano Nuevo" (new anus instead of new year).
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
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Username: Lediablevert

Post Number: 199
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

alps

I was thinking that maybe
it was this, which is made by Havel's (gag).
But maybe it is,
maybe Montania is just
a Havel's sister company?
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pierre verte (Petermarc)
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Username: Petermarc

Post Number: 472
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

>The mystery is solved. Although the distillery's name is "Montania", the absinthe itself (judging by its label) is named ABSINTHE DES ALPES. I've seen that name crop up before. Have you, Peter?

yes, but not in this case...can't find anything about the distillery,nor have i ever seen a bottle on a shelf, yet the belgian site says it's one of the biggest in france...

FYI to be labeled 'liqueur'(as opposed to spiritueux, amer, etc.) in france the product must contain sugar...
Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
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Username: Chevalier

Post Number: 1394
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 2:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

You mean "La Blecch"?
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 1:32 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Marc,
I think they make that really
bad "La Bleue" that comes in the flask
shaped bottle.
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Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
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Post Number: 1392
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 8:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The mystery is solved. Although the distillery's name is "Montania", the absinthe itself (judging by its label) is named ABSINTHE DES ALPES. I've seen that name crop up before. Have you, Peter?
The Levitating Grin Salesman (Rimbaud)
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Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 222
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 8:17 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Petermarc,

Here is the link to the page where I read about Montania: http://www.absinthe.lu/FR/montania.htm
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The Levitating Grin Salesman (Rimbaud)
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Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 220
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 6:48 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

>"...that it really didn't taste anything like the modern variety of the brand, and that the recipe had obviously changed a bit, most like other reproductions of vintage absinthes."

The only difference being that Montana, as far as I am aware, never stopped producing absinthe. Therefore, it is not a reproduction. Then again, who has actually commercially "reproduced" a vintage, pre-ban absinthe? No one. This will certainly change when (or, dare I say, if) Jade hits the market.
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Bob (I_b_puffin)
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Post Number: 179
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 6:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

...in the earlier days and the doses of Thujon (up to 15 times stronger than today)...

...the Spaniards posess nowadays the tradition and the know-how. For this reason most of the Absinthe now comes from Spain. It is produced according to old recipes...




How informative.
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
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Username: Lediablevert

Post Number: 183
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 12:58 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I remember reading something somewhere on year a few months back that included some vintage Montana taste notes, or at least eluded to the idea that the poster had tasted it. I can't remember who it was, but he was saying that it really didn't taste anything like the modern variety of the brand, and that the recipe had obviously changed a bit, most like other reproductions of vintage absinthes.
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The Levitating Grin Salesman (Rimbaud)
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Post Number: 219
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 8:06 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Have you had any vintage Montana? Has anyone here?
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Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
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Post Number: 178
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 1:18 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Rimbaud, vintage Montana was pretty good, though.
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pierre verte (Petermarc)
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Username: Petermarc

Post Number: 471
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 8:38 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

>Le 1924 & Les Fleurs du Mal

these are the same product, by the same maker, both 55°, but 1924 (the date the girard distillery was founded) was created for supermarkets and is cheaper...they are not very interesting

i have never seen or heard of 'montania' in france
The Levitating Grin Salesman (Rimbaud)
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Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 218
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 6:23 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

But Montania is a current brand. Why would anyone want to rip off Montana? It's not regarded as a very good absinthe these days.
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Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 5:14 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

The substance Thujon affects each body in a different way. It is also so with tea or cofee, there are those who drink them in large amounts and others who need just a glass.  In general like with alcohol it is a matter of getting used to Thujon.  Some can handle quite a lot and others not so much.  Enjoy Absinthe in different quantities and find out which is best for you. The amount that others can handle should be irrelevant to you.  
Do not drink Absinthe and drive regardless of how small the amount you have consumed. In a similar way to alcohol, Thujon also reduces your ability to drive. 

Do not heat or burn Absinthe. By doing this the effect of the Thujon is intensified




Oooops!
Some dangerous misinformation there!
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Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
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Post Number: 171
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 2:50 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Montania, like Pernottt and such instead of Pernod, sounds like a Montana absinthe ripoff. Vintage Montana was a really awesome spanish absinthe, and I could see why a ripoff wouldn't be all too uncommon.
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The Levitating Grin Salesman (Rimbaud)
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Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 217
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 2:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

They also mention some contemporary French absinthes I've never heard of: Montania (NOT Montana from Spain), Le 1924 & Les Fleurs du Mal (see under Producteurs on French page). Anyone heard of these brands?
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The Levitating Grin Salesman (Rimbaud)
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Post Number: 216
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 2:27 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

http://www.absinthe.lu/
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Bob (I_b_puffin)
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Post Number: 178
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 2:19 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Could you post the URL?
The Levitating Grin Salesman (Rimbaud)
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Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 215
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 1:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I don't know if anyone is interested, but I recently found some information regarding the famous (beacuse of it's beautiful Art Nouveau advertising poster) Absinthe Robette. I found a Belgian absinthe website which claims that Robette was indeed a Belgian label of absinthe, but was actually manufactured in France and shipped to Belgium to be bottled. Apparently the same goes for Absinthe Berhelot (another famous advertising poster). I wonder if these absinthes were just another French brand marketed in Belgium under a different name, or if they were their own entity and just made in France for some reason. Any ideas?
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