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Lordhobgoblin (Lordhobgoblin)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Lordhobgoblin
Post Number: 819
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 2:23 am: |   |
"Coalition the willing"? More like "Coalition of the coerced". Sign up or we'll make sure you suffer. If you can't buy the UN then coerce and buy yourself a coalition.
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Mssr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3752
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 4:47 pm: | |
GO LIVE !!! |
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
le Duc
Username: Lediablevert
Post Number: 197
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 4:46 pm: | |
Damn it, Headly, even still, even though I can't agree with you on that one because over half of the people that signed onto the "coalition of the willing" nations of the Bush Administration's ALSO have "thought" or are "thinking" about producing "WMD"'s, NOTHING justifies lying to the people of this nation and the world. Especially when it comes to your reasons for going to war. Bush made it sound like their was NO DOUBT in his mind that Saddam had WMD's in his country as his justification for going to war. But hey, it's been done before here I guess, in terms of lying about justifying war, in the case of Cuba, Korea, Vietnam, and Gulf War I.
>-I AM TROLLING FOR WALLEYE*> >--walleye-/*>
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Mssr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3751
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 4:38 pm: | |
Sadam was thinking about
producing WMD's. That's
all the justification you
need.
So much for GWEN.
GO LIVE !!! |
Lordhobgoblin (Lordhobgoblin)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Lordhobgoblin
Post Number: 818
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 1:59 pm: | |
"...your point on the WMDs, We haven't found Bin Laden or Sadam either, yet Ibelieve they were there at some time in the past. Do you honestly mean to tell me you believe that Sadam didn't have WMDs?"
Well where the fuck are the WMDs then? Even if we can't find them there is evidence that Saddam and Bin Laden existed. Where is the evidence that WMDs existed in Iraq prior to the war? All we've got is that lame presentation by Colin Powell showing grainy shots of lorries and buildings and the UK government's evidence consisting of a 10 year old PhD thesis lifted from the web.
The last excuse from Dubya was that the WMDs could not be found because they were looted. Somehow its pretty difficult to picture some Iraqi running down the street with a microwave oven under one arm and a nuclear missile under the other. If these weapons existed then where are they now and why didn't Saddam Hussein use them during the war?
The UN weapons inspectors found no WMDs and neither have the coalition troops. In the UK we were told by Blair that Saddam had WMDs that he could launch at British bases in Cyprus within 45 minutes. Now Blair tells us that he is confident that "evidence of WMD programmes" will be found, very different from saying that "evidence of WMDs" will be found. It seems that Blair isn't confident any longer that evidence of WMDs will now be found.
No wonder that recent surveys show that over 50% of the UK population now doesn't believe a single word he says. The Tories now have a 3 point lead in the polls (considering the state of the Tories, that is something). He lied to the public to justify sending our troops into a war we didn't want and we know it.
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Mssr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3744
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 8:09 pm: | |
WHY YES, Yes you can.
In the form of
a big red mitten-shaped
welt on your ass.
GO LIVE !!! |
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
le Duc
Username: Lediablevert
Post Number: 184
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 2:46 pm: | |
can i wear smitten mittens?
>-I AM TROLLING FOR WALLEYE*> >--walleye-/*>
>----walleye--/*> |
Mssr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3740
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 2:36 pm: | |
Prior to this last deluge,
You were not differentiating
between the policies of the State
and it's people. So you're not an
anti-semite. That's totally awesome.
And you're not a liberal! Rock on!!!
You are not barred from the
Forum you are barred from
this political shadow boxing
you keep engaging in. It's very
good that you studied real hard.
That's a good boy. You really need
to work on your oratory and structuring
your thoughts on the page. A little
grammatical "know how" goes a long way
as well.
You're right, this place is not free.
There are other venues if want the right to
express your every brain synapse about the
state of the Palestinian people and how
fucked up Israel is. LL at the Lounge LOVES
to chat, especially about Middle East Politics.
I'll smite you all right, I'll
smite you with my smitten mitten.
GO LIVE !!! |
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
le Duc
Username: Lediablevert
Post Number: 182
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 12:55 pm: | |
Headly,
You have left me dumbfounded myself.
I cannot stand it how people label anyone
who takes the viewpoint of the Palestinian people
who aren't arabs themselves as anti-semitics.
Such a closeminded approach to the matter
is idiodic.
Labelling me as an anti-semitic is rediculous,
because both Jews and Arabs come down from
the line of David and Solomon.
I have jewish friends. I even
concider jews to be the closest people
on earth to being my spiritual bretheren.
The only thing they beleive that us
Catholics do not is that the messiah
has not arrived yet. Also, my friend
Daniel Spiendel, whose family came here INSTEAD
of Israel after WW2 agrees right along with me
that Israel is an oppressive, genocidal,
murderous, thugly, rogue nation that needs to
be disarmed, made smaller in size, and have
a complete regime change, along with give
full nation rights to the people of Palestine.
And yes, he is a religious jew. Did you know that
the creation of the nation of Israel was blasphemous
to begin with? According to most conservative
religious Jews, the third temple, or nation of
Israel, was never supposed to be built until
the Messiach (Messiah) comes. I have studied
both Judaic and Islamic religions. And to say
that the muslim arabs have no religious place
in palestine is also completely absurd, because
Jerusalem is the place where the muslim
prophet Muhammad was supposedly told by
Allah in the quran to travel to meet the other
past-gone prophets, by traveling to the Dome
of The Rock, where he would ascend to the sky
into heaven, thereby meeting these prophets
including David, Jesus, and Moses.
For a muslim to pray at these mosques, the
power of those prayers is multiplied because of
the holiness of the sites. Headly, I am a leftist,
yes, but I am not a liberal. I am a socialist and an
environmentalist, who also by chance also
happens to be an Irish Catholic. I believe in
religious freedom, and also obviously human rights,
which is being extremely tarnished by the Israeli
government and defense forces in Israel
against the Palestinian people. And it needs to end.
America needs to break it's ties from the nation of
Israel until Israel begins to recognize
the Palestinian's people's human rights
and right of self determination.
Headly, bar me from this forum if you will,
but if you do, you are just proving to the other users
here that this is not a free place. This is yet another
place in the real world, and on the internet,
where free speech is nearly nonexistant.
Just as the patriot act practically cut the bill of rights
right out of the constitution of this country.
What a sad state everything has come to.
I guess I am going to leave it all with that, and with one
more last quote, and this is one from
a thread a few months back:
quote:Oh smite me, almighty smiters.
>-I AM TROLLING FOR WALLEYE*> >--walleye-/*>
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The Red Pigeon (Icarus)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Icarus
Post Number: 529
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 11:54 pm: | |
Fight the power Georgie!
"help help, I'm being repressed"~
PS. I love you admin!
Escapee from the drunk tank |
Mssr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3739
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 11:50 pm: | |
Georgie... You make me cry. Your
anti-semitic liberalism has really
got me wondering what I'm gonna do
to you.
Perhaps you better retreat now. I'm
giving you fair warning to behave yourself
and redeem yourself. You are BARRED from
discussing politics or expressing any kind
of social commentary or opinion.
You are now officially my responsibility.
Pet Georgie, this is your last chance.
GO LIVE !!! |
The Red Pigeon (Icarus)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Icarus
Post Number: 528
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 11:20 pm: | |
Weeeeee, I love sarcasm.
"I'm not a racist, I hate everyone the same".
Escapee from the drunk tank |
Oxygenee (Oxygenee)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Oxygenee
Post Number: 151
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 10:58 pm: | |
There's nothing like a full and heartfelt apology to clear the air, when there's been an inadvertent misunderstanding. I had no idea that some of your best friends were Jews. Thanks so much for filling us all in.
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DYP (Deadinplastic)
Mousquetaire
Username: Deadinplastic
Post Number: 13
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 2:08 pm: | |
I think his hemorroid is a bit past curable. He can't stick it back in no matter how deep he shoves. |
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
le Duc
Username: Lediablevert
Post Number: 177
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 1:15 pm: | |
>-I AM TROLLING FOR WALLEYE*> >--walleye-/*>
>----walleye--/*> |
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
le Duc
Username: Lediablevert
Post Number: 176
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 1:12 pm: | |
I have absolutely nothing wrong with the Jews,
nor their religion. I do, however, have a major issue
with the Colonist Jews in Israel in the IDF and the
Lukud Party who insist on maintaining the Jewish
settlements in Palestine, and waging war
with their previous rightful inhabitants, all the while
torturing them, maming them, executing them,
destroying their homes with tanks, killing their
children, and committing acts of mass genocide
against the people of Palestine. And, beleive or not,
I have plenty of Jewish friends who have the same
viewpoint I do. Zionism is murder. Zionism is
genocide. Zionism is Nazism. And yes,
those are jews burning the Israeli flag.
DEATH TO ARIEL SHARON
>-I AM TROLLING FOR WALLEYE*> >--walleye-/*>
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Oxygenee (Oxygenee)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Oxygenee
Post Number: 150
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 12:33 am: | |
I think you left out "hook-nosed" when describing the hateful Zionist jewish scum. |
DYP (Deadinplastic)
Mousquetaire
Username: Deadinplastic
Post Number: 12
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 11:48 pm: | |
Geogie Boy, you need some Preparation-H. It looks awful swallen. |
Strom Thurmond (Mogan_david)
le Duc
Username: Mogan_david
Post Number: 316
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 10:51 pm: | |
Head,
Thanks for letting me play with your friend. He really is a lot of fun. Please don't get jealous about all the kisses, I just can't help it, he's so cute.
MD
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Strom Thurmond (Mogan_david)
le Duc
Username: Mogan_david
Post Number: 315
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 10:45 pm: | |
Anyone ever say you were a little high strung Georgie?
As I read your last post it seemed like you said all that without taking a single breath.
Have you ever played poker Georgie? If you have, did you tell the other guys exactly what you were doing and why?
Do you expect George Bush to tell the world exactly why he want's to put troops into Iraq? Why he needs an American base in the heart of the Middle East? How far do you think that would have gotten him?
To your point on the WMDs, We haven't found Bin Laden or Sadam either, yet I believe they were there at some time in the past. Do you honestly mean to tell me you believe that Sadam didn't have WMDs?
About your laundry list of other criminals in the Middle East, all I have to say is one thing at a time. We are limited by what is possible. You can't make war against everyone at once. Like I said before, the only war you win is the one you don't have to fight. A strong US presence in the region will deter adventurous thugs like the ones you rail against.
If you want someone to blame for what is going on in the Middle East you only have to look back a couple of years. Bill Clinton is largely at fault because he did nothing when we were attacked in the past. When Bin Laden attacked the USS Cole, Clinton did nothing. When we lost those soldiers in Mogadishu we turned and ran like a scared little girl. The list goes on and on. No wonder the terrorists didn't fear us. No wonder they attacked us.
You say that Gore would have waited until Bin Laden was tried and hung by an international court. How was that going to happen? Who was going to get him, who was going to ensure that he had no place to run. Who was going to destroy those who supported him? If not us then who. If not by force, then how?
So you don't hate me, you only hate rednecks. Isn't it fun to lump people into little categories and then feel superior to them. It works best with people you don't know, it keeps the illusion from being shattered.
Much love, MD
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Mssr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3733
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 10:42 pm: | |
You really have the "return"
carridge trick down, Georgie.
Nice column! Very tall.
It's like trying to re-build
the WTC.
GO LIVE !!! |
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
le Duc
Username: Lediablevert
Post Number: 175
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 9:55 pm: | |
Where's the weapons of mass destruction?
Where's the Al-Queda operatives Saddam was
hiding in his country?
Where's the chemical agents?
Where's the biological weapons?
Where's the freaking nukes?
Face it, your president, and his crew
of bureaucrats, who also happily pulled the trigger
on president Kennedy and his brother,
destroyed whitehouse tapes and have broken into
DNC headquarters multiple times during
Nixon's administration, waged
secret wars in southeast asia, and covert operations
against
americans, and even passed laws banning
constitutional rights and freedoms (PATRIOT),
lied to you and everyone else about all of those
things about Iraq. They betrayed us. Over 200
americans have died fighting in iraq, and for what?
Oil and Israel, that's what. Why should we protect
Israel? Further more, since we claim to be fighting
terrorism, why are we protecting a country
that is in itself a state terrorist against it's own
arab citizens and surrounding arab countries,
and fails to grant sovereignty to a nation of people
that have been free from jewish and european
rule ever since the end of the crusades? And to talk
about a rogue nation, you should read about
Israel's nuclear programs history. Hell, they were
given a nuclear reactor from France, turned it into
a weapon packing it with stolen uranium, and to this
day still haven't joined the UNAEC, which they must
do legally in order to remain a sound UN member,
all of the while admitting that they have nuclear,
chemical, and biological weapons. Ok, if you really
beleive in fighting terror, and protecting the world
from nuclear disaster and fallout, you'd support
disarming Israel, not some down and out country
with a greedy old man unwilling to give up his throne
as president. Sure, that's a problem, but Saddam
Hussein posed no direct threat to the US, as we
have now found out by doing a gridmap search
of his country for weapons of terror, which we
have found none, except for some outdated
russian tank equipment. And sure, he's murdered, maimed, tortured,
and committed acts of genocide against the kurdish
people in the north, but no more than the nation of
Turkey has in the past, and still continue to do so.
And by continue to do so, I mean they are freaking
at war with Kurdestan right now, and have wiped
out entire unarmed countryside villages in Kurdestan.
And there again, another scumbag nation of
mobster thieving criminals is an ally of the
bush administration. And there again, in your post,
you still fail to separate the majority of
middle easterners and muslims from the minority of
terrorists. And no, I don't hate you, even for that.
But it's people like you, and I am not trying to call
you a redneck, but there are many more just
like you in texas, seem to be more out for
revenge for what happened in new york and
pennsylvania on that fateful day of 9/11.
Which, I mean, I guess that's human, but
you should be taking out the real purpetrators that are
hiding in africa, like the few scumbags that just
blew up a synogogue in Morocco in the last
couple of months. They still haven't been caught.
Attacking, invading, and militarily colonizing Iraq
is not only a misguided approach to fighting terror,
but it is also a crime against the Iraqi people
and the men and women in the armed forces
of the United States. It was an unjust, pre-emptive,
and internationally illegal strike. The findings
there over the past couple months have only
proven that further. And if it was just about
getting a dictator out of power, and removing
a group of genociding murderers, why
isn't the same action, or a similar one, being done
about Turkey? As I said earlier, Turkey is a freaking
ally is Bush's cause! This makes Bush not
only extremely backwards and criminal like,
like his old pal Richard Milhous Nixon, but it also
makes him an outright hypocrite, and he deserves to
be impeached. He needs to be impeached
for leading the american people into an unjust war
and putting more of us in more harms way
by building up more military presence in a region
which caused us to be struck the first time in the
first place, he needs to be impeached for
the coup de'taut he pulled to gain office in
the presidency, and he needs to be impeached
for abandoning his so called war on terror
to achieve personal goals and the goals
of outside rogue nations, specifically the nation of
Israel. And on Gore, I know for a fact that
Iraq would be left alone, at least until
Osama Bin Ladden was either tried, convicted,
and hung by an international court,
or confirmed dead, along with the rest of his
murderous cohorts. Al Gore would not have
abandoned the cause of seeking out Osama
to go after oil and to protect Israel. Now, I mean,
I've said all that I have to at this point I think.
This is not an argument. This is a debate, and I'm
not trying to have the last word here.
Oh, and by the way, bushwhacked is a term
that we otherwise peaceful people seeking real
justice for what happened on September 11th
instead of outright, blatant revenge for people
who have been completely manipulated by
the Bush Administration and the media they control
alongside the zionist Israeli jews. It's nothing
personal.
>-I AM TROLLING FOR WALLEYE*> >--walleye-/*>
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Mssr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3732
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 9:51 pm: | |
This is what I see when
I think of the
United States of America...
GO LIVE !!! |
Mssr. Kallisti (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis
Post Number: 3731
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 9:38 pm: | |
You also know he's my little boy toy.
GO LIVE !!! |
Strom Thurmond (Mogan_david)
le Duc
Username: Mogan_david
Post Number: 314
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 9:13 pm: | |
Oh Georgie, where do I start.
First of all could you please explain what you meant by my being bushwhacked, I guess I must have misunderstood.
I can understand your feelings about our President. I just wish you could find another nickname for him. Shrub seems a little unimaginative and boring. I personally like a nice wet steamy bush, but that's just me. I am curious, would you rather have had Al Gore determine our reaction to 9-11? The guy has the passion of a wet piece of cardboard. What do you think Al might have done differently from “Hair Pie”?
quote:Oh, I get it! We make them hate us more
They already hate us as much as they possibly can. Do you think they quit hating us after 9-11? Do you think the magnitude of their terror is proportional to their level of hate for us. Let them hate us, fuck em. What I want is for them to also fear us. Sun Tzu said the only war you win is the one you don't have to fight. You can only do that from a position of strength. People can hate you all they want, but they won't attack you if they know that they will be destroyed in response.
Thanks to the courage of Bush and Blair, the cop has moved into the terrorist's back yard. Iraq, like Germany and Japan will flourish in it's new found freedom. The remaining despots in the Middle East now know that American planes are only minutes from striking them if they should give safe harbor to terrorists.
Face it Georgie, the world has changed because of the war you were against. The world is now much safer than it was before. Iraq is free of a tyrant.
I never called you narrow minded, I called you small-minded. I said this because you seemed to turn a bunch of hostility my way for no other reason than the fact that I have a different point of view than you do.
Though I disagree with you, I respect the fact that you have strongly held beliefs. I try to see things from your point of view and ask questions about what I think are flaws in your viewpoint. I believe that you are probably a decent person, and I don't hate you. I'm not sure that you would say the same about me. I find people who react to disagreements in a knee-jerk hateful manner to be small minded.
More big wet kisses, MD
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