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The Levitating Grin Salesman (Rimbaud)
le Duc
Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 257
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 12:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

If there WAS star anise in Emile, it would probably have a milkier, more opaque louche and take less effort to get it to do so. This does not mean I wish they used star anise. On the contrary, I am glad that they don't. I do however, agree with Artemis that absinthe can be made without star anise and still have a milky, opaque louche when prepared using room temperature water. I have experienced such a product first hand.
"Please pardon our appearance while we are levitating..."
Crochety Old Bastard (Artemis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Artemis

Post Number: 858
Registered: 10-2000


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 12:47 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Just in case anybody thinks that last post is an accusation about Emile (i.e., star anise in it) it's quite the opposite - it's to lampoon the myth that star anise is necessary for a powerful louche. It's not.
"He is an unapologetic, crochety old bastard who will peddle any fibs that will make him a buck, or put him on a pedestal."
Crochety Old Bastard (Artemis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Artemis

Post Number: 857
Registered: 10-2000


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 12:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"no, use very cold water and be patient, pour it slowly and let it happen...this is why the ritual took so long in the first place...it is a process"

Sound advice for any product (and most rituals as well), but on the other hand, it's possible for absinthe to louche nicely with room temperature water from a seltzer bottle, and without star anise in it, either.
"He is an unapologetic, crochety old bastard who will peddle any fibs that will make him a buck, or put him on a pedestal."
Crochety Old Bastard (Artemis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Artemis

Post Number: 856
Registered: 10-2000


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 12:32 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

" i didn't say it had more thujone...that's the point "

Knowing full well that adding a sack of wormwood to every bottle wouldn't increase the thujone level much, I surmised which direction the reading had gone. I suspect the Pigeon did as well; he was just having a little fun shooting up the saloon.
"He is an unapologetic, crochety old bastard who will peddle any fibs that will make him a buck, or put him on a pedestal."
Moonman's friend (Wolfgang)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Wolfgang

Post Number: 1001
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 11:40 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Moonman also told me that the nice floating/clear headed effect is not directly related to the amount of wormwood used. It is all about having the correct process and the balance of ingredients. This have been confirmed with Moonman's last experiments (since #22 and especially the blanches #24 and 25).

There's more to absinthe than the wormwood.

For exemple, go make yourself a huge cup of hyssop tea and let me know about it... (It would make you feal calm and relaxed). Combine it with other herbs and ethanol and it may provide a nice feeling.

pierre verte (Petermarc)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Petermarc

Post Number: 479
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 5:14 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

>I'm just glad it's new and improved with more Thujone

i didn't say it had more thujone...that's the point

>is there any plans to maybe increase the louche

no, use very cold water and be patient, pour it slowly and let it happen...this is why the ritual took so long in the first place...it is a process
Zouave (Giovannigray)
le Duc
Username: Giovannigray

Post Number: 199
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 3, 2003 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

oops..double post..sorry.
Zouave (Giovannigray)
le Duc
Username: Giovannigray

Post Number: 198
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 3, 2003 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well, more thujone or not, I'm glad to learn that it wasn't just my imagination that my latest bottle of Emile 68 tasted a little different (and, as I said, even better). Thanks, Peter.
Zouave (Giovannigray)
le Duc
Username: Giovannigray

Post Number: 197
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 3, 2003 - 11:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well, more thujone or not, I'm glad to see that it wasn't just my imagination that my latest bottle of Emile 68 seemed a little different (and, as I said, even better). Thanks, Peter.
The Red Pigeon (Icarus)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Icarus

Post Number: 555
Registered: 4-2003


Posted on Sunday, August 3, 2003 - 9:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Louche?

I'm just glad it's new and improved with more Thujone. Does each bottle now have two scoops?
Escapee from the drunk tank
Bob (I_b_puffin)
le Duc
Username: I_b_puffin

Post Number: 187
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 3, 2003 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

If it's a work in progress, is there any plans to maybe increase the louche?
pierre verte (Petermarc)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Petermarc

Post Number: 478
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Sunday, August 3, 2003 - 5:32 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

>Like I say, I'm probably seeing and tasting things that aren't there, but - my god, it's tasty.

the 'un émile' is a work in progress...gérard pernot continues to improve his product, both with the 45° and the 68°...he has recently added 30% more absinthe to the pre-distillate maceration, with a surprising change in the thujone level...this just adds more to the debate that thujone is NOT the culprit... it is important to remember that the 68° ALWAYS has input from LDF and what everyone who is really interested in absinthe wants, because we listen to you but HAVE to work within the legal parameters that are imposed upon us (of which thujone levels are a small detail in the total process of getting it to you), and we are thankful of everyone's understanding.

be patient, because this is a business world that is ignorant of absinthes of quality and doesn't know yet that they could exist on a commercial scale...

Spoon Boy (Absinthespoon)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Absinthespoon

Post Number: 342
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Sunday, August 3, 2003 - 9:11 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The louche is thinnish, comparable to Emile.
The Levitating Grin Salesman (Rimbaud)
le Duc
Username: Rimbaud

Post Number: 253
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Sunday, August 3, 2003 - 8:45 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Spoonboy, how is the louche?
"Please pardon our appearance while we are levitating..."
Zouave (Giovannigray)
le Duc
Username: Giovannigray

Post Number: 196
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 3, 2003 - 12:54 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

This is encouraging.. I just ordered a bottle of the Lemercier 72 from Markus yesterday. "Comparing favorably with Emile" is high praise to me, since I'm still enamored with their products.

And speaking of Emile.. I just received another bottle of regular Emile 68. Now, it may be my imagination, but the contents of this newest bottle seemed to taste even better than the last bottle I (quickly) finished.. smoother, and more like some of the better HG I've tried..and the louche seemed to have just a very slightly more greenish tint to it.

Like I say, I'm probably seeing and tasting things that aren't there, but - my god, it's tasty.

Spoon Boy (Absinthespoon)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Absinthespoon

Post Number: 341
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Saturday, August 2, 2003 - 5:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I just received a bottle of Lemercier 72 from Frenchman, and I have to say I am well pleased. I think it compares favorably with Emile. It also has a woody taste which reminds me of Kubler, but with none of the funky nastiness found in Kubler. It tastes like a distilled absinthe to me, not an oil mixture.
Bob (I_b_puffin)
le Duc
Username: I_b_puffin

Post Number: 156
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 12:59 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Amen!
Absinthe-Distribution.com (Markus) (Mclion)
le Duc
Username: Mclion

Post Number: 173
Registered: 4-2002


Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 12:18 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

ok, I've got it in next Wednesday. Minis are already available...
Markus
www.Absinthe-Distribution.com
Crosby (Crosby)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Crosby

Post Number: 644
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 1:15 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

"Stupidity rules the world!"

Can I get an Amen!
C'est ma santé
ENORMUS DICK (Louched_liver)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Louched_liver

Post Number: 2102
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:37 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I proudly display Markus' matches on my home bar.
Hi, what're ya havin'?
Absinthe-Distribution.com (Markus) (Mclion)
le Duc
Username: Mclion

Post Number: 168
Registered: 4-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

These guys would drink 100% Alcohol if there was :-) Stupidity rules the world!
Markus
www.Absinthe-Distribution.com
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
le Duc
Username: Lediablevert

Post Number: 117
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 7:10 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

KING OF SPIRITS
>-I AM TROLLING FOR WALLEYE*> >--walleye-/*>
>----walleye--/*>
Bob (I_b_puffin)
le Duc
Username: I_b_puffin

Post Number: 151
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 7:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well, you have my sympathy for having to deal with ignorant consumers who want the worst absinthe. It's got to be painful that more people want Hills than F. Guy.
Georgie Boy (Mighty Fine Young Man) (Lediablevert)
le Duc
Username: Lediablevert

Post Number: 109
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:09 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

If you do, don't use an absinthe spoon!
It's a bloody waste of good silver!
>-I AM TROLLING FOR WALLEYE*> >--walleye-/*>
>----walleye--/*>
Absinthe-Distribution.com (Markus) (Mclion)
le Duc
Username: Mclion

Post Number: 166
Registered: 4-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:41 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hey man, I've still some of my own matches. Real LaFeeVerte.de matches - meanwhile a rarity. Maybe maybe maybe I show them that night - but I'm not sure if I'm going to light one up :-))
Markus
www.Absinthe-Distribution.com

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