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Baz (Baz)
le Duc
Username: Baz

Post Number: 160
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 8:40 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness-Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas

Anybody see the special on Ruby Ridge last night on TLC?
Crosby (Crosby)
le Duc
Username: Crosby

Post Number: 285
Registered: 12-2001

Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

It starts small and then snowballs. To paraphrase Ben Franklin, those who will sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither.
C'est ma santé
Alphasoixante (Alphasoixante)
Username: Alphasoixante

Post Number: 73
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 9, 2003 - 10:45 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

there's a sequel in the works to the patriot act. a draft and information available at bill moyer's NOW site:

highlights include:
the government could actually strip citizenship from someone if — for example, if you were found, according to this, if you were found making what you thought was a legitimate contribution to some non profit organization.
Will give the Attorney General the unchecked power to deport any foreigner
It would give the government the power to keep certain arrests secret until an indictment
It would give the government power to bypass courts and grand juries in order to conduct surveillance without a judge's permission.
would authorize creation of a DNA database on "suspected terrorists"

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