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Quidam (Artemis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Artemis

Post Number: 590
Registered: 10-2000


Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 1:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"Artemis, are you sure you’re not a clandestine Michigander?"

Shhhhhhhhhhhh !!!
Marcellin (Marcellin)
Mousquetaire
Username: Marcellin

Post Number: 8
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 1:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Kallisti, it’s great to hear from you, I’m “kinda” glad you’re having such nice weather. I myself went ice-fishing last weekend – chilly!

p.

- and yes, when there are enough of the wiggle bastards above ground, you can smell them. Not quite like Napalm in the morning, but it does convey a certain sense of victory – or such.
Marcellin (Marcellin)
Mousquetaire
Username: Marcellin

Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 1:18 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Artemis, are you sure you’re not a clandestine Michigander?
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: _blackjack_

Post Number: 819
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 1:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

do worms smell? gah.



My worm has no nose...
Quidam (Artemis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Artemis

Post Number: 589
Registered: 10-2000


Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yes, worms have a smell, but I think what they have in mind is rather the smell of earth after a heavy rain. They associate it with the worms cause the flooded ground drives them to the surface. I remember seeing the crows dance around in my (sandy) driveway up there after a good storm. I went out to see what they were excited about - big fat worms everywhere.
Kallisti (Admin)
Madame Guillotine
Username: Admin

Post Number: 846
Registered: 1-1998


Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 11:53 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

"smell of worms" ????

do worms smell? gah.

k a l l i s t i

http://www.feeverte.net
The (Celticgent)
Mousquetaire
Username: Celticgent

Post Number: 47
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 11:48 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I don't know which model they have, but Alandia has repro Toulouse Lautrec spoons for about 17 Euros.
In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
Quidam (Artemis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Artemis

Post Number: 586
Registered: 10-2000


Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 11:29 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

YOU KNOW YOU'RE FROM MICHIGAN IF...

1. You've never met any celebrities.

2. "Vacation" means going to Cedar Point.

3. At least one member of your family disowns you the week of the Michigan/Michigan State game.

4. Half the change in your pocket is Canadian .... eh?

5. You drive 86 mph on the highway and pass on the right.

6. Your idea of a traffic jam is 40 cars waiting to pass an orange barrel.

7. You know how to play (and pronounce) Euchre.

8. It's easy to get VERNOR'S ginger ale, SANDERS hot fudge sauce and Faygo pop.
(Let's not forget Bell's Cherry Stout)

9. You know how to pronounce "Mackinac".

10. You've had to turn on the heat and the A/C on the same day.

11. You bake with SODA and drink POP.

12. The movie "Escanaba in Da Moonlight" wasn't funny. You consider it a documentary.

13. Your little league game was snowed out.

14. The word "thumb" has geographical, rather than anatomical significance.

15. You show people where you grew up by pointing to a spot on your hand.

16. Traveling coast-to-coast means driving from Detroit to St. Joseph.

17. You measure distance in minutes.

18. When giving directions, you refer to "A Michigan Left."

19. You know that Kalamazoo not only exists, but isn't far from Hell.

20. Your year has 2 seasons: Winter and Highway Construction.

21. Home Depot on any Saturday is busier than toy stores at Christmas.

22. You know when it has rained because of the smell of worms.

23. Owning a Japanese car is a hanging offense in your town.

24. You believe "down south" means Toledo.

And finally...

25. YOU ACTUALLY "GET" THESE JOKES AND FORWARD THEM ON TO ALL YOUR MICHIGAN FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
Kallisti (Admin)
Madame Guillotine
Username: Admin

Post Number: 844
Registered: 1-1998


Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 10:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hola Marcellin! We miss ya!

Yes, it's expected to reach a lovely 63 degrees this afternoon. Nyah!

Liver, do you here me? SIXTY-THREE DEGREES.

k a l l i s t i

http://www.feeverte.net
Marcellin (Marcellin)
Paysan
Username: Marcellin

Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 9:35 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Emmy, nice to hear from you, and yes I’m still around (sometimes a’square).

Too bad I wasn’t joining you and “kallisti over sushi”. (Hi Kallisti!) I’m still here in the frigid mitten. It looks like your weather has been nice lately; maybe I should come out and visit. Never been to SF - when are the SF people having an absinthe gathering?

Patrick

ps. My apologies about the personal post in the Toulouse Lautrec Repro thread. As you were gentlemen.
James Bain (Orgulasmaggot)
Paysan
Username: Orgulasmaggot

Post Number: 16
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 6:42 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I too have a reproduction (thanks spoonboy) of one of these "alleged Toulouse Lautrec spoons" and do quite like it.

They might have been (and this is a 'might have been', right?) gifts or the like, thereby answering the family crest issue, but are as likley as not, as has also been suggested, tribute pieces.
Spoon Boy (Absinthespoon)
le Duc
Username: Absinthespoon

Post Number: 234
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Wolf, please check your hotmail. I tried to send mail to your other address and it bounced. Thanks.
2LY (2loucheltrec)
le Vicomte
Username: 2loucheltrec

Post Number: 247
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 7:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

abspoons repros t-l spoons are really nice, he offered the original design as an "upgrade" from the altered monogram listed on his site. it's become my fav spoon to use.
Spoon Boy (Absinthespoon)
le Duc
Username: Absinthespoon

Post Number: 233
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 6:51 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

For inquiries about the spoons, please contact me directly. My email address is in my profile.

Wolf and Drinkslinger, I will contact you tonight.
Thanks!
Heathen Beaner (Emmy)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Emmy

Post Number: 54
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 4:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

many thanks, oxy. beautiful collection indeed.

marcellin! good to see you around. was just talkin about you with kallisti over sushi :D
Marcellin (Marcellin)
Paysan
Username: Marcellin

Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 12:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks for letting me be a voyeur to your collection, a very unique and impressive display.
Oxygenee (Oxygenee)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Oxygenee

Post Number: 101
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

The spoons are certainly controversial. There are apparently 12 in existence, and they seem to have surfaced about a decade ago. They are not as far as I know recognised by any Toulouse Lautrec experts, nor by the Toulouse Lautrec museum at Albi (if they were accepted as being from the hand of the master, then the going rate for them - $3000-$4000 - would be laughably cheap).

Toulouse Lautrec was an aristocrat. It seems very unlikely to me that he would commission a custom set of absinthe spoons - but if he did, I'd have expected him to use his family crest, rather than his artistic monogram. The spoons are also relatively crudely made - again one would expect far finer workmanship. I doubt very much that they are really genuine - its quite possible though that they were made as a kind of tribute item in the decades after his death, rather than with the deliberate intent to deceive.

The fact that they are listed by Madame Delahaye in her book is not a guarantee of authenticity. She lists them, prominently but cautiously in a separate category, with no coroborating evidence at all. There are several other expensive spoons that fall into the same doubtful category. Several spoons listed in Madame Delahaye's L"Absinthe journals are not listed in her recent book, presumabely because she has changed her mind about their authenticity.

Ultimately this comes down to an individual gut-feel - its unlikely that we will ever have a definitive answer one way or the other. To me, more than anything else, they seem too good to be true - like finding an old bloodstained razor-blade marked "Property of V. Van Gogh"...

I think the two rarest and most important spoons of unquestioned authenticity are the Les Tours Eiffel #8 "1900" and even better the (rather strangely categorised) Les Ouvrages #10 "Garnison Nancy". Sadly, both are missing from my collection....

For those interested in absinthiana, I've patched together a rudimentary photo-album style website of some interesting items from my collection - the navigation is very basic, and it's still very much a beta version, but you can view it at www.oxygenee.com .
Mondino de' Luzzi (Drinkslinger)
le Duc
Username: Drinkslinger

Post Number: 164
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 11:37 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yes, how much are the original monogram spoons?
Moonman's friend (Wolfgang)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Wolfgang

Post Number: 852
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 11:29 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

''I actually do have a limited number of repro Toulouse Lautrec spoons with the original design monogram ''

How much including shipping to Canada ?
Crosby (Crosby)
le Duc
Username: Crosby

Post Number: 294
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I don't have a published source, merely that I've heard them referred to as the "alleged Toulouse Lautrec spoons" in some correspondence and conversations I've had. I was hoping if someone here was part of the debate, they might post some information. As to the one that was provided for the reproductions, I believe it was from the set of "originals".
C'est ma santé
Spoon Boy (Absinthespoon)
le Duc
Username: Absinthespoon

Post Number: 232
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

or are you just questioning the example that was used for making the repro? That, I don't know.
Spoon Boy (Absinthespoon)
le Duc
Username: Absinthespoon

Post Number: 231
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'm just trusting what Marie-Claude says in her book. I actually have not heard of any controversy about the TL spoons. Do you have a source for that?
Crosby (Crosby)
le Duc
Username: Crosby

Post Number: 293
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:18 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Shouldn't it be reproductions of the alleged Toulouse Lautrec spoons? As far as I know the jury is still out on the provenance of the "originals". Has anyone heard if this was ever resolved?
C'est ma santé
Spoon Boy (Absinthespoon)
le Duc
Username: Absinthespoon

Post Number: 230
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 9:47 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Head! I was in stealth mode...
Absinthe Queen of Reviews (Head_prosthesis)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Head_prosthesis

Post Number: 1669
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 9:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

...just to correct something Nolan said over at Winston's forum. I actually do have a limited number of repro Toulouse Lautrec spoons with the original design monogram (HDTL) in addition to the ones I have been selling with the altered monogram (LDF).

-Absinthespoon




Do it right Spoonie!
Reposting someone else's original web content since 15 days ago

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