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Mondino de' Luzzi (Drinkslinger)
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Post Number: 180
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 5, 2003 - 8:49 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hmm, I know there's some hidden meaning here somewhere (as well as 1/2 a digit).

Are we the finger and Iraq the ass.. or is Saddam the finger in our ass... Are the red corset and stockings symbolic of impending bloodshed, and the dark pillows "old blood". Her Body position is relaxed... much like lazy America of pre 911, but her expression is one of intensity. Perhaps the shock by recent occurences.

Or

Maybe Admin was bored.
Absinthe Queen of Reviews (Head_prosthesis)
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Post Number: 1717
Registered: 1-2001


Posted on Wednesday, March 5, 2003 - 8:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ha! Now I get it...
A lady who has a secure seat is never prettier than when in the saddle..."
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Kallisti (Admin)
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Post Number: 868
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Posted on Wednesday, March 5, 2003 - 8:15 am:   Edit PostPrint Post



Preparing for the attack

A lady who has a secure seat is never prettier than when in the saddle, and she who cannot make her conquest there, may despair of the power of her charms elsewhere. - THE MANNERS THAT WIN, 1880

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Alphasoixante (Alphasoixante)
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Wednesday, March 5, 2003 - 5:10 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

hooray for dr. o!
hooray for anti-relativism!
hooray for anti-utilitarianism!

the means justifies the end!

america go fuck yourself with your atom bomb.
Dr. O (Dr_ordinaire)
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Post Number: 444
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 5, 2003 - 2:08 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

"The atomic weapon was used on Hiroshima to prevent at least a million American and Japanese casualties that would have been the result of NOT using it."

The problem with this line of reasoning is that it can be used both ways.

According to it, it would have been OK for the Nazis to pulverize New York and Washington if they had developed the bomb first. It would have certainly ended the war and prevent a lot of Nazi and American casualties.

Samewise, it would be OK for the Palestinians, if they get hold of a nuke, to turn Haifa into radioactive rubble.

No. It is wrong now, and it was wrong then. That very same atomic bomb, dropped on Mount Fuji at Tokyo's rush hour, would have also ended the war.

(My geography is vague: can you see Mount Fuji from Tokyo? But you get my point...)
Althea (Rosietwobears)
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 11:42 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

so the government isnt jesus humping in america?
then whats with bush praying on TV and quoting the bible and crap like that?
ie: when the shuttle blew up the man quoted the bible. talk about blatant disregard for the fact that some of those people may have been atheists and one was a jew.
i just hate all the "lets pray to geesusuah to helpah usah kick muslimah assah" i mean what ever happened to separation of church and state?
sure i could be wrong but i was under the impression that the republican ticket was obviously fundamental right-wing christian.

"Take your sarcasm and stick it in your Dutch oven. Some fled from the U.S., Eurowelfare-sucking fake American Indian name weeniette"

wow thats sad dude. how pathetic that you get so rifled that you cant debate objectivly or reply intelligently and have stoop to flinging personal insults to try and defend your case.
- i didnt flee the US, i moved because i married a dutchman and my life has been much richer for it.
- the point is that government sanctioned care of its citizens isnt welfare. its a fact of life over here. there are people who abuse the system over here just like anywhere in the world but i wouldnt be one of those so your "welfare sucking" jibe in inapropriate and out of place.
- the native american name is just a screen name... and has sentimental value... im not sure how commenting on an internet ID validates your case but thats cool. sad but cool. go for it.
- im not a weeniette. i just dont suport the war. that doesnt mean i shy away from conflict or that im weak.

"the last person who has any right to lecture any U.S. citizen on any thing whatsoever. The crap you post is right out of the Lisa Simpson handbook of half-truthful, reliant on pseudo-science, pie in the sky liberal BULLSHIT. Water cars, my ass."

why am i the last person who should comment? is your freedom so overblown that you percieve yourself as having the right to decide who may and may not voice their opinions? please excuse my audacity for not kissing gung-ho kill em all ass here. what was i thinking?

im sure alot of my ideals are liberal pie in the sky... im sure they said the same when the idea of the world being round was first proposed. and look where technology has brought us since those days... im sure that new cleaner technology would be a fact if the technology was funded with even a small % of the money used to wage a war. all those liberal pie in the sky bullshit scientists need is a queen isabelle who wont scoff and help finance their journey.
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Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
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Post Number: 843
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

I wasn't talking to you, but riding your bike is a bitch in the Washington area winter, innit?



Well, I take the bus when I can. If it ran until 2am I'd do it all the time. As it stands, when I do have to commute for the late shift, it's in a small, efficient car. I usually only drive about 3000 miles a year.

quote:

Are you lobbying to allow drilling in Alaska, or are you afraid to offend a moose?



I'm presently in the midst of reserarch and re-evaluation of my position on energy policy. I had long favored nuclear power (which is still far FAR safer and cleaner than fossil fuels) but I think the window in which it was the most viable option has nearly passed. Advances in storage and transmission technologies have begun to close the gaps that held back other renewables.

If we put real money and research into things like hydrogen-as-storage, not to mention de-centalization (using many newer, small, ultra-efficient gas-combustion turbines throughout the community instead of relying on older, centralized plants) we could go a long way towards at least REDUCING our need for petrolium to the point that we wouldn't need to even LOOK at the Mideast if we didn't want to. I don't think we're going to be off the black dinosaur nipple any time soon, but we can at least begin the weening process.
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
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Post Number: 842
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 11:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

here is some interesting reading on how great life is in iraq



I don't recall saying life was nice in Iraq. Now, our sanctions make it a lot worse, but still, I'll be the first to admit that it's bad.

Wanna know some other places where it's bad? Try Saudi Arabia. Try Turkey if you're a Kurd or Armenian. Try Pakistan. Hell, even Israel, the "shining beacon of democracy" sucks pretty harshly if you are a Palestinian who happens to live next door to a suspected terrorist. China can be pretty rough, too, especially if you're in Tibet, or try to express a political opinion.

(I won't get into how much Chile sucked under Pinochet, Indonesia sucked under Suharto, etc...)

Listen, I'll say this one more time: IRAN, the one country which has had the most direct experience with Saddams WMDs, has said that the US should not invade. If the long-sworn enemies of somebody say you shouldn't attack them, maybe you should step back and get a little perspective.
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
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Post Number: 841
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 11:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

Christians as a whole are shut up and put down, by the Democrats, by liberal judges, by the government-run schools, and by the "news media" with a ferocity that makes sure they're not even taken seriously



Dude, what frigging country are you in? I can't drive half a block without seeing a church. I can't make it through the day without having somebody wish me a "blessed day". Christianity is infused into almost everything our society does, and our government policies (not just under the Republicans but under Bill "Faith Based Initiatives" Clinton) are thick with attempts to impose christian morality on the people. Polls show Americans would sooner elect a lesbian than an atheist president. Now, I'm not saying we have a fundementalist regime, but anybody who claims that Christianity is somehow suppressed in this country is on the pipe.
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
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Post Number: 840
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

oil isnt the issue... where did this idea come from.




It is an oil issue, ultimately, because if it wasn't for oil we would not give a tin shit about what happens in the middle east.
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
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Post Number: 839
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 10:56 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

100,000 dead American civilians? Where did this number come from?



It would be a very low estimate for the number of Iraqis who have died because of our sanctions.
gary kiger (Teneng)
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 8:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

here is some interesting reading on how great life is in iraq

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2003/iraq-img213573.pdf

for all of you liberals www.globalsecurity.org is a great resource for actual facts(wierd)... maybe you can find something there to help support your cause, good luck with that.
gary kiger (Teneng)
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 7:47 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

" i say either everybody has bombs or no one does."

ya so we can have one big fuckin cold war. not just with two countries; this time we can get everyone involved. thats fun right?


all you fuckin "appeasers" in europe need to be thankin god every day that the usa's dick is a big as it is. if it wasnt for us you would probably be going to a lutheran(nothing against lutherans) church saluting a swastika.
Quidam (Artemis)
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Post Number: 626
Registered: 10-2000


Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 7:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"Er, trying to reduce our dependancy on foreign oil so he becomes a non-issue."

I wasn't talking to you, but riding your bike is a bitch in the Washington area winter, innit? Are you lobbying to allow drilling in Alaska, or are you afraid to offend a moose? Oh I see, the water car ....
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Quidam (Artemis)
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Post Number: 625
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Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 7:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"and is also run by a fundamnetalist regime (only christian as opposed to islamic)"

That's might be the stupidest thing you've posted here. It's completely without any basis in reality. There is no "regime" of any kind in the U.S. and Christians as a whole are shut up and put down, by the Democrats, by liberal judges, by the government-run schools, and by the "news media" with a ferocity that makes sure they're not even taken seriously, much less allowed to dictate policy or wage a holy war of any kind. Admittedly, the vast majority of them are hypocrites, but that's true of most Muslims and beside the point.

"... so why isnt the rest of the world trying to disarm the USA?"

Cause they'd get their asses kicked?

"i say either everybody has bombs or no one does."

Volunteer to start building one for the Dutch immediately.

[sarcasm]

Take your sarcasm and stick it in your Dutch oven. Some fled from the U.S., Eurowelfare-sucking fake American Indian name weeniette is the last person who has any right to lecture any U.S. citizen on any thing whatsoever. The crap you post is right out of the Lisa Simpson handbook of half-truthful, reliant on pseudo-science, pie in the sky liberal BULLSHIT. Water cars, my ass.

"*cough*hiroshima*cough*"

The atomic weapon was used on Hiroshima to prevent at least a million American and Japanese casualties that would have been the result of NOT using it. Cough on that. Better, cough on THIS!
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Althea (Rosietwobears)
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 6:00 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"anyway...do you know what would happen if we stopped importing oil from the middle east?"

uuuuum progress would me made using other technologies such as cars powered by batteries charged on solar and wind power? maybe they would further the study on cars that run on water as opposed to oil derivitives? green enery would become the norm and the middle east and her resources would cease to be an issue?

and if this is all about good will and not seizing another countries resources to maintain the upperhand in the economic world... then tell me where the fuck was america when the slaughter in rawanda was happening? where are they as the rainforest gets plowed under to make room for another McDonalds while the indiginous people are being forced away from their homes? hmmm i wonder what the US's cut is on those trees in brazil...

i dont understand the disarmament standpoint either to be honest. the US has bigger and badder weapons than Iraq... and is also run by a fundamnetalist regime (only christian as opposed to islamic)... so why isnt the rest of the world trying to disarm the USA? why is it ok for there to be 2 separate sets of rules? i say either everybody has bombs or no one does.

[sarcasm]
because its not like the good old USA has ever used weapons of mass destruction... they really know how to deal with the responsibility! thats why they can be above the rules!
[/sarcasm]
*cough*hiroshima*cough*
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gary kiger (Teneng)
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 4:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"Er, trying to reduce our dependancy on foreign oil so he becomes a non-issue."

oil isnt the issue... where did this idea come from.

anyway...do you know what would happen if we stopped importing oil from the middle east?
Gasspectro (Gasspectro)
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 4:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

100,000 dead American civilians? Where did this number come from? You can bet that any civilian casualties in this war will be at a minimum, not counting any deaths that Saddam will inflict on his populace. After all the crying and hand wringing you can bet that the people of Irag will be freed from this nutcase. And yes, comparing him to Hitler is every bit accurate.Let's see: gassing his own populace, making an internal minority the scapegoat for all the countries ills (see Kurds),killing millions, invading another country because he thinks the world will sit aside. The only reason he doesn't is because he learned his lesson in Gulf War I. Saddam and Bin Laden buddies? Nope, but don't forget, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." When all is said and done I'm willing to bet that we will find out many links between Saddam and Bin Laden, that many of his hidden WMD will have "Made in China/France/Russia" all over them.
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
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Post Number: 838
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 3:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

If it results in the PREVENTION of even 1,000 dead American civilians, I suspect he'd consider it a just cause. And so would I.



Except, the thing is, this war is only going to INCREASE the number of nut-jobs hell-bent on plowing up anything they see as associated with America.


quote:

What are YOU doing about Saddam other than wishing he goes away?



Er, trying to reduce our dependancy on foreign oil so he becomes a non-issue.
Quidam (Artemis)
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Post Number: 624
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Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 3:20 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"If this war was likely to result in over 100,000 dead American civilians I suspect you'd be somewhat less supportive."

If it results in the PREVENTION of even 1,000 dead American civilians, I suspect he'd consider it a just cause. And so would I.

"If you support the war then at least go and fucking fight in it as an infantry soldier yourself."

He already told you (in other posts) he was in the American military and going over there this year. In support of the infantry soldier are hundreds of other skilled specialists every bit as valuable. What are YOU doing about Saddam other than wishing he goes away?
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Lordhobgoblin (Lordhobgoblin)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 4, 2003 - 12:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"there is always a price to freedom, and its f*ckin worth it."

Whose freedom, who's paying the price and who's deciding who's paying the price for who's freedom?

One thing for sure Teneng, it won't be the likes of you who's paying the price for 'freedom'. Those who are so keen on this war should at least join up, go to the front line and risk taking a bullet or two. at least then you'd have the choice about risking your neck, the innocent civilians of Baghdad have no such choice when allied bombs start dropping. The likes of you Teneng think its fine to kill thousands of civilians in the cause of 'freedom', unless of course those civilians include yourself, your family and your friends. If this war was likely to result in over 100,000 dead American civilians I suspect you'd be somewhat less supportive.

If you support the war then at least go and fucking fight in it as an infantry soldier yourself.
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
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Post Number: 830
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Monday, March 3, 2003 - 1:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

the fact is sadam is a piece of shit that doesnt deserve to live.



That doesn't mean it's a good idea for us to be the ones to kill him. Kim Jong-Il probably deserves to die too, but if we went after him, Seoul would be a smoldering pile of rubble before we had half a chance.

There are LOTS of vicious dictators in the world. We can't overthrow them all, and if we were to try, Saddam wouldn't even be near the top of the list. The fact is, we've tolerated and even ALLIED ourselves with people FAR worse than Saddam, and continue to do so.
Uncle (Uncle)
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Username: Uncle

Post Number: 80
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Monday, March 3, 2003 - 6:22 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I liked better when we talked about 17-live! War BAD. Naked teengirls GOOD. G.W. going to do what ever G.W. wants. Remember "He tryed to kill my Daddy!!!" so kick back have a cold drink and watch it snow in the desert for 40 years.OH! yeah! don't forget to get your duct tape!
Absinthe Queen of Reviews (Head_prosthesis)
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Post Number: 1715
Registered: 1-2001


Posted on Sunday, March 2, 2003 - 10:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


quote:

there is always a price to freedom, and its f*ckin worth it.




GO JOE!!! He'll fight for freedom where ever there's trouble...

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gary kiger (Teneng)
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 2, 2003 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"He is a vicious, murdering dictator,"

you said it right there, man. ill bet there are people in iraq that would love to have the freedom to say what you just did. the fact is sadam is a piece of shit that doesnt deserve to live. and you might bring up the point that alot of people might die, alot of iraqis might die.

there is always a price to freedom, and its f*ckin worth it.

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