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Heathen Beaner (Emmy)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Emmy

Post Number: 89
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 6:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

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Crosby (Crosby)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Crosby

Post Number: 445
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 6:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Now you're really kissing up. True though.
C'est ma santé
mattm3 (Mattm3)
le Duc
Username: Mattm3

Post Number: 127
Registered: 4-2003


Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 6:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Oh God, that is my downfall, girls with glasses! Add red hair and I'm in love.
When is the free booze giveaway? (Celticgent)
le Vicomte
Username: Celticgent

Post Number: 71
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 2:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

That Oedipus was a motherfucker!

I digs me some girls in glasses as well. It's the whole "I look like I'm prim and proper but you know I'm a dirty, dirty girl" type thing.
In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: _blackjack_

Post Number: 925
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 1:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

My librarian fetish is probably classically Freudian, since my mother is a librarian.

And I just dig girls in glasses...
When is the free booze giveaway? (Celticgent)
le Vicomte
Username: Celticgent

Post Number: 69
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 9:49 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

We've got trouble...right here in River City!

nope. actually I avoided the tv version exactly for that reason. I too like him, but in the little whiny neurotic roles he usually plays.

(Still blaming The Music Man for my librarian fetish............)
In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: _blackjack_

Post Number: 921
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 5:29 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dammit! You beat me to it!

Did anybody see the new Matthew Broderick made-for-tv version? I like MB and all, but he's just not...sexually menacing enough to play Harold Hill...
When is the free booze giveaway? (Celticgent)
le Vicomte
Username: Celticgent

Post Number: 67
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 2:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Heaven help us, if the library caught on fire And the volunteer hose brigade men
Had to whisper the news to Marian
Madam Librarian


In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
Marc Chevalier (Chevalier)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: Chevalier

Post Number: 1229
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 10:09 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Librarians Love The Hello Kitty "Personal Massager"!
-- Uncle M
Melinda Mattison (Auntieminda)
Paysan
Username: Auntieminda

Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 9:44 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Actually, Memphis Shelby County Public Library and Information Center, (In Tennessee, Ya'll), where I work, does not attach the names to the records after the books have been returned. The minute a book is returned, the patron's name and account is no longer associated with that book. We still know how many times a book has checked out, but we no longer have a record of who checked it out. The system has worked that way since before I started work here over three years ago.

We used to keep logs of who was on the computer-- this was because we signed people up in advance for computer time. Now, post-patriot act, we no longer sign people up in advance. We take first come first serve at the top of each hour, and only take initials just so we know how many people have signed up per day, and which computers have people assigned to them and which don't.

Librarians Fight The Power!
--Auntie M
Pervert Euchre (Perruche_verte)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Perruche_verte

Post Number: 431
Registered: 12-2000


Posted on Tuesday, April 8, 2003 - 11:40 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yes, you'll note that I mentioned that. But there's no reason to attach specific NAMES to the use of particular materials. It ought to be sufficient to say that record X was accessed Y number of times, without impinging on anyone's privacy.
"Drink accomplished what God did not." --Marguerite Duras
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: _blackjack_

Post Number: 897
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Tuesday, April 8, 2003 - 11:37 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

In part, to track demand so that they can make decisions about the content of the collection. Unless you're the LOC, you don't have the luxury to collect EVERYTHING. You have to decide what books to buy, journals to collect, etc., based on the purpose of the library and the needs of the patrons.
Pataphysician (Pataphysician)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Pataphysician

Post Number: 514
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 8, 2003 - 8:22 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Librarians, like Germans, are born recordkeepers. Theirs is not to reason why, theirs is but to keep records and die.
Pervert Euchre (Perruche_verte)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Perruche_verte

Post Number: 430
Registered: 12-2000


Posted on Monday, April 7, 2003 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Santa Cruz is now shredding their written info requests daily, and they're trying to reduce the amount of data they store on individual patrons, in order to comply to the letter of the law without actually having much useful to hand over.

Which makes me wonder: why do libraries need those records anyway? Aside from tracking overdue materials and keeping record of which materials are actually used, they don't need a record that Joe Blow checked out a book of physics experiments in 1998.
"Drink accomplished what God did not." --Marguerite Duras
Carl Guderian (Bjacques)
le Duc
Username: Bjacques

Post Number: 216
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 10:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Kramerbooks, a store in D.C. (just off Dupont Circle, has a decent cafe open all weekend), finally won that case. In the mean time, they did a brisk bsuiness in subpoena T-shirts. The book was "Vox," by Nicholson Baker.
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
Absinthe Mafia
Username: _blackjack_

Post Number: 875
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 5:58 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Oh, they already routinely subpoena bookstore purchase records. The bookseller's association made a fuss about it for a while, but with little effect. During the Monica Lewinski absurdity, they went after the records of her book purchases to see if she was buying gifts for the president, or some such nonsense...

Rule of thumb: when buying subversive literature, pay cash.
Lordhobgoblin (Lordhobgoblin)
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Username: Lordhobgoblin

Post Number: 723
Registered: 10-2000


Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 2:05 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Perhaps legislation should be introduced where a person is required by law to register their book purchase (showing of course proof of name and address) on a national database via the shop's computer before being allowed to buy a book? That would keep all those dangerous Muslim, Commie, anti-American types in check.

Forget gun control. You need book control. Tighter legislation with a custodial sentence for being caught in possession of an un-licensed book.
Absinthe Queen of Reviews (Head_prosthesis)
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Username: Head_prosthesis

Post Number: 3234
Registered: 1-2001


Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 8:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

You know, John King in Detroit used to
have Show Me! You're on the right
track, I think the used book store
is your best bet.


http://www.rarebooklink.com/

Pata-P is the DUKE! Duke a' New York. HE'S "A" NUMBER ONE!!!
Darrin, Stalker of Head (Traineraz)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Traineraz

Post Number: 875
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 7:19 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I guess I'll just have to BUY my war books at the used bookstore and pay cash from now on.

DAMMIT!
Alphasoixante (Alphasoixante)
le Vicomte
Username: Alphasoixante

Post Number: 97
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 6:40 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

now, now. let's not exagerrate. they would never
arrest someone based solely on the books they check out.

the library information is used to decide whose homes will be searched without warrants, sillies.
Dr. O (Dr_ordinaire)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Dr_ordinaire

Post Number: 454
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 6:30 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Add to that "The Protocols of the Sages of Sion" and you become an "enemy reader", with no Constitutional protections.
Lordhobgoblin (Lordhobgoblin)
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Username: Lordhobgoblin

Post Number: 720
Registered: 10-2000


Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 1:31 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I wonder what sort of book combination would be likely to have a person put under investigation?

Would borrowing a copy of the Qu'ran in conjunction with a copy of Clausewitz's 'On War' be likely to result in your sudden arrest and dentention?
Pataphysician (Pataphysician)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Pataphysician

Post Number: 495
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 8:41 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I find it hilarious that Bush feels the need to dick around on this issue. Why doesn't he just ban those dangerous books before the bad guys can get a hold of them? Would that be so out of line for him?
Jack Collins (_blackjack_)
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Username: _blackjack_

Post Number: 873
Registered: 11-2000


Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 4:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

This is one that really irks me, as the son of a librarian, and which has been getting very little attention from the supposedly-liberal media. The way the law works, in practice, is that the FBI can get a "secret warrant" from a closed court which has virtually no accountability. Librarians are required to hand over any records if asked, and are forbidden UNDER CRIMINAL PENALTY to reveal even that such a warrent was ever served. The warrants do not require probable cause, just "reasonable suspicion", a far weaker standard. And even if they DID require probable cause, since the court preceedings are secret, nobody would know.
Darrin, Stalker of Head (Traineraz)
Elitist Bastard
Username: Traineraz

Post Number: 873
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 2:56 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

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