Sepulchritude Forum: The Absinthe Forum Archives Thru July 2001: Beltane
By Dr_Ordinaire on Friday, May 04, 2001 - 10:54 am: Edit

Huzzah for Beltane!

My beloved and I will be celebrating it with Pagan friends at Isis Oasis in Geyserville, CA. and I will take some Green Fairy with me.

It never ceases to delight me how instantly popular I become in a Pagan crowd when I "manifest" a bottle of the green elixir. Well, it's to be expected. After all, is there a more Pagan drink than absinthe?

OK, wine, mead and ale all have strong Pagan credentials, but what attracts witches like flies is absinthe!

My pet theory is that Dyonisos gave us the wine because he drank all his absinthe on his way from the Indus...

So, eat, drink (absinthe), make love and be merry.

Blessed be!


By Heiko on Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:22 am: Edit

I just found this on the web - it's a little late for this beltane, but think about it for the next one ;-)
dont drink and fly

By Don_Walsh on Friday, May 04, 2001 - 07:36 am: Edit

Heiko and Andy I had not considered the national-socialist acronym, I was just thinking from the kink perspective. (and just as I started typing this Wagner's Die Meistersinger came on the radio...)

Midas, I meant no aspersion on the Segarra NS, which I have not tried but I hear only good things about. I was only engaging in a cheap seguay off the NS.

By Midas on Friday, May 04, 2001 - 07:07 am: Edit

Don, in telemarketing abbreviations, NS stands for "Not Suitable".
The opposite is true however. It's not bad at all.

By Heiko on Friday, May 04, 2001 - 05:50 am: Edit

Aion, you're right - I guess it would sell pretty good in the east of Germany, maybe with the label a little more gothic... oh, I forgot the fascist scum is mostly out of work, so all they can buy is cheap beer - hahahaha!!!!

Brspiritus, as the silly moral ideas of the cristian church are about to vanish completely, you can have a free relationship without even marrying at all - what's the need of a "year and a day" marriage then?
btw the moral attitude of the christian church got more and more ridiculous over time. Recently, German churches were "shocked" by the idea of a hospital to build a facility which gives women the chance to anonymously give their newborn free for adoption. Don't they know they "recruited" half of their monks and nuns the same way back in the middle ages?
---end of rant - even I would love to go on... ;-)

By Aion on Friday, May 04, 2001 - 02:00 am: Edit

If you are German speaking "NS" reminds you of something totally different first.
As association with a drink you are absolutely right, but maybe the this name describes the quality of the product best.

By Don_Walsh on Thursday, May 03, 2001 - 11:53 pm: Edit

I hate to tell you guys but in Germany, NS is the nickname or acronym for piss, in certain circles. The phrase translates to 'Nature's Champagne'.

So I would have a hard time, knowing this, to market a liqueur under these initials. At lerast with a straight face.

By Brspiritus on Thursday, May 03, 2001 - 07:24 pm: Edit

Forgive me for jumping in to an old post but I always found the Celtic "year and a day marriages" to be a pretty good idea. It lets the couple have the time to figure out if they are ment to be together or not. As for the whole Beltane thing, I've been a solitary Wiccan for 10 years now and dancing naked in the woods just isn't the same alone. Of course it might give the neighbours something to talk about :-)

By _Blackjack on Thursday, May 03, 2001 - 02:00 pm: Edit


It seems that in the UK you can exercise your right to peacefull protest so long as the the views you are voicing are in line with Government policy.

"You have the right
To free speech!
As long as you're not
Dumb enough to actually try it!
Know your rights!
These are your rights!"

--The Clash

By Lordhobgoblin on Thursday, May 03, 2001 - 12:16 pm: Edit

London, the capital of democracy. Exercise your right of peacefull demonstration and our noble and fair police-force (unholders of democracy of course) illegally force thousands of demonstrators to be packed into Oxford Street for up to 12 hours without toilet facilities, food or water. They will only let you out if you supply them with ID and give your full address (these details no doubt go onto a database of 'undesirable' persons, along with any photographs that happened to be taken). There actions were totally illegal, (but then it is OK for the police to break the law when it suits). Home Secretary Jack Straw is no doubt proud of how the police responded.

It seems that in the UK you can exercise your right to peacefull protest so long as the the views you are voicing are in line with Government policy. Protests against globalisation most certainly cannot be tolerated.

This response from the police seems to be happening more often now that we have a 'Labour' government (ironic that only a decade ago our now government ministers would themselves have been involved in such protests). When Tibetans tried to hold a very peaceful protest during a Chinese (who are decent sorts nowadays of course) State visit to London, the police forcefully took their placards from them because our esteemed Chinese visitors might be offended to see slogans concerning Tibet. Tibetans (who have suffered terribly from Chinese oppression and have something to legitimately protest against) were set upon and beaten to the ground by the police for exercising their legal right to peacefully demonstrate. This was necessary because we must of course respect cultural differences, and in Chinese culture such demonstrations are of course considered to be bad manners. As such we certainly cannot tolerate such rudeness.

It's great to know you live in a 'Democracy'.


By Mr_Rabbit on Wednesday, May 02, 2001 - 02:30 pm: Edit

Morrigan, poop on em if they pooh pooh you.

Let fly- that sounds like a very interesting discussion.

:::Mr Rabbit arms his Poop Launcher, takes aim in the crowd's general direction:::

By Morriganlefey on Wednesday, May 02, 2001 - 09:55 am: Edit

Frater & Midas -

I envy you both that it is Samhain in Oz! Samhain is the season I find the most powerful. Really enjoyed the description of your eve of dark indulgences!

I, too, enjoy the study of the ritual applications of absinthe, (and would have discussed it more here, but fear of "poo-pooing" by some forumites dissuades me!)

Samhain, Beltane - it's a powerful time of year where ever you are!

- M

By Absinthedrinker on Wednesday, May 02, 2001 - 08:43 am: Edit

Bob -that was irony

By Bob_Chong on Wednesday, May 02, 2001 - 07:55 am: Edit

London is the "capital of democracy"? Curious.

By Midas on Wednesday, May 02, 2001 - 06:35 am: Edit

Jonathan is right, we did have a very fulfilling Samhain.
And Jonathan, thank you, thank you, thank you. After last night, I feel so much more "on the right path"(maybe a slightly innacurate turn of phrase).
I'll email you later.
ps- NS really is quite drinkable.

By Heiko on Wednesday, May 02, 2001 - 06:20 am: Edit

Well, the Chinese are probably used to something like that and will report their fellow countrymen how friendly the riot police was: "Imagine this: they didn't even beat us!" ;-)

Berlin must have been nice, too: the annual leftist demonstration (which usually ends in broken windows and burning cars) wasn't permitted this year while they allowed a demonstration by the fascist party NPD - I think this is called intelligent de-escalation tactics...
If you looked like a leftist the nazis beat you up, if you looked like a Nazi the leftists got you, and no matter what you looked like you were imprisoned by police - if you stayed at home, only your car was set on fire...
One day in the year where I don't regret not to live in Berlin ;-)

By Absinthedrinker on Wednesday, May 02, 2001 - 02:19 am: Edit

This May day eve was a bit of a wash out. Although I would regard myself as an atheist rather than a pagan I don't let that stop me celebrating the significant dates from the old calender, and May day eve is normally a good excuse for a bonfire to get rid of the winter detritus from my garden. However this year it has been so wet that I would have obscured the whole neighbourhood if I had lit one, so it went sadly unmarked. May day itself was a little more lively as my London office is quite close to Oxford Street where several unsuspecting foreign tourists were unlawfully detained by several thousand riot police for eight hours in the rain. I felt particularly sorry for the Chinese tourists that had nipped out to buy some postcards of the capital of democracy to send back to their less fortunate repressed relatives back home.

By Frater_Carfax on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 10:40 pm: Edit

Well of course it is Samhain here in Oz, pouring with rain and a perfect evening to be indoors....

so Robert (Midas) and I partook in a couple of glasses of NS, put on some dark ambient soundscapes, lit a few candles, stoked the incense and indulged in an evening of scrying in my black mirror- a most fulfilling evening!

I have definitely developed an interest in the potential ritual applications of absinthe....


By Perruche_Verte on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 09:45 pm: Edit

Today I marched in the streets with a few hundred other people to celebrate the season and the day.
It was glorious!

And I hope the rest of you did something fun too.

By Melinelly on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 06:37 pm: Edit

mel and i have both taken today, the international workers' holiday, off from work... although mainly because it's our anniversary =)... so we're more likely to be out in the woods today than in the streets heh.

By Tlautrec on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 04:44 pm: Edit

Lyet us nott forgett, comrades, that May Day is also great people's holiday....arise ye workers of starvation....

By Artemis on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 04:31 pm: Edit

Here's more:

An angry Puritan (circa 1640) wrote about "setting the May" that:

"men 'doe use commonly to runne into woodes in the night time, amongst maidens, to set bowes, in so muche, as I have hearde of tenne maidens whiche went to set May, and nine of them came home with childe."

Kipling wrote:

Oh, do not tell the Priest our plight,
Or he would call it a sin;
But we have been out in the woods all night,
A-conjuring Summer in!

By Morriganlefey on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 04:20 pm: Edit

Kismet, Artemis. At the same time you were posting this thread, I was entering the following in my online diary. I even included a reference to The Wicker Man. (Forgive my being verbose here, but for the unitiated, here is the "down & dirty" on Beltane):

Today is Beltane!! Beltane, or “May Day”, is the 5th sabbat on the pagan calendar and one of it’s greatest festivals, long celebrated with feasts and rituals. The word “Beltane” means fire of Bel (for the Celtic god of light Bel, Beli or Belinus. He, in turn, can be traced to the Middle Eastern god Baal). As summer begins, the weather becomes warmer, the plant world blooms, and an exuberant mood prevails.

The actual Beltane celebration begins at sundown on April 30, because the Celts always figured their days from sundown to sundown. Sundown was the proper time for Druids to kindle the great Bel-fires on the tops of the nearest hill. These 'need-fires' had healing properties, and sky-clad Witches would jump through the flames to ensure protection.

Sgt. Howie (shocked): 'But they are naked!'

Lord Summerisle: 'Naturally. It's much too dangerous to jump through the fire with your clothes on!'

--from "The Wicker Man"

Frequently, cattle would be driven between two such bon-fires (oak wood was the favorite fuel for them) and the next morning taken to their summer pastures.
In old Celtic traditions it was a time of unabashed sexuality, where marriages of a year and a day could be undertaken (though it is rarely observed in that manner in modern times!) Young people would spend the entire night in the woods "a-maying," and then dance around the Maypole the next morning. Older married couples were allowed to remove their wedding rings (and the restrictions they imply) for this one night.

May morning is a magical time for wild water (dew, flowing streams, and springs) which is collected and used to bathe in for beauty, life, health and prosperity for the coming year.

Naked witches, flaming cows, frenzied dancing and unabashed sexuality – count me in….

- Morrigan

By Petermarc on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 02:44 pm: Edit

it's easier to find the absinthe than the movie, so i went with least we get the day off...i'm with hobgoblin on the cold thing...what the hell is with this weather? it's just supposed to suck in england, not france, too...

By Lordhobgoblin on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 12:33 pm: Edit


It's not that I'm indisposed to outdoor fornication, it's only that outdoor fornication in New Orleans in May might be quite pleasant whereas outdoor fornication in England in May is bloody cold. My own Maypole is staying indoors for a few months.


By Rimbaud on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 12:06 pm: Edit


I actually own a copy of The Wicker Man and did indeed watch it a few weeks ago. A very interesting film. Especially the part where Britt Ekland does that sexy little naked dance and seduces Edward Woodward through the wall. As far as outdoor fornication, I have no objections whatsoever!!!

~21st Century Rimbaud

By Artemis on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 11:39 am: Edit

Hooray, Hooray, the first of May,
Outdoor fucking begins today!

For our brethren on the other side of the world, May Day having alreadly gone by, I say there is still time - Old Beltane (by the Sun crossing 15 degrees Taurus) is actually next Saturday.

For those indisposed to outdoor fornication, I prescribe a dose of absinthe and the movie (if you can find it), "The Wicker Man" to catch the spirit of the thing.

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