Recent article on Absinthe

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By Pikkle on Friday, February 08, 2002 - 08:59 am: Edit

Well you enjoy yourself, that's what we're all here for!

By Lmarchegrisiste on Friday, February 08, 2002 - 07:33 am: Edit

Most of our positions are actually the same. What I am saying that is different is that you can't call "Absente" garbage objectively. You can say that it is not absinthe by the generally accepted definition, it is pastis. Both absinthe and pastis are too broad categories not to recognize good and bad within them but one is not objectively better than the other. Likewise Pernod is no longer absinthe. An new subjective argument could be wheteher Pernod is better pastis than Absente.

I like my car and boat analogy. I know there is a defining difference but some parts are frequently the same. I know people whose inboard boats are powered by car engines and of people who saved the wheel and knobs from their boat for their car. What would be wrong is trying to pass off such a boat as a car or a car as a boat.

If someone wanted to be generous beyond call they could send the liquor store owner a 20. Educate by word or product don't insult.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 11:52 pm: Edit

Um... absente is a pastis which is not, as defined by the majority on this board an absinthe due to the exclusion of artemisia absinthium. A '79 Pinto was a cheaply made economical alternative to the much larger gas guzzling luxury automobiles of the day, therefore not qualifying as a luxury automobile. You can drink them both, you can drive them both but they do not class the same. I therefore believe I was correct in my allusions... please read carefully next time and if something is confusing to you, just ask, we're all here to help.

By Lmarchegrisiste on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 11:40 pm: Edit

Bad comparison Pikkle. There is a square matrix with good and bad on one axis and defining ingredient on the other. A genuine Artemisia Absinthium containing absinthe can be crap. With one axis being % of AA and the other being good and bad "Absente" is middling in quality and near zero in alledged defining ingredient. I would have no problem serving it but would have to explain that as absinthe it is what zero tastes like.

If you are using auto allusions it is as though you had gone to a dealer on impulse after hearing about driving and been handed a boat.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 11:16 pm: Edit

Absente is to absinthes what a '79 Ford Pinto is to luxury driving... please get a clue, quickly.

By Lmarchegrisiste on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 11:03 pm: Edit

"Absente" is actually a decent pastis. Herbal liquers are often blends with the difference being the defining top note. "Absente" lacks it seems the defining top note for a real absinthe. It is still better to educate than insult.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 10:51 pm: Edit

Okay, this is a totally evasive response the the email I sent to that weenie who wrote the article about the store in Pennsylvania that was selling the absinthe... I asked him merely the name of the absinthe this store was claiming to sell, easy enough question for a a third grade journalist, don't you think? This really does deserve a first class lynching...


Mr. Jablomi,

"The ingredients aren't ever listed on the bottle, but I'm willing to bet
that the product sold over in Europe is the same that we put out here,"
Pettina said. "Producers are basically using the 'absinthe' name to sell
it."

Thanks for reading.

--Mike

So I issued a reply... quite nasty to be honest... I'll keep all updated.

By Tavarua on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 08:06 pm: Edit

Whoah, slow down. You're gonna pikkle your liva.

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:35 pm: Edit

I'll probably be up and out. In the words of one of my hero Shane MacGowan's songs:
And so fuck off to bed.

Get my e-mail from Head. This has gotta bore the shit outtah everyone else.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:30 pm: Edit

Be back for this conversation soon, at work, gotta go make sure all the steel going in the right direction...

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:30 pm: Edit

Coleman and Billy! The boxing match. Gimme a fuckin' Faygo!

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:27 pm: Edit

If you know the right cops, they'll sell you drugs too... I've obtained them indirectly that way. The city's rep has gone straight down hill since the '67 riots and the great white flight that followed. Coleman A. Young did absolutely nothing but further pilfer that poor town for his own cause. I'll never forget the time Bill Bonds challenged Coleman Young to a boxing match on the six o'clock news. What a great drunk Billy was... does commercials for Art Van now.

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:23 pm: Edit

I remember leaving the fireworks on the 4th from Hart Plaza about 15 years ago. We were on the rail, right up to the river, so we were in the last bunch to leave. Drunks, drunks, drunks.
The cops, God bless 'em, were in groups of 4 or 5 under the streetlights, w/pitchblack no-man's land inbetween. At least they felt safe.
Gee, how'd the town get such a bad rep?
Not to mention the time I was asked to pull my pants down on the street by a pair of cops.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:18 pm: Edit

I just keep thinking about that scene in True Romance when Christian Slater hails a cab after going to see some kung foo movies... in the immortal words of one of my techie buddies watching Star Trek - "THAT COULD NEVER, EVER HAPPEN!" You know why? Cabs don't stop for you in Detroit, not even in downtown... and there's no where to go there anyway, except if you want to go look at the burned out buildings across the street from all the new casinos they just built. Now there's a tourist attraction!

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:13 pm: Edit

They had the same work ethic in Lansing too. I was delivering pizzas for Domino's, and couldn't figger what was wrong w/the chick crossing the street's neck. Must have a crick or sumpthin'.
Oh, now I get it! She's wavin' me in for a $$ landing by cocking (so to speak) her head towards the parking lot.
"Yeah, these deliveries can wait. Hi, hon just sit on these nice warm pies 'til I park."

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:09 pm: Edit

Yeah, I made the mistake one time (never do this, ever) of making eye contact with one of those toothless beauties... man did she make a b-line straight for the ole F-150. Luckily the light changed. What a guy will go through for some fried pierogis...

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:09 pm: Edit

I need to get back up there and hook up w/you jockeys for a tour. I haven't been there since me and the missus worked for Ho Lee Chow in A.A. a decade ago.

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:07 pm: Edit

My God, what a city!!! The more things change, the more they aren't any fuckin' different really.
Or something.
I like the wig-heater imagery.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:06 pm: Edit

I think you might be thinking of "Little Saigon" in Inkster... a charming little neighborhood off Michigan ave west past Taylor... many a cop has been shot at there, several killed, a couple of hotels have been blown up. They did sadly enough close the Melody Theater... Head can tell you all about that one.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:05 pm: Edit

I suppose in it's own way it's great... my favorite place to eat is this little polish place with the unlikely name of Starlight, on Michigan ave just past Central. There's no such thing as a fair weather hooker here. I went out for chow some horrid blizzard day last January and there they were, huddled next to a bus stop sign, more than eager to share their wares for a chance at ten dollars in crack and having a floor heater blowing full blast on their wigs. Do you know it's legal to blow a red in Detroit? Well not really but it's cheaper than getting your car impounded for soliciting a prostitute...

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 07:00 pm: Edit

Is that past 8 mile?

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 06:59 pm: Edit

Oh lord, I've never seen a place as bad since Beirut in '82...

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 06:57 pm: Edit

And it's been baked downtown since '67.

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 06:55 pm: Edit

People can't even imagine, can they Pikkle Player?

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 06:53 pm: Edit

Hahahaha... Trapper's Alley, for all intents and purposes is no more... there's a casino there now, one of three, the revitilization of Detroit is well under way with a 31 year old mayor, lot's of gambling, drugs, theft, murder, graft... it all wouldn't be so bad if there was even a few places to go downtown but that too is a ghost town. My advice to all sane and like minded persons - NEVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY SHE OFFERS YOU, GO TO DETROIT!!! YOU'LL DIE OR WISH YOU DID!!!!

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 05:56 pm: Edit

Actually, I rarely go to the Wine and Spirits Shoppe. What do they have that I don't get from overseas, and will make me an epileptic according to WNBC?
Nuttin'.

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 05:54 pm: Edit

You and I are, but just a teensy, teensy part of it.

By Mr_Rabid on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 05:51 pm: Edit

Sigh.

I wish I was the largest purchaser of liquor in the world.

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 05:48 pm: Edit

Whatever happened to Trapper's Alley? I have BAD memories of that joint.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 05:47 pm: Edit

and Cobo Joe's!

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 05:26 pm: Edit

Come to Detroit, before they tear down every single abandoned building. Leaving-not much. Except by the river.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 05:22 pm: Edit

Pikkle's Board of Tourism:

Come to Detroit
Never Leave
The End.
(cue the tiny violins)

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 05:15 pm: Edit

Pikkle's Board of Tourism,
The Mitten is fine, but the east of Pa be finah still.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 04:29 pm: Edit

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the mitten!

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 03:02 pm: Edit

Left it, ain't goin' back.

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 02:59 pm: Edit

What better state to live in than the one with your right hand palm out?

By Louched_Liver on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 12:49 pm: Edit

Here in Pa. the state runs the liquor stores. In fact, they are the largest purchaser or liquor in the world. I can't imagine that the state is going to bring in real absinthe. Shit, if it will by special order, like the article says, to hell w/Spirits Corner for us lucky Pennsylvanians!

Realising I live in the bestest state there is,
LL

By Chevalier on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 12:29 pm: Edit

Hey, it's a better article than the WNBC piece. The college reporters read the Absinthe Forum FAQ.

By Pablo on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 12:57 am: Edit

Hey, Im going by his liquor store this weekend and rob the place at gun point. Take everything EXCEPT his absente.

Then Im gonna hit him in the balls!

(Pablo has been violent lately. Pablo needs a woman!)

By Pikkle on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 12:09 am: Edit

Fuck him... everyone should write him an email to tell him what a fucking chump he is! More fucking idiots in the world, when will stupid people stop breeding??? Oh shit, then I'd have to wash my own dishes... never mind.

By Petermarc on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 12:03 am: Edit

it's absente...game over...

By Pikkle on Wednesday, February 06, 2002 - 11:08 pm: Edit

It's okay, I whipped off a nasty email to him too... tell us the name of this "absinthe" or we will come for you!!! Whaahahahahaaa!!!!

By _Blackjack on Wednesday, February 06, 2002 - 10:17 pm: Edit

Who wants to bet the stuff the liquor store stocks is Absente...?

By Scanion on Wednesday, February 06, 2002 - 10:11 pm: Edit

Recent article on Absinthe. It is in the Daily Collegian, a Penn State student newspaper.

A liquor store claims to stock it. The article references this forum.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2002/01/01-17-02tdc/01-17-02dnews-03.asp

There is a picture at the end of the article, can someone identify the brand of Absinthe?

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