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Posted by: Oxygenee Mar 2 2005, 01:47 PM

I've noticed several comments here along the lines of "I'm too new/inexperienced to rate it properly, but this is what I think of the new Jade Edouard".

Nonsense! Anyone can submit a scoresheet. One of the advantages of the system is that it provides a framework for even a novice to meaningfully rate a particular absinthe.

The aim is for the Buyers Guide scores to reflect a consensus position, based on many scoresheets, rather than just the judgement of a handful of experts.

You can post your scoresheet results online here on the Forum, or you can email them to me. I can keep your evaluation entirely anonymous if you prefer. The more I receive, from all classes of tasters, the more accurate and meaningful the overall results will be.

So please, don't hold back. Evaluate the new Jade Edouard (and of course Tuivel's Montmartre, and the spate of new La Bleues, and Phil's latest offerings, and whatever else you are drinking) in terms of the new scoresheet. Post the results here. Alternatively email them directly to me.

As soon as we start to build up a meaningful database of results, I'll start to post a regular league table of the highest scoring absinthes. At the moment only two have been properly rated:

Jade Nouvelle Orleans:84
La Fee: 63

If you haven't already downloaded it, here is the full scoresheet:


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Posted by: hartsmar Mar 2 2005, 01:50 PM

Oxy, how about using the score on other sites? ie I rate the Edouard using the FeeVerte scoresheet, and post the result here. I would then want to post the score along with a link here, with my other "regular" review and reference guide at my site... Something along the line of "FeeVerte.net score sheet result: XX pts"

No problemo?




Posted by: Oxygenee Mar 2 2005, 01:55 PM

Of course, absolutely no problem - in fact the whole idea is to work towards the Fee Verte scoring system becoming the de facto industry standard.

Posted by: Oxygenee Mar 2 2005, 01:58 PM

For those who want to email me their scores as an MS Word attachment, here is the basic scoresheet in Word format:



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Posted by: hartsmar Mar 2 2005, 02:04 PM

Great, since this was a thing I was planning on starting on... tonight... He he.

Edit: The league of highest scoring absinthes, would that be an average of all collected ranks on each absinthe? For instance if three people rank the Jade Nouvelle-Orléans, at 78, 83 and 92 points. Would the rank presented in the list be the average of those three (84)?

Posted by: Oxygenee Mar 2 2005, 02:25 PM

QUOTE (hartsmar @ Mar 2 2005, 05:04 PM)
The league of highest scoring absinthes, would that be an average of all collected ranks on each absinthe? For instance if three people rank the Jade Nouvelle-Orléans, at 78, 83 and 92 points. Would the rank presented in the list be the average of those three (84)?

Yes, that is in principle exactly how it would work.

In very rare cases I might exclude a particular scoresheet if it seems completely out of line with the broad consensus: eg if a particular absinthe attracts ratings in the 60 to 80 range, with an average of 70 points, I might exclude a scoresheet giving it 30 points, or 99 points. The reason for this is not to distort the average score with ratings that are frivolous, or obviously motivated by a personal agenda.

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 2 2005, 02:48 PM

Naturally.

Great!

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 2 2005, 03:23 PM

O.K. here goes...

Jade Edouard

Color before water... clear, very vivid but completely natural green - 10.

Louche Action...the louche is slow and steady, not too extreme, near perfect - 9.

Color after water...A good deal of the vivid green is retained after louching, The final product is a pale minty green color that resembles some of the finer renderings of quality pre-ban absinthes - 9.

Aroma...neat...green anise is the most obvious scent, with wormwood in the background. There is a bit of a "burnt" background, as well, though some less evident than it is in the Jade Verte Suisse. I don't find this a major detraction, however. To me, it gives the Edouard almost an "aged" character, and it is by no means obtrusive - 12.

...louched...the burnt quality fades completely, and the aroma opens up to reveal a complex melange of anise, fennel and hyssop, the overall impression is "floral baby powder" that fills a room. Very appetizing! - 14.

Overall aroma score - 23.

Mouthfeel...this is perhaps the best aspect of the Edouard. It is velvety, rich, and mouth-coating.
Absolutely wonderful - 10.

Taste... Anise is dominant, as expected, but this is no anise-bomb. There is plenty of fennel, which imparts a very subtle fruitiness, and even more quality hyssop that gives the Edouard a lively, "baby powder" finish, which blends perfectly with the underpinning of minty wormword. This continues into a VERY long, savory finish that compells one to start the sipping process all over again. For me, this is a nearly perfect flavor, marred only very slightly by a wee bit of a burnt component that has carried over from the aroma - 19.

Overall impression...this Edouard is not too far from flawless, except for the aforementioned VERY SLIGHT burnt characteristic. It is, without doubt, my favorite commercial absinthe, to date - 9.

Total Score...92.

Posted by: Oxygenee Mar 2 2005, 03:33 PM

Great, thanks Absomphe.

Keep 'em coming....and not just Edouard, but anything else you're tasting at the moment, good or bad.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 2 2005, 04:06 PM

Your quite welcome, Oxy!

The only other absinthe I'm presently tasting is the Nouvelle Orleans, so I'll give that a go...

Color Before Water...A deep green that also has a bluish tinge. Not as vivid as the Edouard, it is a nice, rich color, but I find the bluish tone to be a little odd - 8.

Louche Action...slow and steady, a good louche, a very good louche, but not superlative - 8.

Color After Water...Pale bluish green, nice, but as in the case of the pre-louche, I would have preferred to see a more vivid green tone - 8.

Aroma (neat)...Very interesting and different nose, which reminds me of Old Bay meets a spicy Christmas Ale. There is an element of funk, which tends to clear up as the absinthe "breathes". This gets points for creativity, and originality, but as with the flavor, how much I enjoy it depends upon my mood - 10.

Aroma (louched)...Very similar to the neat scent, except that it opens up nicely, and becomes more rounded and appealing. No funk present - 12.

Mouthfeel...substantial, but not as rich and mouthcoating as the Edouard. Still, very nice body, more silky than velvety - 8.

Taste...the Old Bay/Christmas ale aspect carries over into the flavor. Plenty of fennel, and a decent helping of anise, but the wormwood is much more subtle than it is in the Edouard, or the Verte Suisse, so there is less of that dry mintiness in the finish. The "baby powder" flavor is also more muted here, and while the flavor is savory and interesting, there isn't the same compelling urge to go on to the next sip, unless I'm particularly in the mood for this unique flavor - 16.

Overall Impression...Definitely a one-of-a-kind absinthe, which is well crafted, and desrves points for originality. Not my favorite, but when I'm in the mood, it satisfies a flavor niche that no other absinthe can quite fill - 7.

Total...77.

Posted by: sixela Mar 2 2005, 04:13 PM

QUOTE (Oxygenee @ Mar 2 2005, 04:58 PM)
For those who want to email me their scores as an MS Word attachment, here is the basic scoresheet in Word format:

Silly, you can't attach anything to emails through this site (though it's not hard to find your email address in the Virtual Absinthe Museum, of course).

Coming in your mail, the three sisters.

Summary:

Jade NO: 76
Jade VdS, aged sufficiently: 88
Jade Edouard: 93

Your system is a bit harsh on the NO, though: it's idiosyncratic and the colour and louche are what makes it lose points, but I still think it's very good and at times prefer it over the VdS (when I'm in the mood for it).

If you'd have asked me months ago, though, it would have beaten the VdS on taste and aroma, because that VdS distiller's proof was very young with very overpowering green anise.

Same thing in reverse for the Edouard: given its colour, it takes top honours easily over the others, even though I can understand someone liking the more 'masculine' character of the VdS.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 2 2005, 04:53 PM

I think the Edouard manges to be very "masculine" and "feminine", at the same time.

There is even more of that wormwood goodness that comes through in the finish, as well as that talc-like hyssop thing...it is by no means as soft and smooth as the NO.

However, everything is so rounded and balanced that it has a great deal of finesse, even young.

I sure hope it ages well, at which point I'll most likely bankrupt myself.

Posted by: DenSetsu Mar 2 2005, 04:57 PM

I'm already planning on doing that myself abs-cheers.gif

Posted by: Oxygenee Mar 2 2005, 06:02 PM

QUOTE (sixela @ Mar 2 2005, 07:13 PM)
Silly, you can't attach anything to emails through this site (though it's not hard to find your email address in the Virtual Absinthe Museum, of course).

Coming in your mail, the three sisters.

Summary:

Jade NO: 76
Jade VdS, aged sufficiently: 88
Jade Edouard: 93


Got them. Thanks Sixela!

For those who don't already have it:

To email me directly, use:
info@oxygenee.com

Posted by: Rimbaud Mar 2 2005, 08:08 PM

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Posted by: sixela Mar 2 2005, 08:55 PM

Weel, that man doesn't look at all like the VdS should look like - that VdS is no French intellectual leftie wimp. That actress would probably be OK as Jade Edouard, though the role is out of character: that Jade Edouard's style isn't exactly that of a ye-ye singer (that's more something for the Jade NO).

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 2 2005, 09:02 PM

That "guy" should be representative of the Jade NO.

I'll bet she could kick his effete little can-can.

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 2 2005, 09:56 PM

Well, guess I'll just have to throw in a little something on the Montmartre then.



Absinthe Montmartre 65 (Premiere Edition):

Color before water: 7 (10)
Slightly hazed and not as clear as might be expected. Nice dark green color though.

Louche action: 6 (10)
Slowly appearing, with very nice oily patterns during louching. holds a fine clear layer on top until finished. A slight deduction in points for ending up a bit thin.

Color after water: 8 (10)
Still a very nice green - not as dark. Could be a bit lighter to be perfect, but doesn't present the overly neon green louche presented in some others.

Aroma: 22 (30)
A very heavy and complex aroma before adding water. Slightly grassy, but this could also be partly due to the many "special" ingredients.
After adding water it literally fills the room with it's herbal scents. Very nice.

Mouth-feel: 7 (10)
It presents a nice rich and full mouth-feel. Smooth and very interesting, yet slightly flat in the end.

Taste: 14 (20)
A very nice, herbal taste and in a way a bit spicy. It might do good from blending just a bit better, but it's very good. Some grassy notes can be detected, but not enough to make it the least bit bad.

Overall impression: 7 (10)
It does need some work to make it perfect and let the flavours blend a bit better. Understandably it's not easy to get an absinthe with all those ingredients to be perfect on the first run. The Montmartre is a very good absinthe.



Total score: 71 (100)

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 2 2005, 11:30 PM

Very nice review, as per usual, Hartsmar!

I'm sure I'll purchase a bottle in the near future, perhaps when Tuivel's tinkered with the recipe a bit.

Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 04:34 PM

Veritable Fee Verte Kubler 53

COLOR BEFORE WATER 10
It's clear. Don't see how else I can rate it. Can't give it zero because there's no failure involved. Can't give it ten because it's easy to do - just do nothing and keep debris out of it. Ten seems more fair than zero. So be it.
LOUCHE ACTION 5
Attractive louche action, nothing special about it, nothing wrong with it.
COLOR AFTER WATER 6
Steely white color, typical of La Bleue, but no blue nuance to speak of.
AROMA 23
Good clean anise aroma, not complex, but absolutely no faults.
MOUTH-FEEL 10
The best thing about this absinthe. Velvet, creamy, soft.
TASTE 18
Tastes better than it smells, a rarity. Simple refreshing taste.
OVERALL IMPRESSION 9
I like this very much, but is it absinthe? It's hard to tell if there's wormwood in it.
TOTAL 81




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Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 04:37 PM

Doubs Premium Absinthe

COLOR BEFORE WATER 3
I'm forced to penalize it in accordance with the instructions, because it looks fake, but I like it - a beautiful emerald shade.
LOUCHE ACTION 9
Strong milkiness grows from the bottom very nicely.
COLOR AFTER WATER 7
Can't say it has complexity or nuance, but it's opaque and attractive.
AROMA 27
This absinthe smells like no other I've ever had. The smell won't be to everyone's liking. Medicinal? Tonic? I find it refreshing and I like it.
MOUTH-FEEL 8
Somewhat thin and dry, but that's in keeping with the gin-like botanical nuances.
TASTE 18
It tastes like it smells. Again, it won't be to everyone's taste, but there's no way I can fault it - it's not deficient in any way; it's just different. An anise candy this one is NOT! I found it very foreign at the first glass, but it quickly grew on me.
OVERALL IMPRESSION 9
It seems to be a mixed absinthe with artificial color. That said, it's the best of its type I've had.
TOTAL 81





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Posted by: Perruche_verte Mar 4 2005, 04:43 PM

Interesting. Is Doubs now in "international" distribution (i.e., to the U.S.)?

Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 04:47 PM

Some more words are in order about the Doubs Premium. This is a triumph of marketing. As they say on TV "it comes with everything you see here" -
a spoon, thin and flat of course, but with an interesting design (I particularly like the New Orleans Saints emblem), a small glass (a mominette), and the glass is filled with sugar lumps.

Unfortunately the glass arrived with base broken off, but some Gorilla Glue took care of that.

The box features a lanquid green fairy, a "Banned in 1914" stamp, and some truly scary recipes, including one where you set a slice of apple atop the drink, and set the APPLE on fire! And douse it with cinnamon.

I have to admit there are couple of drinks that sound appealing, though, including one with lemon soda.

These marketing gimmicks won't be to the taste of the snobs, but this is smart packaging. Unfortunately they give that burning sugar garbage some play, but side by side with the traditional method.

I fully expected not to like this stuff, but I do. I also like the mominette - with a one-ounce shot of absinthe, filled to the top with water, I find it perfect for this particular drink (55% alcohol).

I seem to remember discussion of this stuff about a year ago - it comes from ?Africa blink.gif ?

It must be noted that this was a free sample, but in no way does that influence my opinion.




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Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 04:49 PM

Louched Doubs Premium




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Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 04:50 PM

Greenman was watching (next frame - why can't you edit a post to include an attachment?)


Posted by: Deluge Mar 4 2005, 04:51 PM

Yes, it is from South Africa... I am sure Oxy will have more to say about this one!

Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 04:52 PM

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Posted by: Deluge Mar 4 2005, 04:53 PM

That's a really cool pic Artemis! abs-cheers.gif

Posted by: Oxygenee Mar 4 2005, 05:20 PM

Thanks as always for the reviews Artemis. The high score for the Doubs absinthe validates why I think it's important not to evaluate oil-mix absinthes separately from distilled ones - if it tastes and smells good, it's a good absinthe, regardless of the method of manufacture.

Absinthe Doubs was developed by a very dynamic South African company called Thirsty Now. They specialize in innovative liquor products, usually in the "happening" end of the market - wine coolers etc - for both the local and export markets. I helped them with some of the historical backgrounders and press releases for their initial launch, and also had some small input in the formulation of the product.

The absinthe has been successful locally, where it's targeted at the club and bar market, and sells for around $15 per bottle. They are also developing export markets, initially I believe focussed on Australia and the Far East.

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 4 2005, 08:11 PM

Nice work Artemis!

So, the Doubs is actually ok!? That is one that I've been meaning to try and get hold of for a while. I think I'll have to locate a bottle... Sounds interesting.


Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 08:14 PM

At $15 a bottle, I'd drink gallons of it. Unfortunately, that's not the cost for anyone in the U.S.

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 4 2005, 08:54 PM

Guess I'll have to move on with another one then.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the scores for Lemercier Abisinthe 72 Amer:


Color before water: 6 (10)
Very pale yellowish green. Natural but as said, a little too pale.

Louche action: 7 (10)
Nothing very unusual, but I noticed that the slow drip produced wonderful oily trails in the absinthe. That pulled out a very fine louching effect.

Color after water: 7 (10)
Color improves and is a bit more green now. Still natural looking, and actually quite appealing.

Aroma: 21 (30)
Before adding water, there's really nothing to it. Nothing bad but nothing out of the ordinary either. Wormwood and fennel can be detected, but they don't blend into anything special. After adding water, the aroma improves quite a bit. It's more pronounced and presents a bit more complex herbal mixture. It doesn't reach the very top, though.


Mouth-feel: 5 (10)
At first it seems all right, then it turns very harsh on the tounge.

Taste: 15 (20)
It's a very nice drink, the wormwood is very much there, but it does get a bit too "spicy". The Amer 72 would benefit from a smoother more harmonious blend of the herbs. Still, it's nice.

Overall impression: 7 (10)
As said, a nice enough drink. Would benefit from some work...

TOTAL: 68 (100)

Personal note: This one really benefits from adding sugar to it. That presents a whole different drink. The mouth-feel and taste improves a lot. However, that shouldn't be needed if this was really a top quality absinthe. I enjoy it, but it must be with sugar.

Posted by: Ari Mar 4 2005, 09:03 PM

In the more final, non post versions, how will the scores be organized?

Posted by: sixela Mar 4 2005, 09:04 PM

Yup. Can't get a decent louche without adding (too much) star anise.

Still, 68 is a bit harsh, in my opinion. I don't think it's that bad, not much worse than un Emile 68 (and much better than the regular Abisinthe). That UE68 will also fail to score many marks, with the weights Oxy attributes to the visual...

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 4 2005, 09:13 PM

The main thing I hold agains the Amer, which is also what deducts the points from me, is the mouth-feel and the harshness in the taste.
However, as I said - I find that to improve a whole lot with the addition of sugar.

Check my review at my own site, and you'll see...

It's a good absinthe, but those two aspects pulled the score down a couple of notches.

Edit: That could very well mean that the UE68 could land at the same, or more if I find the mouth-feel to be better... But it's louche is weaker...

I'll give that one a go later on.

Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 10:43 PM

QUOTE (Ari @ Mar 5 2005, 06:03 AM)
In the more final, non post versions, how will the scores be organized?

That's being plotted even as we speak. Stay tuned to this bat channel.

Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 10:45 PM

On a get-shit-faced on Friday evening note, I was looking for a bottle into which to transfer some Doubs for the opinion of a forum member, when I realized said bottle was already full. Of Jade VS. Even a blind flea finds a dog sometimes.

Posted by: Jack Batemaster Mar 4 2005, 10:49 PM

QUOTE (sixela @ Mar 4 2005, 02:04 PM)
...Still, 68 is a bit harsh, in my opinion...

Ya think so? What score do you think I'd give it?

Posted by: Jack Batemaster Mar 4 2005, 10:50 PM

QUOTE (Artemis @ Mar 4 2005, 03:45 PM)
...Even a blind flea finds a dog sometimes.

I recently found an unopened bottle of Mata Hari that I forgot about. It remains unopened.

Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 10:52 PM

QUOTE (Jack Batemaster @ Mar 5 2005, 07:49 AM)
QUOTE (sixela @ Mar 4 2005, 02:04 PM)
...Still, 68 is a bit harsh, in my opinion...

Ya think so? What score do you think I'd give it?

Who the fuck do we look like, Gypsy fortune tellers?

Get off your ass and score some, mighty Kong!

Posted by: sixela Mar 4 2005, 10:53 PM

QUOTE (hartsmar @ Mar 5 2005, 12:13 AM)
The main thing I hold agains the Amer, which is also what deducts the points from me, is the mouth-feel and the harshness in the taste.

Yup. Too much stanise.gif .

On another note - I just drank a glass of NO, and I don't think there's that much wormwood presence. Then - burp - what is that smell in my nose? Wormwood!

Strange, strange,...

Posted by: Artemis Mar 4 2005, 10:55 PM

It's not true that you can't get a thick louche without star anise. It is true that such a liquor is difficult to balance away from green anise.

Posted by: sixela Mar 4 2005, 10:57 PM

QUOTE (Artemis @ Mar 5 2005, 01:55 AM)
It's not true that you can't get a thick louche without star anise.

Well, Lemercier can't. Same thing for the samples they're making for PhiL.

Can't be the process with use of individual plant distillates, because Paul Devoille is using the same process for the Verte de Fougerolles.

Posted by: sixela Mar 4 2005, 11:00 PM

QUOTE (Jack Batemaster @ Mar 5 2005, 01:49 AM)
Ya think so? What score do you think I'd give it?

A very low score - very deservedly so, from where you're standing.

Sadly, we're not all standing where you are.

Posted by: sixela Mar 4 2005, 11:01 PM

Darn, that NO is not easy to judge and realy morphs on you. Yesterday I didn't like it that much, tonight,...

It's certainly become better than when it was young - though that's not what Jack seems to have experienced.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 4 2005, 11:04 PM

QUOTE (Jack Batemaster @ Mar 4 2005, 04:49 PM)
QUOTE (sixela @ Mar 4 2005, 02:04 PM)
...Still, 68 is a bit harsh, in my opinion...

Ya think so? What score do you think I'd give it?

"Burnt" isn't a real number, so I'm not sure it would be a relevant score, anyway.


Posted by: Absomphe Mar 4 2005, 11:07 PM

QUOTE (sixela @ Mar 4 2005, 04:53 PM)


On another note - I just drunk a glass of NO

That's some really odd sentence construction there, Mr. LAGN.

Unless you meant to say "drank".

I would bet that the smell in your nose is mucous combined with "Old Bay", masquerading as wormwood, and it's it time to cut yourself off. harhar.gif

Posted by: sixela Mar 4 2005, 11:16 PM

Yeah - I drank, and I'm drunk. Strange -- those were only three glasses...

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 4 2005, 11:37 PM

I only had two glasses of Edouard this afternoon, and neither one was Absomphesized.

Nonetheless, I've acquired a bit of a buzz...and there really is a wormwood (and fennel) aroma in my nose. abs-cheers.gif

Te amo, Edouard!

Posted by: sixela Mar 4 2005, 11:59 PM

QUOTE (Absomphe @ Mar 5 2005, 02:37 AM)
Te amo, Edouard!

You meant "Ti amo", at least if you're not drunk. Plus you misspelled Tish.

Posted by: Jack Batemaster Mar 5 2005, 12:02 AM

QUOTE (Old Goat @ Mar 4 2005, 04:04 PM)
"Burnt" isn't a real number, so I'm not sure it would be a relevant score, anyway.

I can't remember if that xit's burnt or not.

Posted by: AndrewT Mar 5 2005, 12:24 AM

QUOTE (sixela @ Mar 4 2005, 04:59 PM)
You meant "Ti amo", at least if you're not drunk. Plus you misspelled Tish.

"Te amo" is valid in Portuguese, Spanish, and Latin.

Posted by: Grim Mar 5 2005, 12:30 AM

Oh Snap! Language NAZI FIIIIIIGGGHHHT!!!!

Posted by: Lord Stanley Mar 5 2005, 02:16 AM

Absinthe Suisse - La Bleue Clandestine from Alandia

COLOR BEFORE WATER
Well, it's absolutely clear. No sediment, no haze.
Almost docked it a mark for the deceivingly blue bottle but that bottle is way too cool.
10/10

LOUCHE ACTION
Gradient lines noted during the first few drops with light hazing at the bottom of the glass. Louches heavily opaque after about 1 part water. Likely star anise influence at work here.
7/10

COLOR AFTER LOUCHE
Milky white color. Nothing out of the ordinary for better or worse for a La Bleue with star anise in the mix.
7/10

AROMA
Definitely the strong suit of this absinthe. Nice fennel/anise balance with lovely floral underpinning. While adding water, the aroma blossoms to fill the room with honey sweetness and wider floral bouquet.
26/30

MOUTH-FEEL
Moderately oily texture with mild tongue numbing from the star anise. Oily trails noted along the sides of the glass after sipping. Minimal alcoholic bite due to the low 106 proof of the liquor.
7/10

TASTE
Very refreshing taste with predominant anise, fennel and a mere hint of wormwood. A light licorice aftertaste lingers on the palate. This La Bleue does not leave a sense of tails behind as other commercial Swiss absinthes have. In the end, the taste is more than satisfactory but does not entirely live up to the wonderful aroma.
16/20

OVERALL IMPRESSION
The La Bleue Clandestine may be the best commercially available non-colored absinthe that I've tasted. While not as complex as the Blanche de Fougerolles, it smells wonderful and goes down very smoothly (as evidenced by my nearly empty bottle).
8/10

TOTAL
81/100

Posted by: scott001 Mar 5 2005, 02:58 AM

http://www.bughome.com/Doubs/

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 5 2005, 03:13 AM

QUOTE (sixela @ Mar 4 2005, 05:59 PM)
QUOTE (Absomphe @ Mar 5 2005, 02:37 AM)
Te amo, Edouard!

You meant "Ti amo", at least if you're not drunk. Plus you misspelled Tish.

Sorry, nice try, and thanks for playing!

That was Spanish, not Italian...TE amo.

(Sorry, Andrew...I just noticed you beat me to the punch.)

As to misspelling Tish, she's very tolerant of little dalliances...

As long as they're absinthe related.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 5 2005, 03:18 AM

LS:

I was going to rate the Kubler 53, but after reading your scoring of the Alandia Clandetine La Bleue, EVERY part of the breakdown would score IDENTICALLY for me!

Therefore, I'll cut to chase and summarize by giving the Kubler 53 an 81, as well.

Posted by: Lord Stanley Mar 5 2005, 03:21 AM

Funny that Artemis scored the Kubler 53 and the Doubs at 81 as well. Seems to be the magic number so far.

The Blanches (Bleues) have a natural advantage over the Vertes in the color department. As for the other categories, it will be interesting to see how the clear absinthes stack up against each other. Of the commercial blanches that I've tasted, the La Bleue and the Blanche de Fougerolles are much better than the Kubler 57, White Fairy and Un Emile La Blanche. It's difficult to compare the Clandestine with the Fougerolles because they're completely different beasts. Hopefully, I'll have an opportunity to sample the Kubler 53 soon but it doesn't sound like it will be much different that the other 53 degree absinthes trickling out of Switzerland recently.

Posted by: scott001 Mar 5 2005, 03:28 AM

Artemis, I know what the answer will be before I ask, but it's a wet Saturday afternoon and I am bored.

Where did you get the Doubs? boobs.gif

Posted by: AndrewT Mar 5 2005, 04:16 AM

I'm somewhat disappointed to see the Doubs website hyping its chop.gif content. Oh well, I guess business is business.

Posted by: Artemis Mar 5 2005, 06:16 AM

QUOTE
I know what the answer will be before I ask


Tell me the answer, then.

Posted by: scott001 Mar 5 2005, 06:49 AM

Can I whisper it?

Posted by: Artemis Mar 5 2005, 06:59 AM

I'm not at liberty to say how I got it. It's safe to say it's by a method that most people can't use, so there's probably no point in going into details about it.

Posted by: scott001 Mar 5 2005, 07:03 AM

That's the answer I thought I may receive. Understand. Smokin Monkey.gif

Posted by: Artemis Mar 5 2005, 07:08 AM

Glad you understand. There are other people involved and they may not want their roles known. I didn't initiate the process, so I wouldn't even know how to get the stuff, in all honesty.

I can say a little more about it - the label says it contains wormwood and 11 "mountain herbs". The only ones called out specifically are anise, fennel, hyssop and lemon balm. You can taste the lemon balm, maybe even lemon grass. It's nothing like the nasty Lemon Pledge character of some of the Spanish lemony absinthes, though. There's something else I can't quite put my finger (nose) on, but it's interesting.

Posted by: scott001 Mar 5 2005, 07:24 AM

No need to explain.

Yes, that's the reason I was asking about it. It does look interesting, as you say. Their web site doesn't give out a lot of information.

Both the product and your review of it, are impressive.

Posted by: sixela Mar 5 2005, 09:01 AM

QUOTE (AndrewT @ Mar 5 2005, 03:24 AM)
"Te amo" is valid in Portuguese, Spanish, and Latin.

Well, in Spanish, I'd expect "te quiero" (certainly when speaking about a bottle of absinthe", though I'm not exactly up to speed with respect to the difference between "amar" and "querer" - as I'm sure you all come into contact with Spanish much more often that I do, I'd be interested to know, though).

You're right about (classical) Latin, though -- silly me, falling for those cultural stereotypes. But then, I wasn't exactly sober last night hula-1.gif .

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 5 2005, 06:00 PM

Te quiero would be technically correct, when used in conjunction with an "object", rather than a person.

However, this IS Edouard we're talking about, so a little romantic, poetic license should be called for!

Posted by: Gertz Mar 7 2005, 08:06 AM

Edouard, agapi mou, se latreuo!

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 7 2005, 02:50 PM

Showoff.

Posted by: Gertz Mar 8 2005, 07:21 AM

You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Edouard, srce moj, ja te volim!

Posted by: AndrewT Mar 8 2005, 02:24 PM

Itoshiki Edowaado yo, towa ni soba ni ite!

Non Indo-European languages rock.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 8 2005, 10:41 PM

Hai!

Posted by: Lord Stanley Mar 17 2005, 04:35 AM

QUOTE (Absomphe @ Mar 4 2005, 10:18 PM)
I was going to rate the Kubler 53, but after reading your scoring of the Alandia Clandetine La Bleue, EVERY part of the breakdown would score IDENTICALLY for me!

I've just tasted the Kubler 53 for the first time. It's definitely got a lot in common with M. Bugnon's La Bleue that both Markus and Alandia are selling behind different labels. If the trio of La Bleues were lined up, I'd have to concentrate pretty hard to tell them apart. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing. They all taste great.

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 17 2005, 08:07 PM

So, recieved the Muse de France #1 and #2 today, and here are my scores:


Muse de France #1, Frenchman Phil / Lemercier

Color before water: 7 (10)
Natural looking with a clear rather light but distinct green.

Louche action: 6 (10)
The louche is thick and good, but a little too instant. Clearly the use of badiane is here to help the louche. A slower louche would enhance the effect.

Color after water: 7 (10)
Keeps the clear green and still natural looking. It could be more intense/distinct given the unlouched color, but it's nice.

Aroma: 22 (30)
Before water it has a good bit of fennel and wormwood. Surprisingly the wormwood is not as dominant out of the glass, but from the bottle it is very noticable. Anis just subtly in the back.
After water, it presents a rather flat aroma. Nothing very complex and enchanting. The anis is more dominant now than the fennel, and then there's of course the wormwood. Lack of complexity deducts a few points.

Mouth-feel: 6 (10)
At first it is fairly smooth and round, but this is abruptly disturbed by the bitterness that hits from behind. The bitter finish is a bit too much.

Taste: 12 (20)
Clearly there's quite the bitterness in this one, given the amount of wormwood. There's a slight hint of burnt here, but not very much, still it does remove a point... Sadly not much of the fennel or anise comes through here.

Overall impression: 5 (10)
It is too bitter to be refreshing and the little complexity that was present in the neat aroma, totally disappears in the tasting.

Total: 65 (100)


Note: A bit of sugar, of course smoothens the bitterness to some degree, but still... I understand that this one is nothing that will go into full scale production, and that is good...

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 17 2005, 08:19 PM

Muse de France #2, Frenchman Phil / Lemercier

Color before water: 7 (10)
A natural clear olive tint green. Nice, but nothing out of the ordinary.

Louche action: 7 (10)
A thick and fine louche, but this one also a little too fast. Surely the high amounts of anise and fennel does have a role, but the "instant" louche still feels like badiane...

Color after water: 7 (10)
Still a fine natural color. I expected it to be a bit brighter, instead of this sort of boring olive louche.
Still, it's good looking.

Aroma: 25 (30)
Before water there's obviously a good bit of anise. I can also scent the hyssop and of course fennel. There's only a slight lingering scent of wormwood in the back. However, there's no real complexity here. It's still a bit flat.
After adding water, it actually presents a sort of fruity much nicer aroma. I can now also scent the lemon balm somewhere in there. still a bit lack of compleixity here, but it has improved.

Mouth-feel: 8 (10)
A nice full mouth-feel, quite rich in textures yet only "ok" balanced. I say it's quite all right.

Taste: 13 (20)
A bit tongue-numbing after a short while, but not at all as much as I expected, and that is good. It's clearly heavy in anise, but it does leave room for the wormwood and fennel. It could be more complex in taste, really. I think it's a bit too flat and doesn't present a sensation out of the ordinary. It is certainly drinkable though.

Overall impression: 7 (10)
A quite nice drink. Nothing fancy, but very drinkable. Given that this is more or less a "by the book" recipe I didn't expect anything out of the ordinary either, and all in all it's quite all right.

Total: 74 (100)


Note: A bit of sugar, of course smoothens the bitterness to some degree, but still... I understand that this one is nothing that will go into full scale production, and that is good...

Posted by: Lord Stanley Mar 17 2005, 11:07 PM

hartsmar, I noticed that you've scored the MdF #2 higher (74) than the Montmartre (71) and the Abisinthe 72 Amer (68). I'm surprised by this because I found the Montmartre to be quite a good (although perhaps too idiosyncratic) absinthe. While I haven't tried the MdF, your comments would suggest it to be a rather uninteresting, middle-of-the-road product. In my opinion, the La Bleue from Alandia is excellent but I only gave it a score of 81. The Jade Nouvelle Orleans has only been scored in the mid-70's.

I obviously can't argue with your scoring and wouldn't expect you to edit anything but is it really that good? Comments?

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 18 2005, 06:27 AM

LS, I am aware of that...
Part of the M65 scoring a bit lower than I expected my self, is that there where some flaws I thought needed change.

How ever, and I went through this my self yesterday, part of the problem is to find a correct middle way product to compare, so to speak.

The MDF #2 is not at all bad. It doesn't have any obvious terrible production flaws but it's nothing out of the ordinary. Maybe I was a bit too quick in posting the scores, since I think each and every one has to find some level at what they think is 5/10 etc...

So, what I actually planned on doing, is to go through those same ones again, along with others that I know is top notch, as well as some that is absolute rock bottom, in order to try and find my levels of scoring.

Don't know about everybody else, but I think that is a good idea.

The Amer 72 scored low simply because it was way to bitter. As I noted in my comment, it was easily fixed with some sugar, but the scoring calls for unsweetened.


Posted by: Gertz Mar 18 2005, 08:10 AM

QUOTE (hartsmar @ Mar 18 2005, 07:27 AM)
The Amer 72 scored low simply because it was way to bitter. As I noted in my comment, it was easily fixed with some sugar, but the scoring calls for unsweetened.

Hey! That sounds like real absinthe.

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Posted by: Absomphe Mar 18 2005, 02:33 PM

Yes, but now, thanks to the Frenchman, we know that it was only REAL absinthe for poor people! LARS!.gif

Posted by: Lord Stanley Mar 18 2005, 05:46 PM

QUOTE (hartsmar @ Mar 18 2005, 01:27 AM)
How ever, and I went through this my self yesterday, part of the problem is to find a correct middle way product to compare, so to speak.

That's what I was thinking as well. Along with more experience using the evaluation system, a reference standard absinthe would be useful for comparison purposes. The standard could be any middle shelf absinthe and wouldn't need to be the same for everyone. Each person could simply take a particular decent, traditional absinthe and grade others against it in the categories.

In my opinion, the Verte de Fougerolles could serve as a fair measuring stick for other absinthes. It's a quality product but not necessarily among my favourites. I find the colour, louche, aroma and taste to be quite traditional. Each characteristic is good but not exceptional. I could see the VdF scoring about a 70% ranking in each category and it would be easy to score others above or below that number accordingly.

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 18 2005, 05:55 PM

Indeed. I was actually thinking of doing a score sheet tonight for the.... PERIGAN!

That ought to be a measure for utter crap.
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Posted by: hartsmar Mar 18 2005, 06:48 PM

Oh the pain!

I'm doing bottom-shelf research here... Just had a sip of Perigan... Hubba!

On to Sebor...


Posted by: Ari Mar 18 2005, 07:58 PM

I have a new idea,
all masochists will be measured against Hartsmar.

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 18 2005, 08:01 PM

So... Here we go, absolut rock bottom shit here:

Hills Absinth 70%, Czech Republic

Color before water: 1 (10)
Blueish green. Very pale, cold and artificial.

Louche action: 0 (10)
No louche at all.

Color after water: 0 (10)
What color? This is water with a slight touch of blue.

Aroma: 6 (30)
Chewing gum and windex in perfect harmony with a heavy smell of bad alcohol. After adding water nothing happened except the "sensation" was thinned out.

Mouth-feel: 3 (10)
A visit to the dentist has more mouth-feel than this.

Taste: 3 (20)
Still, chewing gum and alcohol. No more, no less.

Overall impression: 2 (10)
Why?!

Total: 15 (100)

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 18 2005, 08:30 PM

Perigan 50%, Spain

Color before water: 5 (10)
Pale, yellowish green. Natural looking but almost "too clear" in some way.

Louche action: 0 (10)
No louche at all.

Color after water: 1 (10)
Not much, really. Pale, watery, boring and no good.

Aroma: 12 (30)
Mainly anis and a lot of alcohol. Bad alcohol... After adding water, nothing changed. It does have this weird sort of crappy complexity about it.

Mouth-feel: 3 (10)
Totally flat. No wonders going on here...

Taste: 6 (20)
A little bit of everything in a totally worthless blend, yet there's actually some texture to it that enhances the crappy taste to some weird form of complex crappyness.

Overall impression: 3 (10)
No thank you.

Total: 30 (100)

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 18 2005, 08:33 PM

Sebor Absinth 55%, Czech Republic

Color before water: 5 (10)
Natural looking but a bit muddy dark green. Looks a bit too vegetal to please me.

Louche action: 1 (10)
Nothing but a very slight haze.

Color after water: 2 (10)
Still natural looking, sort of, but it has only turned more watery.

Aroma: 16 (30)
Rather nice herbal composition going on, but it turns to a heavy medicinal scent after a short while.

Mouth-feel: 3 (10)
An immediate hit of bitter takes away all hope for a nice mouth-feel.

Taste: 4 (20)
Bitter, medicinal, bitter and dry and bitter.

Overall impression: 3 (10)
I can't see why this would be needed, no.

Total: 34 (100)

Posted by: morgueann Mar 18 2005, 09:45 PM

Ah, you're so, so harsh.

I mean, the guy just shot himself his stuff was so bad.

Cut him some slack.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 18 2005, 10:39 PM

Awaiting the Logan Filth review...

(Insert drumroll here).

Posted by: Lord Stanley Mar 19 2005, 01:53 AM

Hard to believe that the Perigan het.gif is twice as good as anything.
Even Hills. het.gif het.gif

Posted by: Patlow Mar 19 2005, 02:37 AM

i think harty might be a masochist.

Posted by: Jaded Prol Mar 19 2005, 02:59 AM

He should be awarded for valor beyond the call of duty for tasting Perigan again. Good description though.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 19 2005, 04:37 AM

QUOTE (patlow1040 @ Mar 18 2005, 08:37 PM)
i think harty might be a masochist.

MIGHT???

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 19 2005, 07:19 AM

QUOTE (Lord Stanley @ Mar 18 2005, 06:53 PM)
Hard to believe that the Perigan het.gif is twice as good as anything.
Even Hills. het.gif het.gif

Yes, but that's the beauty of the score-sheets.
The color of the Perigan is much like that of say, Un Emile. The aroma isn't at all as harsh and weird as the taste, thus it gets "fairly" good points for those. Then the rest totally pulls it down.
Hills on the other hand, is artificial, awful and crappy all through.

I was thinking of doing scoresheets for Trenet, Pere Kermann, Hapsburg etc as well, since I only had two-three small sips to taste, and then poured the rest out. But I couldn't stand it!


Posted by: Gertz Mar 19 2005, 12:58 PM

Scandi-masochists unite!

So, here we go ...

Absinth - King of Spirits, 70%

Colour before water: 5/10
A pale, not very intense green. Not artificially looking, though.

Louche action: 0/10
None.

Colour after water: 1/10
A paler shade of the colour before water. As mentioned, no louche; the one point is for not looking artificial.

Aroma: 4/30
Mostly bad alcohol, with only the slightest hint of some other undefinable chemicals. A few points because the bad things could be more pronounced.

Mouthfeel: 2/10
Slightly oily.

Taste: 1/20
Bitter with bitter and a long-lingering bitter aftertaste. Positively hard to swallow. After five or ten minutes, a slight hint of flavour from bad alcohol shines through the bitterness. Sugar only helps in amounts huge enough to completely mask any other taste.

Overall impression: 0/10
To be avoided at all costs.

Total: 13/100


Posted by: Absomphe Mar 19 2005, 06:03 PM

Generous, viking_emoticon.gif!

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 19 2005, 06:34 PM

That's the way a-ha a-ha...

Posted by: sixela Mar 20 2005, 12:52 AM

It's easy writing marketing press releases for them, though:

"Absinthe, King of Spirits, the absinth with the highest price/performance ratio in the universe!"

Posted by: Donnie Darko Mar 23 2005, 09:41 PM

FWIW, here's my review of Jade Edouard Distiller's Proof, after giving it a couple of weeks to age. I would estimate approximate age to be around 1 month:

COLOR BEFORE WATER 10/10
The colour is a luminous, almost lime like green. No sediment or haze is obvious. Very attractive.

LOUCHE ACTION 10/10
It louches exactly like any well made Absinthe should.

COLOR AFTER WATER 10/10
Nice vibrant green colour, with yellow tinges. Looks like those glasses of absinthe you see in the paintings that appear to glow slightly.

AROMA 20/30
It has a pleasant anise/slight wormwood smell, and also a nice grape spirit sort of aroma which reminds me of good grappa. However, there is also pungent dirty smell right in there with the other aromas, which I find unpleasant, and it discourages me from wanting to drink it. That acrid smell is particularly noticeable in the graduated cylinder used to measure out the proper dose for this review. The narrow beaker tends to concentrate the aroma. In the glass, the acrid aspect of the smell is still there, albeit to a lesser degree. A few points were added for the excellent fennel like aroma left behind in the glass once the louched absinthe was finished.

MOUTH-FEEL 7/10
While there is a soft creamy aspect to this absinthe which is very pleasing, at the 3:1 ratio the alcohol bite is a little rough, and interferes with the creaminess, and I find myself wanting to dilute it more or add sugar to make it go down smoother. The acrid aspect mentioned in the aroma apparently also translates to the mouthfeel, and it frustrates the velvety mouth feel that is trying so hard to push through.

TASTE 14/20
There are some very nice floral notes which bring to mind good wormwood flowers and some woody tones which I would love more of, but there is a bitter, almost scorched flavour which keeps rearing its head, interfering with my enjoyment of the other flavours. Some might attribute that flavour to Coriander, which can be peppery, but after trying a few other absinthes known to contain Coriander, I don't think the unpleasant flavour in question is caused by that herb. By the last 4th of the glass, that bitter taste seems to have gone away and left room for the exquisite fennel, which has a very long, almost minty clean finish.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 6/10
This Absinthe certainly has the potential to become great with future revisions, but it is not a great absinthe in its current form. It has top quality ingredients, alcohol base, and colour, but that ever present taste which I can only describe as "scorched", "bitter" or "very nutty" unfortunately interferes with the enjoyment of the positive aspects of Edouard. While I suspect that another 3 or so months of ageing will help round out that obtrusive flavour, and this drink may become well balanced, I'm not reviewing a future absinthe, but only this one in its current form. There is plenty of evidence of excellent craftsmanship and ingredients, but there's also certainly room for improvement.

TOTAL 77

Posted by: tabreaux Mar 23 2005, 10:22 PM

If the "Louche Action" of Edouard is worth only 5/10, then I'd certainly be curious to see what constitutes a "10"!

Posted by: Donnie Darko Mar 23 2005, 10:29 PM

Oh, oops! Typo. It's been corrected to be 10 out of 10 (I was basing it on a 5/5 scale accidentally), along with the total.

Posted by: Lord Stanley Mar 24 2005, 12:19 AM

QUOTE (Gertz @ Mar 19 2005, 07:58 AM)
Absinth - King of Spirits, 70%

Mouthfeel: 2/10
Slightly oily.

Didn't you get some of the twigs into your glass?
Maybe it would have helped.

Posted by: Patlow Mar 24 2005, 01:29 AM

QUOTE (Donnie Darko @ Mar 23 2005, 03:29 PM)
Oh, oops!  Typo.  It's been corrected to be 10 out of 10 (I was basing it on a 5/5 scale accidentally), along with the total.

WOW! there really is an absinthe mafia!

"If another letter from this school goes to that kid's house, then it's in the fucking oven you go!"

(paraphrase, been a long time).


Posted by: traineraz Mar 24 2005, 01:46 AM

Donnie -

I found that the "funk," as I called it, faded with air exposure and an occasional bit of shaking.

Don't forget to agitate before pouring, there's sediment in there somewhere.

I do still find the "creaminess" a bit overwhelming. I've sometimes had to cut it with something a little less refined just to reduce the "coating" action; however, once the funk fades, it's quite tasty.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Mar 24 2005, 02:07 AM

QUOTE (traineraz @ Mar 23 2005, 06:46 PM)
Donnie -

I found that the "funk," as I called it, faded with air exposure and an occasional bit of shaking.


I recorked the bottle after opening with a T-Cork 2 weeks ago (a slightly small porous one to allow for some breathing), and shook vigorously before I poured, and it still tastes funky to me. JBM is not alone in his Burnt™ perceptions (not exactly burning, more likely do to equipment or process nuances). Top notch Absinthes generally need less maintenance & breathing once they're in the hands of the consumer (Jade VS, for example), so I think Edouard has some catching up to do.

Like I said, the wormwood and other flavours in there are really nice, particularly the fennel at the end, which is by far the best aftertaste I've had in a commercial Absinthe, and indicates careful ingredient selection. But that scorched undertaste and almost tails-like aroma are rather cloying and interfere with the balance of the beverage.

If we were making a software analogy, I'd say this seems like an earlier Beta version than the VS is. It's functional, but there are some bugs that need addressing.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Mar 24 2005, 02:11 AM

QUOTE (patlow1040 @ Mar 23 2005, 06:29 PM)
QUOTE (Donnie Darko @ Mar 23 2005, 03:29 PM)
Oh, oops!  Typo.  It's been corrected to be 10 out of 10 (I was basing it on a 5/5 scale accidentally), along with the total.

WOW! there really is an absinthe mafia!

"If another letter from this school goes to that kid's house, then it's in the fucking oven you go!"

(paraphrase, been a long time).

If I were going to be wearing cement shoes, I think it would be over categories other than the louche.

Posted by: Patlow Mar 24 2005, 02:38 AM

word.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 24 2005, 03:17 AM

QUOTE (Donnie Darko @ Mar 23 2005, 08:07 PM)
Top notch Absinthes generally need less maintenance & breathing once they're in the hands of the consumer (Jade VS, for example), so I think Edouard has some catching up to do.




The VS also had a "scorched", or "nutty" character to it when it was very young.

This eased somewhat with aging, but was still present, to some degreee, after quite a few months.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Mar 24 2005, 04:01 AM

Huh. The anethole must have covered it up for my taste buds. I didn't notice the same scorchedness at all. Who knows?

Posted by: morgueann Mar 24 2005, 05:22 AM

QUOTE (Absomphe @ Mar 24 2005, 04:17 AM)
The VS also had a "scorched", or "nutty" character to it when it was very young.

This eased somewhat with aging, but was still present, to some degreee, after quite a few months.

Face it. You're trying to say "burnt".

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I can't believe I am saying this, and not Jack. ^^

Posted by: morgueann Mar 24 2005, 05:57 AM

Okay, I'm recalling all of this by memory, but hey, I'm having internal organ troubles, remember? Cut me some slack. I just feel like being slightly USEFUL to the forums for a change, besides accidentally creating avatars for people like sixela and LS. Even though I'm sure that they appreciate my work very much. pirate2.gif

Absinthe Blanche de Fougerolles 74%, France

Color before water: 8 (10)
It looks like a blanche should. Like water. I'm still giving it an 8, though, but only because green is just purty-er.

Louche action: 7 (10)
Teh awesome. It slowly but surely goes from crystal clear to a perfect milky white, just like a La Blanche should. No star anise louche here.

Color after water: 7 (10)
Beautiful, opalescent white. If you look at it close enough in the light, you can see all the hidden pretty colours. Or maybe I'm just seeing my old LSD traces. Either way, it looks like a classic La Blanche's louche.

Aroma: 18 (30)
Okay, sniffing this stuff, first, off hand, you get a good dose of nose-burning alcohol. Once you get past that, you'll realise that this stuff is FLORAL. There's some grate herbs in here. Really really.

Mouth-feel: 7 (10)
Thick, dusty, milky, "baby powerderish", rich, crisp, and refreshing. The herbs not only taste good in this one, they feel pretty good, too. About the only problem is, it's a bit burnt. Not as bad as some of the older Kublers, maybe newer Kublers, as well, it's been awhile since I picked up a glass of the stuff. But there is a small amount of a "burnt" character here.

Taste: 15 (20)
Okay, I really like it. I like it because it's simple, it's high proof, giving more power to some of the less-prominent flavours here like Hyssop and maybe even Coriander. The anise is here, but not overpowering in any sense of the word. About the only problem I see with this absinthe is it might be a little burnt, and it is a bit hefty, at 74%, and with some heavy-hitting herbal notes here that might come across as initially unpleasant to the unexperience imbiber. Newbies might be more inclined to try the Verte that Fougerolles makes, instead.

Overall impression: 8 (10)
It's yummy. When I used to drink, it was just the thing to knock myself back off my feet with after work.

Total: 70 (100)

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 24 2005, 07:04 AM

La Blanche... It's LA Blanche...


Posted by: Gertz Mar 24 2005, 02:14 PM

QUOTE (Lord Stanley @ Mar 24 2005, 01:19 AM)
QUOTE (Gertz @ Mar 19 2005, 07:58 AM)
Absinth - King of Spirits, 70%

Mouthfeel: 2/10
Slightly oily.

Didn't you get some of the twigs into your glass?
Maybe it would have helped.

Maybe there should be two "mouthfeel" scores for this one; one with and one without twigs.

I'll post the one with, when I reach the bottom of the bottle. In other words, never, even though it's a tiny little 10 cl. bottle.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 24 2005, 02:59 PM

And I thought you were hard to the Finnish...

Now you're sounding more like a danish.

C'mon, good to the last drop, tough guy! absintheglass-glow2.gif

Posted by: morgueann Mar 24 2005, 06:40 PM

Alright, but only for you, viking one. Not for France.

Why should I respect their language? They hate what we're doing over there! They hate our freedom!

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Posted by: Absomphe Mar 24 2005, 08:56 PM

::::eye roll:::::

Posted by: Lord Stanley Mar 25 2005, 12:02 AM

QUOTE (morgueann @ Mar 24 2005, 12:57 AM)
I just feel like being slightly USEFUL to the forums for a change, besides accidentally creating avatars for people like sixela and LS.

If you're going to use my photo for your artwork, I'll damn well use it as my avatar!

Posted by: Nate Apr 22 2005, 04:36 AM

QUOTE (Absomphe @ Mar 18 2005, 05:39 PM)
Awaiting the Logan Filth review...

(Insert drumroll here).

Here ya go... I'm feeling brave...

Note: Bottle is approx 1 or 1.5 years old.

Color before water: 1 (10)
I think I pissed this color when I was sick once. Yellow/brown/olive.

Louche action: 0 (10)
What louche?

Color after water: 1 (10)
Still looks like urine.

Aroma: 5 (30)
Rubbing alcohol smell. Gives me a headache. Thinking back far enough, I do seem to remember the scent of anise and napalm when it was first opened. After water, not much changes. There is a SLIGHT Vicks vaporub scent.

Mouth Feel: 2 (10)
Slightly oily. Not very pleasant to keep on the tongue. Currently having flashbacks of really bad strep throat medicine when I was a kid...

Taste: 5 (20)
Diesel fuel and Vicks vaporub... Bitter aftertaste... I have said before that this IS drinkable with lemon juice instead of water. Might not be to everyone's liking though.

Overall impression: 1 (10)
My head hurts... I'm going to go eat some crackers now as my tongue is currently yelling obscenities at me.

Total: 15 (100)

Posted by: Nate Apr 27 2005, 12:17 AM

Serpis 65

Colour before water: 6/10
Don't get me wrong. I love the color. It's a very clear and intense red. However, it appears very unnatural.

Louche action: 7/10
Not slow, not fast, not orthodox, but very pretty! Swirls of red stay on top while an apricot peach fades from the bottom up.

Colour after water: 6/10
The apricot color is nice, but completely opaque. Actually looks like a glass of apricot juice.

Aroma: 20/30
Before water: Given the high proof (130) of this, there isn't as strong of an alcohol scent as one would expect, however that and a black jelly bean aroma overpower any subtleties.
After water: WOW! The jelly bean scent is still there, but also many fruity, citrusy scents. At this point, it's impossible for me to decipher what all is in there, but I love it! However, there is a great lack of anything floral. It's a nice aroma, but very strange for absinthe.

Mouthfeel: 7/10
A bit thin, slightly oily, but very smooth. The high proof is not obtrusive, but something numbs the tongue after a while. Possibly star anise.

Taste: 15/20
Definitely different, but wonderfully refreshing. I was told by a few people that the only description of the flavor was "red." They were right.

Overall impression: 7/10
I love this stuff, however this does NOT taste like your average absinthe. If you're looking for a classic taste, look elsewhere. If you want something that will leave you scratching your head for a bit, this is your drink.

Total: 71/100

Note: I expected this to get a much lower score as it's very not normal. Bizarre.

Posted by: kevangogh May 8 2005, 10:04 AM

Lemercier "Amer" 72

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Color before water: 5 - Very similar to Un Emile, except a tad bit more intense yellow color. I want to see some green in there, and there is none.

Louche Action: 7 - Not bad, not great.

Color after water: 8: Held a nice thick louche.

Aroma: 20 - Alchohol was so strong that it really needed water added before I could get much from the aroma. Adding just a little water makes it much easier to smell. Nice aroma, but nothing that knocked my socks off.

Mouth feel: 6. Thought it was a tad weak in this category, could have been thicker. The bitterness could be felt, but won't take off for that because it's "Amer."

Taste 15 - It's quite good when mixed right using very cold water. It's definitely more bitter but I won't take off for that because it is after all, "Amer."

Overall Impression: 7 - An above average absinthe. Well priced, and no regrets. It's better than the packaging suggests. I most likely won't order it again though. Why? It's very easy to drink and enjoyable. However, due to it's strength, I'm limited to just a few drinks and can't stretch that over 3-4 hours in the pub. I also don't want that much wormwood, but that's me. I'm going back to 68% I think.

Score: 69/100


Posted by: Artemis May 8 2005, 04:50 PM

It's not in the right format.

It's not in the right thread.

Posted by: Grim May 9 2005, 04:14 AM

But while you're swapping that review to the proper format, maybe you'd consider sharing your thoughts on the Nouvelle, Un Emile and Edouard? wink.gif

In the proper review sections, of course... abs-cheers.gif

Posted by: Artemis May 9 2005, 11:21 AM

This is not a joke. I'm tired of this shit. There are minimal and reasonable guidelines for posting reviews. If you don't want to follow them, don't waste your time posting a review.

Reviews on products not previously reviewed get posted in get posted in the Newly Reviewed Absinthes thread.

Reviews on products already reviewed get posted in the thread for that absinthe in the Buyer's Guide section.

Alternatively, they can be sent to a moderator for posting.

Reviews will be formatted EXACTLY like the reviews you already see in the Buyer's Guide. If you can't tell the difference between your format and those, you need to pay the fuck more attention in your life in general, and in your use of word processors in particular.

THIS thread was created before the others were set up. It's obsolete. It's time for it to be LOCKED! It's like a construction pit with no fence - stupid children come from all over town to drown in it.

Posted by: Grim May 9 2005, 01:55 PM

QUOTE
This is not a joke.


You're right...

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It'll be a shame if kevin doesn't bother posting his reviews correctly, especially after putting together these pretty little pics.

Kevin:
http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?act=SF&f=19

Note the Important Topics (in particular, the Newly rated absinthes topic Artemis directed you to).

QUOTE
Reviews on products already reviewed get posted in the thread for that absinthe in the Buyer's Guide section.

The Amer, Edouard and Nouvelle each have their own review threads:

http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=2301
http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=2296
http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=2297

Posted by: kevangogh May 9 2005, 04:24 PM

Monsieurgrim, thank you for your civil reply. Duly noted. I tried to fix it shortly after but got locked out from it.

Posted by: Artemis May 9 2005, 06:12 PM

Mister Grim probably doesn't have a dialup connection and a steam-driven modem like I do, nor is he tasked with hunting down, tediously retyping and collating of scattered reviews, thus he has more time than I to be civil and even spoon-feed newbies.

FWIW, you haven't seen my nasty side yet.

Nice pictures, btw.

Posted by: Grim May 9 2005, 06:23 PM

QUOTE (Artemis @ May 9 2005, 11:12 AM)
Mister Grim probably doesn't have a dialup connection and a steam-driven modem like I do, nor is he tasked with hunting down, tediously retyping and collating of scattered reviews, thus he has more time than I to be civil and even spoon-feed newbies.

That's how I saw it, and I know you usually don't bother with the hyperlinks people throw out there.

Edit: I still say you should drink while you post... get trashed and take a kayak downstream to the nearest urban area (with a practicing dentist), then buy a new laptop and a highspeed internet service.

Posted by: hartsmar May 9 2005, 07:02 PM

Ummm... Does a new laptop automagically give him high speed internet? Or even the possibility to get it?

Posted by: Grim May 9 2005, 07:15 PM

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May prove handy when he feels like taking in the scenery from the patio.

Posted by: Oxygenee Aug 30 2005, 09:01 AM

Can I make an urgent plea for more reviews for the Buyers Guide? As you'll see, only a small percentage of available absinthes have been rated so far. It's an unsatisfactory situation where we have a long and very active thread devoted to a product like Kallnacher, but no actual review in the Buyers Guide.

Aside from Kallnacher, we particularly need reviews on F. Guy, most of the Emile variants, most of the Spanish oil mixes (NS, Mari Mayans etc), and of course many of the Czech brands.

Posted by: AndrewT Aug 30 2005, 09:42 AM

I think the big problem is that alot of us with a tight budget aren't going to put down some serious cash on a mediochre bottle for review purposes. Perhaps some of those who already have unreviewed bottles who aren't planning anything for them would be kind enough to send out some samples to people who want to do reviews.

And no, I'm not just desparate for absinthe.

Posted by: hartsmar Aug 30 2005, 11:15 AM

Awww maaaan. When will one ever get a time out!?

Ok... I'll get you some reviews the coming days.
Good and bad, new and old... But only to live up to "Clint Wormwood" I never said I like it!

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Posted by: Artemis Aug 30 2005, 07:32 PM

QUOTE
It's an unsatisfactory situation where we have a long and very active thread devoted to a product like Kallnacher, but no actual review in the Buyers Guide.


http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=2633

Posted by: hartsmar Aug 30 2005, 07:48 PM

I have reviews that will be sent to Artemis as soon as I've gotten it from paper to digital form of the following...

The three La Valote La Bleues, Kallnacher, Kruts Karport, Pernod 68 and Versinthe La Blanche.

As a side note... I didn't remember the Pernod 68 to taste that damn bad! Anyone who still thinks of it as decent should have a drink of it right away. Without sugar.

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Posted by: Oxygenee Aug 30 2005, 07:53 PM

QUOTE (Artemis @ Aug 30 2005, 10:32 PM)
http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=2633

My mistake, I missed it.

Posted by: Gordon Aug 30 2005, 08:24 PM

QUOTE (AndrewT @ Aug 30 2005, 02:42 AM)
I think the big problem is that alot of us with a tight budget aren't going to put down some serious cash on a mediochre bottle for review purposes. Perhaps some of those who already have unreviewed bottles who aren't planning anything for them would be kind enough to send out some samples to people who want to do reviews.

And no, I'm not just desparate for absinthe.

I agree, my pockets aren't that deep. Also being such a novice with only a few different brands under my belt I don't feel qualified to place a review. Which brings me to a question, how much experience should one have with absinthe, how many brands should a person have tasted before they're qualified to place a knowledgeable review?

Posted by: hartsmar Aug 30 2005, 08:26 PM

The review is a reflection of what you think, not everyone else. If you have had a couple of various brands and maybe of various quality you would very well qualify. What can be hard to is to pin down a form of reference to what you would consider a 4 or 5 or 8...

Go ahead and review all you want!


Posted by: Oxygenee Aug 30 2005, 08:48 PM

QUOTE (Gordon @ Aug 30 2005, 11:24 PM)
how much experience should one have with absinthe, how many brands should a person have tasted before they're qualified to place a knowledgeable review?

Anyone can post a review, subject only to two basic requirements:

1. The review is rational, and made in good faith.

2. The format outlined in the template is followed.

If you've tasted three or four different absinthes, hung about here for a while, and read some of the existing reviews, you're qualified to submit reviews of your own.

You can do so either publicly by posting on the forum, or privately by direct submission to Artemis.






Posted by: Absomphe Aug 30 2005, 09:05 PM

QUOTE (Oxygenee @ Aug 30 2005, 03:01 AM)


Aside from Kallnacher, we particularly need reviews on F. Guy, most of the Emile variants, most of the Spanish oil mixes (NS, Mari Mayans etc), and of course many of the Czech brands.

You buyin', sailor? wink.gif

Posted by: Selmac Aug 30 2005, 09:38 PM

[I didn't remember the Pernod 68 to taste that damn bad! Anyone who still thinks of it as decent should have a drink of it right away. ]

I was also shocked by its.......flavor? It ranks among the worst I have tried. The folks at Pernod should have spent the time to at least make a good oil mix. Deva blows it out of the water (so does Ricard pastis for that matter).

Posted by: Gertz Aug 30 2005, 11:17 PM

QUOTE (hartsmar @ Aug 30 2005, 08:48 PM)
As a side note... I didn't remember the Pernod 68 to taste that damn bad! Anyone who still thinks of it as decent should have a drink of it right away. Without sugar.

Makes me kind of curious.

P68 was my very first upgrade from Hapsburg back in the dark ages. I remember it as being pretty damn good, seen in that perspective. Could be interesting to try it again to see how much my current spoiled state would've changed my opinion.

(I can get a glass of it in several bars here, so it's a cheap and easy experiment to make.)


Posted by: jacal01 Aug 31 2005, 02:20 AM

One problem with doing the review is the structured format calling for consistency in dilution and systematic appraisal of each step of the process. In most cases this requires owning at least a sample to evaluate in a controlled environment. In the case of the Kallnacher, my impressions was formed in the midst of a Society function with little thought toward much beyond louching up a drink and joining the conversation. I found myself struggling to finish it after halfway through and a culmination of a tailsy fusile taste that forced its way into my full attention.

You can't offer up that as much more than a semi-subjective observation in an appropriate thread.

Posted by: Gordon Aug 31 2005, 05:27 AM

I have no problem with consistency in dilution. After a very brief time with absinthe I can tell you, all my reviews will be one part absinthe to three parts water period, unless it's snake oil, then I'll add sugar...

Posted by: hartsmar Aug 31 2005, 05:41 AM

Rather hard to be a programmer not using your hands...

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Posted by: Gordon Aug 31 2005, 05:47 AM

My hands work fine for other things , computers aren't my strong suit, I'm old school my friend abs-cheers.gif

Posted by: hartsmar Jan 31 2006, 07:26 PM

There have been several reviews added and updated in the forum part of the Buyer's Guide now but we still need more score sheets, both for already reviewed absinthes and new ones. I know many of you are sitting there drinking right now anyway, so why not give it a try while your at it!?

Even though I've made a real sweet little tool to easily format the reviews I'd be more than happy if you would spell (and grammar) check your reviews before posting/emailing or PMing them. It still saves time.

Once the little review formatting tool is the way I want it to be and flawless on the most common platforms it will be available for your use as well.

Now - keep 'em coming!

Posted by: prattwink Feb 13 2006, 09:24 PM

I found this while looking for something thing else in this topic, but it grabbed me because i had been looking for this review yesterday in the "index by brand" section and i believe it is not listed....the other Lemercier is the top one on the index list, but this is not the same...am i correct ? can it be added?
Thankyouvedymuch

QUOTE(hartsmar @ Mar 4 2005, 04:54 PM) *


Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the scores for Lemercier Abisinthe 72 Amer:


Color before water: 6 (10)
Very pale yellowish green. Natural but as said, a little too pale.

Louche action: 7 (10)
Nothing very unusual, but I noticed that the slow drip produced wonderful oily trails in the absinthe. That pulled out a very fine louching effect.

Color after water: 7 (10)
Color improves and is a bit more green now. Still natural looking, and actually quite appealing.

Aroma: 21 (30)
Before adding water, there's really nothing to it. Nothing bad but nothing out of the ordinary either. Wormwood and fennel can be detected, but they don't blend into anything special. After adding water, the aroma improves quite a bit. It's more pronounced and presents a bit more complex herbal mixture. It doesn't reach the very top, though.


Mouth-feel: 5 (10)
At first it seems all right, then it turns very harsh on the tounge.

Taste: 15 (20)
It's a very nice drink, the wormwood is very much there, but it does get a bit too "spicy". The Amer 72 would benefit from a smoother more harmonious blend of the herbs. Still, it's nice.

Overall impression: 7 (10)
As said, a nice enough drink. Would benefit from some work...

TOTAL: 68 (100)

Personal note: This one really benefits from adding sugar to it. That presents a whole different drink. The mouth-feel and taste improves a lot. However, that shouldn't be needed if this was really a top quality absinthe. I enjoy it, but it must be with sugar.




Posted by: prattwink Feb 13 2006, 09:27 PM

I see what happend.....It appears to be two different absinthe reviews listed under one absinthe, similar looking bottles, but i assume they are different. I was looking to buy this makers absinthe but could not decide which of the two to buy.

Posted by: prattwink Feb 13 2006, 09:36 PM

Attached ImageAttached Imageaye yi yi....i thinks it just the wrong photo for the particular absinthe reviewed. Ok, end of downward spiral.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Feb 13 2006, 10:05 PM

What's more important is they both suck.

Good eye, though.

Posted by: hartsmar May 7 2006, 06:07 PM

Attention soldiers! I believe it's time for another drill here.
There's a gazillion absinthes out there, excellent, good, bad and worse. At least some of you must have an opinion and the ability to write and use the score sheet. Get to it.

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Posted by: Bruno Rygseck May 8 2006, 08:40 PM

Sir! Added Sebor review to appropriate thread properly formatted as instructed and survived to tell SIR!

- insert heel-clicking emoticon here -





...and rewarded myself with a Duplais Blance later that same evening abs-cheers.gif


///BR

Posted by: hartsmar May 9 2006, 04:58 AM

YAY! I'm glad and I'm sorry.

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I too enjoyed a Duplais Blanche last night. Ahhhh..

Posted by: Gertz May 9 2006, 08:19 PM

QUOTE(hartsmar @ May 7 2006, 09:07 PM) *

Attention soldiers! I believe it's time for another drill here.

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Sir, you got mail, SIR!

Posted by: Assstomp May 9 2006, 11:28 PM

Hey, joker...

Posted by: hartsmar May 10 2006, 06:55 AM

QUOTE(Gertz @ May 9 2006, 01:19 PM) *

QUOTE(hartsmar @ May 7 2006, 09:07 PM) *

Attention soldiers! I believe it's time for another drill here.

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Sir, you got mail, SIR!


Yup. Got it! I will add it later on today.

Posted by: Zman May 10 2006, 09:51 PM

QUOTE(Gertz @ May 9 2006, 02:19 PM) *

QUOTE(hartsmar @ May 7 2006, 09:07 PM) *

Attention soldiers! I believe it's time for another drill here.

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Sir, you got mail, SIR!


Gertz...you know I luv ya, but get it right. Those are Marines, not soldiers.

Posted by: jacal01 May 10 2006, 10:50 PM

More like actors. 'Cept maybe the Gunny.

Posted by: Gertz May 11 2006, 08:54 AM

QUOTE(Zman @ May 11 2006, 12:51 AM) *
Gertz...you know I luv ya, but get it right. Those are Marines, not soldiers.
What can I say? Where I come from, we don't really draw that distinction. We just rape and pillage.

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Posted by: Dwight Frye May 24 2006, 11:34 PM

QUOTE(Absomphe @ Mar 5 2005, 12:00 PM) *

Te quiero would be technically correct, when used in conjunction with an "object", rather than a person.


Truly, Te quiero means "I want you". The "object" is "te". No other words are necessary. When you live in Metro LA, you pick this stuff up on street corners. Plus, my ex-boyfriend (I'm a girl!) said this to me every day. chickawow.gif

Posted by: Dwight Frye May 24 2006, 11:59 PM

QUOTE(AndrewT @ Mar 4 2005, 10:16 PM) *

I'm somewhat disappointed to see the Doubs website hyping its chop.gif content. Oh well, I guess business is business.

I ordered some Doubs today, based on the ratings here. I went to the site, and nowhere did I see how many Thujone-Bottle.jpgs it contains. Afterall, it's not all about the Thujone-Bottle.jpgs, is it?
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Posted by: Bruno Rygseck May 27 2006, 09:10 PM

Dwight,

I also ordered a bottle of Doubs based only on the review ratings, and just finished a glass of it, prepared in the traditional way. I like the color, the floral aroma with a lot of pine or something other "coniferous", and the mouthfeel. Taste is good, maybe a little too sweet if you intend to drink it with sugar. But as someone said it is not an anise bomb, although the sweetness very likely comes from (green) anise.

About the cutlet content advertizing: It is unfortunate and unnecessary with absinthe in general and with this product in particular. Also the "traditional" Bohemian method that is mentioned in the leaflet that follows the bottle is pointless. Doubs has an interesting aroma and taste of its own and it louches like a real absinthe should so there is no need for this invented "ritual" here.


Cheers, BR

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck May 28 2006, 09:29 PM

QUOTE(Bruno Rygseck @ May 28 2006, 12:10 AM) *

Taste is good, maybe a little too sweet if you intend to drink it with sugar.


I do not use sugar myself with absinthe so I cannot really give advice on that. There is nothing bitter in Doubs that would require sugar, burned or otherwise, to mask it. And it is not pre-sweetened as far as I know.

Posted by: Ozymandias Jan 9 2007, 02:27 PM

Just tried the Edouard Absinthe by Jade....do I post my comments here or e-mail them to someone?

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 9 2007, 03:33 PM

If you intend to write an actual review of it using the Fee Verte scoresheet, look for it on page four of the Absinthe Buyer's Guide, and post it in the appropriate thread.

Posted by: hartsmar Jan 9 2007, 05:46 PM

All the info you need is here: http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=2187

Posted by: darkend_163 Sep 19 2012, 11:37 AM

My first review on feeverte - Fruko Schulz 70.

Reviewed by Darkend_163 8/25/2012

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Editor's note: Review moved to forum Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=3315 and the full Fee Verte Absinthe Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/czech-republic/fruko_schultz_absinth_70/.

Posted by: darkend_163 Sep 19 2012, 01:02 PM

I hope my review is in the right thread… unsure.gif

Posted by: Provenance Sep 20 2012, 01:25 AM

If you don't mind having trashed my favorite absinth.

Posted by: Kirk Sep 20 2012, 02:16 AM

That explains your avatar

Posted by: Provenance Sep 20 2012, 02:54 PM

Naw, that's from the Kruts Karport.

Posted by: G&C Sep 20 2012, 03:19 PM

With or without pants?

Posted by: Provenance Sep 20 2012, 04:00 PM

How can you even speak of being without pants when mentioning this kind of xit?

Posted by: G&C Sep 20 2012, 04:09 PM

One never knows what may occur.

Posted by: Provenance Sep 20 2012, 04:23 PM

That you insinuate I remember is kind but not necessarily correct.

Posted by: Tibro Sep 20 2012, 04:27 PM

Yes, it wood be enough to make one xit their pants. Clearly then, the answer lies in removing them.

Posted by: Artemis Sep 20 2012, 07:39 PM

That's the first review in, how many years? And the score was like, 17 or something. The more things stay the same, the more they change.

Posted by: thegreenimp Sep 21 2012, 02:55 AM

I was told there'd be no math.

Posted by: Provenance Sep 21 2012, 02:45 PM

QUOTE(The Standard Deviant @ Oct 24 2007, 12:03 PM) *
i is useful because it lets you convert cos(x) and sin(x) into exponential forms.

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The thing on the left can be turned into the things on the right, which although they may look more complicated can make various bits of maths a lot easier. When it was invented, i was a curiosity, but it actually has a lot of uses.

If you were being serious, Selmac, I hope that was slightly enlightening. If you were joking; reading that was your punishment. Why on Earth would I want to do any maths? Studying Physics tends to require it a bit.


Posted by: Tibro Sep 21 2012, 03:03 PM

QUOTE
When it was invented, i was a curiosity, but it actually has a lot of uses.


Proof-by-analogy for the necessary existence of Fruko-Schulz: because if it was imaginary it would have a lot of uses.

Curious, isn't it?

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Sep 21 2012, 10:07 PM

QUOTE(Provenance @ Sep 21 2012, 05:45 PM) *

QUOTE(The Standard Deviant @ Oct 24 2007, 12:03 PM) *

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That's hyperbolic.

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Sep 21 2012, 10:11 PM

It's good to have reviews of even the crappiest "absinthes".

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Sep 21 2012, 10:17 PM

Although a scorexit of Mouthwash-Schultz is best stored where the sun doesn't shine.

Posted by: darkend_163 Sep 30 2014, 05:18 PM

Greetings!

More than 2 years have passed since my last review. I really wanted to gain some more experience to make my next reviews accurate. Since then I have tasted different absinthes, examined lots of possible absinthe ingredients (still it is pretty hard to determine which ingredients were used in the background) and 3 times distilled my own absinthe. After multiple review corrections and addictions I finally feel myself ready to post them. Here are they in chronological order:

P.S. I have filmed all absinthe louchings including my own. If someone is interested you can watch them here: https://www.youtube.com/user/Darkend163/videos

Posted by: darkend_163 Sep 30 2014, 05:20 PM

LEMERCIER ABISINTHE AMER

Reviewed by darkend_163 9/30/2014

COLOR BEFORE WATER 7/10
Pale but pleasant golden color. Clear and natural.

LOUCHE ACTION 8/10
The louche is quite attractive, but not very special.

COLOR AFTER WATER 7/10
Pale with hint of yellow and green. Good opalescence (three dimensional) gives warm amber highlights.

AROMA 21/30
It has strong scent of wormwood, green anise accompanied with star anise, some hyssop also gentian scent and pleasant alcohol bite out of the bottle. It is quite simple and not floral but intriguing and velvety as tobacco. While louching aroma is filling the room and becomes a little more complex.

MOUTH-FEEL 7/10
Actually it is not so harsh and bitter as I thought. It has no more bitterness than the other absinthes, but some nice spiciness, I believe because of a gentian. It is not very smooth though.

TASTE 13/20
Savoury herbal and powerful taste with some amount of mystery. All ingredients are very good balanced and the first impression is that this absinthe was made with care. It is good with or without sugar. Lingering anise aftertaste.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 7/10
Greener color and more complexity are missing in this absinthe but I don’t want Lemercier to make any changes in the recipe ‘cause I like it very much as it is. For that price it is a very pleasant, good quality drink which is perfect for novices and as everyday’s absinthe.

PERSONAL NOTES
Bottled 2011-2012. The new bottles have a black steel screw cap instead of plastic cap.

darkend_163 scores LEMERCIER ABISINTHE AMER 70 out of 100

Posted by: darkend_163 Sep 30 2014, 05:25 PM

UN EMILE 45

Reviewed by darkend_163 9/30/2014

COLOR BEFORE WATER 8/10
For 45 vol. it has an attractive light green color.

LOUCHE ACTION 7/10
Louche starts fast and hasn’t much contrast, but it’s ok.

COLOR AFTER WATER 7/10
Pale with green tint, not opaque enough.

AROMA 20/30
Wormwood, anise, a little fennel and also one strange and intriguing meadow flavor. I suppose it’s because of a good dose of Pontarlier petite wormwood. Quite complex and floral but very grassy. While louching aroma fills the room.

MOUTH-FEEL 7/10
Mouth-feel is not very creamy and is quiet harsh and bitter in aftertaste.

TASTE 12/20
Quiet complex and good balanced drink. This strange meadow taste brings intriguing note, but is too strong which makes this absinthe unusual and very grassy. Firstly it was disturbing and annoying, but afterwards I started to enjoy it.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 7/10
Very interesting and specific Absinthe but too expensive for its low complexity. It has light and floral profile, so it is nice to enjoy it in the middle of shiny spring or summer day. Also it was nice to try the recipe in which certainly no star anise was used. I really liked it much but I don’t recommend it as first absinthe due to unusual character.

PERSONAL NOTES
I’ve read reviews and saw a color of previous batches and I believe it is much better now but there is still a lot of space for improvements.

darkend_163 scores UN EMILE 45 68 out of 100

Posted by: darkend_163 Sep 30 2014, 05:30 PM

DUPLAIS VERTE RETRO

Reviewed by darkend_163 9/30/2014

COLOR BEFORE WATER 9/10
Very attractive peridot-emerald green color. It is clear, very rich and deep with some slight golden tint. Probably the greenest absinthe. There was some sediment on the bottom which rises up as a tornado after bottle shaking but I found it not dramatic.

LOUCHE ACTION 9/10
Thick, wonderful louche with great layering. It starts very intensively and slowly forming, leaving the very emerald stripe on the top.

COLOR AFTER WATER 9/10
Milky-green, very lovely and appealing. Huge amount of shades such as blue, yellow, orange… the whole rainbow.

AROMA 26/30
Amazing, very complex and floral, intriguing, mysterious and unique.

MOUTH-FEEL 8/10
A little wormwood harshness with long lasting and pleasant anise aftertaste.

TASTE 16/20
Very powerful wormwood bite with nice anise/fennel taste accompanied with other herbs on the background which bring those unique and complex notes such as hyssop, lemon balm and I think veronica. It tastes unbalanced with big ratio - the bitterness becomes more disturbing and there is something missing in the taste. I prefer no more than 1:4 ratio. It goes without sugar but after several sips it’s just asking for it. A little sugar makes aroma bloom and tastes more balanced and ripe.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 8/10
It is not the perfect absinthe, some improvements could take place. The buquete of botanicals was very great selected however some smoothness and balance are missing. All in all Duplais Verte is definitely one of the best absinthe produced nowadays. Highly recommended.

PERSONAL NOTES
Retro edition bottle.

darkend_163 scores DUPLAIS VERTE RETRO 85 out of 100

Posted by: darkend_163 Sep 30 2014, 05:34 PM

AKVELD'S ARTISANALE VERTE and

RAISONNÉE VERTE are posted here:

http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=2191&st=1590&gopid=208790&#entry208790

Posted by: darkend_163 Sep 30 2014, 05:37 PM

VALKYRIA

Reviewed by darkend_163 9/30/2014

COLOR BEFORE WATER 8/10
Nice green color, but too light for its 68% strength.

LOUCHE ACTION 7/10
With first water drips it louches correctly, nicely but then too quickly and foggy, apparently because of a good amount of star anise in the recipe.

COLOR AFTER WATER 7/10
Too opaque and too pale milky green. It reminds me of a Henri Bardouin pastis.

AROMA 24/30
Aroma is pretty nice, complex and quite fresh. Some minor disturbing earthy note same as in Akveld's Artisanale Verte but less.

MOUTH-FEEL 7/10
It is smooth with some harshness because of star anise.

TASTE 15/20
The star anise taste is too strong – overwhelming, nonetheless other ingredients seems well selected. There is good dose of wormwood. Background herbs bringing very intriguing and delightful notes. Also there is some earthy note but it is not disturbing much.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 7/10
It is complex, well made and very drinkable absinthe. I have no problem with star anise, but it will be much better if its quantity would be reduced, that would make Valkyria absinthe much more balanced and complex letting the other ingredients shine.

PERSONAL NOTES
Unfortunately there was no date. I believe it was bottled in 2013.

darkend_163 scores VALKYRIA 75 out of 100

Posted by: darkend_163 Sep 30 2014, 05:40 PM

JADE L'ESPRIT D'EDOUARD

Reviewed by darkend_163 9/30/2014

COLOR BEFORE WATER 9/10
Peridot – deep and rich golden green. It’s not too dark or too bright and it’s not too green or too yellow – perfect. Best absinthe color I have ever seen but I hope that more magical color exist.

LOUCHE ACTION 9/10
Very slowly and nicely forming louche, very thick and attractive.

COLOR AFTER WATER 9/10
Great looking milky peridot color with perfect opacity and opalescence.

AROMA 28/30
One of the best aroma I have ever smelled. Wonderful wine spirit and herbs scent are ideally balanced and of the best quality. It is very complex and round with such a wonderful bouquet which raises and unfurls fulfilling the room with ever single ice cold water drop.

MOUTH-FEEL 9/10
Smooth with a very slight harshness and pleasant verte healthy kick.

TASTE 18/20
Perfect balance and very good clarity. It is easier to determine and feel each ingredient separately than in other absinthes I have tried. Fennel and hyssop are very clearly perceptible. Incredibly complex and reach. Very delicious. I can’t find anything wrong.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 9/10
Masterpiece! Amazing, very gentle and high quality drink. Best absinthe I have tasted so far. Blessed be T.A. Breaux for such a successful absinthe reincarnation! I very hope the Jade absinthes will always stay with the same quality, price and availability as today.

PERSONAL NOTES
Bottled: JUIN 2013. The label of vintage Edouard is one of my favorite one and I liked the Jades vintage appearance much. When label was changed to a new one I was disappointed but on the other hand it is another century and it can’t be just absolutely the same and I think Jades modern variations are matching well our époque.

darkend_163 scores JADE L'ESPRIT D'EDOUARD 91 out of 100

Posted by: Artemis Sep 30 2014, 05:46 PM

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When label was changed to a new one I was disappointed but on the other hand it is another century and it can’t be just absolutely the same and I think Jades modern variations are matching well our époque.

I think the label was changed because Pernod put some heat on Ted about it.

Posted by: Jack Batemaster Sep 30 2014, 06:19 PM

Ricard aussi ?

Posted by: Artemis Sep 30 2014, 06:37 PM

Frick, Frack, & Friloux, Esq.
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Posted by: Tibro Sep 30 2014, 07:50 PM

Butt do they drink assbinth? Er, absinthe.

I'm distracted. Surprised to learn that a real, live darkend™ has been actively trying to bleach his mouthhole with it for years.

Damn. Someone ought to come out with an absinthe product properly labeled "Bleach™". Butt it'd be against the law, woodn't it?

I don't understand. It's all Greek to me.

Posted by: Artemis Sep 30 2014, 07:59 PM

Maybe neither Pernod nor Ricard were involved. Having thought about it, what I think I remember (from a conversation with Ted), was that somebody, or some entity, had achieved a registration of some sort that would have prevented him (Ted) from using his existing labels in the U.S.
But Pernod-Ricard (okay, Jack?) had grumbled about the labels in any case, and grumbling from an outfit with billions of dollars is somewhat more ominous than farting in a general direction.

Posted by: darkend_163 Sep 30 2014, 09:13 PM

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I think the label was changed because Pernod put some heat on Ted about it.


Yeah, I also thought about it.

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