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Posted by: Oxygenee Mar 5 2005, 08:32 AM

Please post here all reviews of absinthes NOT YET RATED - ie those that do not yet have a specific thread allocated to them.

Posted by: pierreverte Mar 14 2005, 10:19 PM

the only difference between the old version of VDF and the new version is that the new version is unfiltered.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 14 2005, 11:00 PM

But what a difference that lack of filtration made.

Posted by: Wolfgang Mar 14 2005, 11:33 PM

That must have been a hell of a thick and tight filter !

Whatever, the new unfiltered version is much better and that was the main result comming out of this side by side tasting.

Posted by: Deluge Mar 15 2005, 07:12 PM

I noticed that as well. After months of sitting in the cellar I decided to give the VDF's another tasting. I was very surprised to see how differently they had both aged. The new VDF is not that bad... It is not a favorite of mine but alas it was nice to have another glass.

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 25 2005, 08:18 PM

That explains why you still had any left to review!

Posted by: Absomphe Mar 25 2005, 09:37 PM

QUOTE (Breson @ Mar 25 2005, 03:22 PM)
Am I the only one that noticed a "grassy" vegetal character in the VDF?

Um, no.

Posted by: Lord Stanley Mar 26 2005, 12:11 AM

QUOTE (Absomphe @ Mar 25 2005, 03:18 PM)
That explains why you still had any left to review!

I don't have much. I might revisit the review next week because I'm just getting over a cold and may have shortchanged the UE Sapin slightly in aroma and taste. I really liked the Sapin at one time but it just doesn't hold a candle to the Jades, La Bleues and many other currently available absinthes.

There's an unopened bottle of the regular UE 68 sitting here too. Not sure what to do with that one. Maybe I'll buy a yacht and use the Un Emile to christen the bow.


Posted by: Donnie Darko Apr 27 2005, 07:50 PM

You're being generous.

Posted by: hartsmar Apr 27 2005, 07:52 PM

He he he.

Well, had I not known that there are others that where worse in the aspects of mouth-feel, taste and also "color after water", I guess those would have been lower. Yes.

But in all fairness I must evaluate this one in the same way as any other.

Care for a sample?

Posted by: Donnie Darko Apr 27 2005, 07:54 PM

Thanks for the offer, but NO!

Posted by: Lord Stanley May 6 2005, 12:48 AM

You're getting closer, Jim.

Now, just make it look like all the others.

Posted by: jmfranc May 6 2005, 02:20 AM

QUOTE (Lord Stanley @ May 5 2005, 08:48 PM)
You're getting closer, Jim.

Now, just make it look like all the others.

I think it looks fine....

Posted by: G&C May 6 2005, 02:23 AM

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Posted by: jmfranc May 6 2005, 02:30 AM

What more do I need to do? I think it looks a lot like all the others? You want me to add the "out of #" part?

Posted by: grey boy May 6 2005, 02:37 AM

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Taste - 10/20

Bitter. Not very smooth and almost no anise or fennel taste. Disappointing.

Yet it's rated to half it's potential?

Posted by: Lord Stanley May 6 2005, 02:38 AM

http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=2307

To quote Artemis:
QUOTE
I've begun adding reviews to the new Buyers Guide forum.

To save me a lot of work in the future, PLEASE:

Please format reviews EXACTLY as you see them here. For example, 7/10 not 7(10). Capitalize what I've capitalized, etc.


You might also want to cut and paste Alandia's blurb about the product to the top of your review.

Posted by: jacal01 May 6 2005, 03:33 AM

You, sir, are an exemplary example of 'turn the other cheek'. My hat's off to you.

Posted by: Lord Stanley May 6 2005, 04:46 PM

Just trying to help Jim get his review posted. It's easy enough for us to put our reviews in the proper format. Artemis shouldn't have to edit every review before adding them to the permanent record.

Posted by: Artemis May 6 2005, 05:53 PM

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What more do I need to do?


In terms of style (capitalization, etc.), if it's EXACTLY like the ones I do, I won't have to edit yours, just cut and paste it. If I have to edit it, I'm not too enthusiastic about that, and it just might stay where it is. That's fine with me, but it's not what the owner of the forum wants, so please cooperate.

As for the vendor's blurb, I'm not likely to use one I haven't seen in person on their website anyway, so don't go too far with that - it would help if you could point me to the website, though.

Posted by: jacal01 May 6 2005, 11:52 PM

QUOTE (Lord Stanley @ May 6 2005, 09:46 AM)
Just trying to help Jim get his review posted.

I was actually referring to the larger context. Bygones indeed. No apologies required.

It's encouraging to see this place as the site of the second and even third chance saloon. We can all take heart from that. abs-cheers.gif

Posted by: Lord Stanley May 6 2005, 11:55 PM

Was he the one that called me an asshole?
Like I ever gave a shit about that, then or now.
Who the fuck cares?

Posted by: Grim May 7 2005, 12:05 AM

Edit: Stanley is top-notch... but leave him the fuck alone. gun thug.gif

Or you answer to me.

Posted by: Lord Stanley May 7 2005, 12:38 AM

Quit being an asshole, Grimmy.

Posted by: Grim May 7 2005, 01:10 AM

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Slight green but a bit more yellow.

Not necessarily a bad thing. With time (and much restraint) absinthes tend towards a yellow color.

Posted by: G&C May 7 2005, 03:08 PM

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Posted by: Lord Stanley May 10 2005, 12:02 AM

Hmmm...interesting review. Did you really mean to say that the aroma is quite complex and too simple?

Actually, there's no star anise in the Segarra 68. Just huge amounts of green anise to balance out the bitterness from all the wormwood. Lots of people hate it because wormwood used in the coloration step makes it quite bitter. I don't mind it but it's not worth the money, especially at its recently inflated price.

Posted by: Lord Stanley May 10 2005, 12:03 AM

By the way, you'd better edit your review to match the format of the others currently in the Buyer's Guide. And spell Segarra properly.

Posted by: Gertz May 10 2005, 04:40 AM

And 'louche'.

Posted by: Giorgos May 10 2005, 09:47 AM

QUOTE (Lord Stanley @ May 9 2005, 05:03 PM)
By the way, you'd better edit your review to match the format of the others currently in the Buyer's Guide.  And spell Segarra properly.



Sorry but I cant edit it anymore. Feel free to do it for me.

Posted by: Oxygenee May 10 2005, 10:02 AM

Why can't you edit it anymore?

Posted by: Giorgos May 10 2005, 10:06 AM

There is no edit button for me on that post. It seems I can only edit very recent posts.

Posted by: Oxygenee May 10 2005, 11:28 AM

I've increased the standard permissions to allow anyone to edit their posts within the first 24 hours.

Giorgos: I'm not sure if this will work retrospectively on your existing post. If not, please copy and paste it into a new post, and make the necessary edits.

A general point: Artemis is a senior member here, the editor of the Buyers Guide, and a moderator of this section of the Forum. What he isn't, is a general secretary to members who want to have their reviews included in the guide, but don't want to be bothered with the details of formatting them correctly. It's discourteous to expect Artemis to do this on your behalf - the existing examples are straightforward to follow, and require familiarity with only the most basic Forum editing controls. So please submit your reviews correctly formatted in the first place, using exactly the standard headings.

Failure to do this may result in Artemis having to take you on a trip to the woodshed. No one is ever quite the same afterwards.

Posted by: Giorgos May 10 2005, 02:43 PM

Made the corrections. absintheglass-glow2.gif

Posted by: The Standard Deviant May 10 2005, 04:24 PM

Wormwood shed? Sounds like an experience.

Posted by: Jack Batemaster May 10 2005, 04:58 PM

Colour before water - 8/10

Clear with a light yellowish tint; looks natural.


An 8??? Your description itself describes a major mistake or bad shortcut.

Posted by: The Standard Deviant May 10 2005, 05:17 PM

Natural like urine.

Posted by: Artemis May 11 2005, 02:12 PM

There's nothing in my woodshed but oak, pine and mimosa. I use it to power my stream-driven modem.

Another thing about the reviews - I maintain a spreadsheet that doesn't, for technical reasons, exactly match the format of the forum - so I have to work on every review post at least twice. The more a post looks like the standard, the less I have to work on it for the html version. I have to work on it in any case for the spreadsheet. I agreed to do it, I don't mind, but the easier it is for me, the more wood can stay in the shed for next winter.

Posted by: D. Gray May 11 2005, 07:24 PM

QUOTE (Jack Batemaster @ May 10 2005, 07:58 PM)
Colour before water - 8/10

Clear with a light yellowish tint; looks natural.


An 8??? Your description itself describes a major mistake or bad shortcut.

As that snippet seems to have come from my review I feel I must respond.

I find it hard to review a blanche on colour simply because there's not much of it. I do not have any knowledge on production on absinthe, so I would not know if the slight tint tells of a 'major mistake or bad shortcut'. I gave it an 8 as it is clear, has no floaties, does not look artificial and generally looks good. There is the yellowish tint but that is not significant and I have not found the tint offensive enough to penalise the absinthe by more than 2 points.

If I am seriously mistaken, please feel free to have a look at the colour yourself and tell me what rating you would have given it.

I await your judgment.
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Posted by: Gertz May 11 2005, 08:00 PM

UE 45 isn't supposed to be a blanche.

But then again, I don't see much point in judging the colour from any knowledge of shortcuts or mistakes in production. I am a huge Segarra 45 fan, and according to some, there are some serious "flaws" in its production that might be responsible for its colour. But as long as the result tastes good, I don't care if they burn it, don't cut the tails properly, throw in AA or piss in it.

Posted by: Artemis May 11 2005, 08:32 PM

Possibly what Jack meant is that if it was obviously intended to be green, and isn't, the color is flawed. There's no way an absinthe that should have been green but turns out pale yellow merits 8 of 10. If they intended it to be pale yellow, then it may not be faulted for a flawed process, but it may be faulted for, well, being pale yellow.

If a blanche is yellow, something is wrong.

If a verte is yellow (and not due to aging), something is wrong.

I don't really remember what UE 45 was like, so I'm not really commenting about that product in particular, but I think it was much paler than I would expect to see a verte absinthe.

I retract what I said about UE 45 - I've never had it. I confused it with something else.

Posted by: D. Gray May 11 2005, 09:57 PM

QUOTE (Gertz @ May 11 2005, 11:00 PM)
UE 45 isn't supposed to be a blanche.

(...)

This would appear to be the problem then.
I assumed the UE 45 was a blanche due to the colour and its alcohol content. frusty.gif

In the light of this new info and my very newbish mistake I would have given it a different rating altogether; something along the lines of 3.

I will try to edit it, but I fear that it is too late. Shall I repost the review in its entirety?

Posted by: Artemis May 12 2005, 03:24 AM

I'll edit it, with your permission.

If it doesn't happen soon, remind me about it.

Posted by: D. Gray May 13 2005, 03:42 AM

I will. Thank you.

Posted by: Artemis May 27 2005, 11:14 PM

It's not possible for it to come out of the still green. All green absinthe comes out of the distillery green if they mean comes out of the shipping dock that way.

Posted by: Ari May 27 2005, 11:44 PM

"The constituent herbs are macerated for about 8-10 days in alcohol and then distilled, the result being an emerald coloured spirit."

Yeah, I don't exactly trust their site for accurate information. I was looking for their bit about hapsburg but it doesn't appear they want to talk about their absinthe.

Posted by: Gertz May 28 2005, 09:17 AM

They manage to say a bit about absinthe in general (mostly misleading) without a single word about the actual products they sell. Hm.

Posted by: Ari Aug 30 2005, 04:27 PM

Since Oxy is calling for more reviews, I thought I would point out there are reviews in this thread that have yet to be organized.

Posted by: celticgent Aug 30 2005, 04:52 PM

oy snap

Posted by: Artemis Aug 30 2005, 07:29 PM

QUOTE
I thought I would point out there are reviews in this thread that have yet to be organized.


Thank you. I'll look into it.

Posted by: brucer Sep 15 2005, 03:56 PM

Artemis,

Please find below tasting results for four absinthes
- Havel (Czech)
- Pernod 68
- Jade Edouard
- Blanche de Fougerolles

1 This scores are the average of four testers at a blind-fold tasting. As it was blind-fold we were critical of the best stuff, marking lower than we might in an open tasting, and lenient on the poor stuff, marking it higher than we might in an open tasting.

2 None of us our experts, so when we say "wormwood" or "melissa" we are just guessing, but these are our opinions.

3 I have written this up while it is still fresh in my mind, in other words, with a hang-over. So apologies if the below is incoherent drivel.

4 We tasted all four together, that is, giving marks for colour for all four, then marks for aroma for all four, etc. This may not be the best way, and perhaps the better stuff deserves re-appraisal singly.

5 I have included the JE in the post as the existing thread is for "Distillers' Proof" and we were tasting the released version.

Bruce

Text of reviews removed from this post and posted in the Buyer's Guide October 6th, 2005 - The Editor

Posted by: Oxygenee Sep 15 2005, 04:01 PM

Excellent reviews, thanks Brucer.
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Posted by: Lord Stanley Sep 15 2005, 04:48 PM

Agreed. The reviews are well written and informative.

Posted by: hartsmar Sep 15 2005, 04:57 PM

Very nice.
Though, it might be good to keep in mind that the nose can only really tell three fragrances apart before it needs to "rest" for a while. Thus, doing an "aroma test" for four absinthes simultaneously might actually give a slight "off" result.

This is only minor details and I really enjoyed your reviews.

Posted by: Jaded Prol Sep 15 2005, 09:41 PM

After reading the reviews I went and dug out a half bottle of BdF that's aging in my cabinet. I found the louche unimpressive though I like it better than the Jade Edouard.

I think the Clandestine is far better than either however.

Posted by: Absomphe Sep 15 2005, 10:33 PM

In the louche department, perhaps.

However,it's hard to beat the complexity of the BDF amongst all the la bleues out there, though, and it seems to me that there is a bit more wormwood evident in the BDF than there is in the Clandestine La Bleue.

Posted by: brucer Sep 16 2005, 08:35 AM

Hmm. In the cold light of sober day it seems we got a little carried away. But when we marked the louching action we had not yet had a single drink. That day we found it pleasing, somehow.

Hartsmar is right. Four was too many, and a bit confusing on the nose.

The other problem with tasting four is that by the time we had finished the process, and were giving marks for overall impression, we were pissed as newts. So the desriptions not only decribe the taste but are also, in themselves, indicative of the effects of drinking absinthe.

I will send some more thoughts later.

Bruce

Posted by: Ari Sep 16 2005, 03:36 PM

Which should lead to the slogan:
Absinthe drinkers Swallow
Wine drinkers spit.

Posted by: Artemis Oct 5 2005, 04:26 AM

My online time has been next to nil since Katrina - I've started to update the reviews with some received by email - I'll get to those in this thread before too long.

Grim, when did you review that Kallnacher? I deleted your post before I noted the date.

Posted by: Artemis Oct 6 2005, 04:51 AM

Some things reviewers should keep in mind to make my life easier, which will make me less disgusted with the menial aspects of posting reviews, therefore leading to quicker, more efficient postings, therefore making Oxy happier and this section better:

DO NOT get creative with the format. There are no italics anywhere. Don't use them unless you're quoting a label or other text that uses them.

The numbers go right AFTER the headings, NOT after the comments.

In short, please format your review exactly as you see others already here formatted, unless you see one that's wrong, then call it to my attention please.

Comments about or quotes from the vendor or maker are appreciated, but don't expect to see them in print until I've checked them out, which might take a while.

This is not a "stars" system. We do not assign stars, and if you mention them I will delete them. The score numbers speak for themselves, obviating stars.

Thank you for your support.

Posted by: turangalila Oct 7 2005, 08:16 AM

Editors note: The review has been removed from this thread and can be found in the Buyer's Guide here:
http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=2755&view=findpost&p=96823

Posted by: Ari Oct 13 2005, 02:59 AM

a review of Un Emile 45 that is about a year old. Also a review of Herbsaint Pastis and Macerated fennel. I reviewed all of these at around the same time and also made a small glass of VdF to compare.


Un Emile 45

Editors note: The review of Un Emile 45 has been removed from this thread and can be found in the Buyer's Guide here:
http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3068&view=findpost&p=104363


For fun reviews
This would probably fit better in another topic but I don't think it's important enough to go and make a new thread, so it gets tacked on here.

HerbSaint Pastis.
Although there hasn't been any calls for pastis reviews I thought it would be interesting to see how it would score compared to absinthe.

COLOR BEFORE WATER 3/10
Artificially colored. They really shouldn't have bothered, it looks like neon pee.

LOUCHE ACTION 3/10
Quick, thick and uninteresting.

COLOR AFTER WATER 2/10
At 3:1 it is starting to become milky and opal but is hindered by the artificial coloring and is still mostly neon pee.

AROMA 12/30
Before water a sweet candy fennel smell and possibly some anise. After water it blossoms a bit but becomes overall thinner and loses the sweet smell.

MOUTH-FEEL 4/10
thin but not vacant.

TASTE 9/20
Fennel and oddly bitter for how sweet it smells.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 4/10

TOTAL 37/100


Macerated Fennel.
For learning experience I took some McCormick fennel and soaked it in a couple ounces of 151 proof everclear for a couple days. The color turned out bright green and since it was just an experiment I left it out in the sun to see the color change. It took only a couple hours to turn almost completely brown. It makes me wonder why some distillers ship their naturally colored verte in clear bottles.

COLOR BEFORE WATER 7/10
Natural green.

LOUCHE ACTION 4/10
Oil trails that slowly develops into an overall thin cloudy drink.

COLOR AFTER WATER 5/10
Thin milky greenish white. (But not anywhere near as thin as the UE45)

AROMA 10/30
Before water a sweet candy anise smell. After water the candy smell takes over more but it doesn't expand or blossom.

MOUTH-FEEL 2/10
thin, alcohol burn.

TASTE 5/20
Candy anise flavor (fennel), then green plant, then horrible bitter.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 3/10
Macerating a relatively large amounts of crappy fennel in crappy alcohol base is bad. Adding sugar makes it slightly reasonable.

TOTAL 36/100

It obviously gains pseudo points for having a natural green color. With sugar it wasn't undrinkable, which is sad that some companies seem to produce something less than fennel in everclear.

Posted by: crosby Oct 13 2005, 05:03 AM

So they are both better than Un Emile 45%.

Posted by: Ari Oct 13 2005, 05:25 AM

Yep… well without sugar the bitterness of the fennel made it undrinkable, it just got high marks for louche and color compared to the UE45. With sugar I would rate it above the UE45 though. The UE45 could get some credit for being a bit more complex but if it isn't done well there isn't a point to complex.
A year ago I didn't really notice the dirt smell but this time it was very pronounced, I had to hold my nose when it was close to the glass when taking a drink. It might not be there for every bottle, but if it is I don't see how the judges rated this anywhere near the top.

Oh and the VdF blew all three out of the water, it was the only glass of the four I didn't sink.

Posted by: hartsmar Oct 13 2005, 05:31 AM

The "new and improved" Emile absinthes does have a slightly stronger louche and also a better flavor profile. Still, there's wrok to be done but it's definitely better than before.


Posted by: hartsmar Oct 15 2005, 10:00 AM

Editors note: The review of Partisane has been removed from this thread and can be found in the Buyer's Guide here:
http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=2839&view=findpost&p=99013

Posted by: hartsmar Oct 15 2005, 10:05 AM

Editors note: The review of Libertine Amer has been removed from this thread and can be found in the Buyer's Guide here:
http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=2842&view=findpost&p=99023

Posted by: AndrewT Nov 27 2005, 08:33 PM

Editors note: The review of Brut d'alambic has been removed from this thread and can be found in the Buyer's Guide here:
http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3082&view=findpost&p=104434

Posted by: AndrewT Nov 28 2005, 05:19 AM

Kefraya Arak "Cave Kouroum"

Reviewed by Grim and AndrewT 11/27/05

COLOR BEFORE WATER 10/10
Perfectly clear.

LOUCHE ACTION 9/10
Completely opaque louche- holding it up to light makes it completely dark. One point taken off because it lacks the opalescent quality that most absinthe has.

COLOR AFTER WATER 9/10
Perfectly white. As mentioned, not as opalescent as some absinthe.

AROMA 28/30
Sweet, simple, and clean. Nothing harsh or overbearing.

MOUTH-FEEL 8.5/10
Nice and thick, feels like milk.

TASTE 18/20
Very simple, but clean and very strong herbally.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 8/10
Very, very well made. Full of flavor, though not herbal complexity.

Texas Louche Fest scores Kefraya Arak "Cave Kouroum" 90.5 out of 100

Posted by: AndrewT Nov 28 2005, 05:30 AM

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Reviewed by Grim and AndrewT 11/27/05

COLOR BEFORE WATER 10/10
Unbelievably green. Almost looks like it was artificially dyed, but not so. Not too dark, not too light, just incredibly green.

LOUCHE ACTION 9/10
Beautiful climbing louche, swirling up from the bottom and coming to a nice thick, opaque louche.

COLOR AFTER WATER 9/10
Still quite alot of green showing through. More green than many commercial absinthes are before louching.

AROMA 29/30
No obvious faults, just a wonderfully assertive creamy, floral scent.

MOUTH-FEEL 8/10
Quite nice, not as thick as some, but still quite nice.

TASTE 18/20
Very bold and strong flavors, no faults at all, amazingly refreshing and solid.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 8.5/10
Very, very good. Full of flavor, very well balanced, with no flaws.

Grim and AndrewT score censored2.gif 91.5 out of 100

Posted by: Grim Nov 28 2005, 05:36 AM

Despite what Andrew had to say... I found this quite cloying and, um, obvious.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Nov 28 2005, 02:30 PM

In other words, it was not the Chateau La Tour of Absinthes?

Posted by: Grim Nov 28 2005, 02:45 PM

QUOTE(AndrewT @ Nov 27 2005, 01:33 PM) *

Blanche Traditionelle "Brut d'alambic"...
OVERALL IMPRESSION 7/10
A very nice absinthe, well made, but it could stand a little more herbal intensity in the flavors. All in all, a much better product than the BDF.

Texas Louche Fest scores Blanche Traditionelle "Brut d'alambic" 78 out of 100

Truthfully, this is a clean commercial absinthe. It doesn't really do this absinthe right to group it with the likes of Kallnacher and Duplais, so don't.

With a slightly more present concentration of heavy oils and a quantity of A.a. to match that boosted spirit, this absinthe would be awesome.

It very much exceeded my expectations, and don't pay any attention to the BS "reviews" that follow that review. They were made late at night, while a few us were drunk (Andrew/myself were fighting, hanging off eachother, and stumbling around like drunk idiots), for no apparent reason other than the computer was on and the board was visible. Ignore the white noise.

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 29 2005, 02:01 AM

QUOTE(AndrewT @ Nov 27 2005, 10:19 PM) *

Kefraya Arak "Cave Kouroum"

Reviewed by Grim and AndrewT 11/27/05

COLOR BEFORE WATER 10/10
Perfectly clear.

LOUCHE ACTION 9/10
Completely opaque louche- holding it up to light makes it completely dark. One point taken off because it lacks the opalescent quality that most absinthe has.

COLOR AFTER WATER 9/10
Perfectly white. As mentioned, not as opalescent as some absinthe.

AROMA 28/30
Sweet, simple, and clean. Nothing harsh or overbearing.

MOUTH-FEEL 8.5/10
Nice and thick, feels like milk.

TASTE 18/20
Very simple, but clean and very strong herbally.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 8/10
Very, very well made. Full of flavor, though not herbal complexity.

Texas Louche Fest scores Kefraya Arak "Cave Kouroum" 90.5 out of 100



I just sampled Ksarak arak, and I would rate it very similarly...it's very clean, very simple, and extremely herbal, with a wonderful milky, opaque louche. I found it to be more "zippy' than Kubler 53, and perhaps a tad less complex, but that was more than compensated for by the rich, velvety texture, and the fantastic louche...for a beverage so anise-heavy, it's also reasonably dry in the finish...not cloying...for the price, a good arak is definitely a more economical purchase than any commercial la bleue absinthe, all historical romance aside.

Posted by: pierreverte Nov 29 2005, 03:41 PM

the lebanese are certainly masters of distilling their own wine and then redistilling it with fine syrian green anise afterward. and 53%, just like la bleue...what's that all about? but don't think it hasn't been looked into... poke.gif

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 29 2005, 03:56 PM

And the Ksarak is even distilled in France, according to their blurb.

It doesn't mention who the distiller is, although I'm curious.



Speaking of blurbs, and absinthe and arak comparisons here's one from a Balinese "effects of drinking arak" description...

The Strange Effect of Drinking Arak...

The effect of drinking arak is more akin to tequila than other liquors—it has a similar drug-like effect as opposed to a drunk feeling. Which isn't to say you won't get drunk. It's very potent. And if you drink too much you're liable to have some strange dreams. People in Bali say Rangda, the witch demon, visits them when they drink too much arak. Don't worry, at least you're not waking up next to her in the morning. Hopefully. The good news is you won't wake up with a hangover from drinking arak. Well, not as long as you don't mix your liquors.


Posted by: pierreverte Nov 29 2005, 04:11 PM

no. i think it is distilled in lebanon, but this may give you an idea who is working with them:
http://www.ksara.com.lb/extranet.htm

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 29 2005, 04:17 PM

Thanks, Peter!

If that's the case, they certainly could learn a thing or two from the Lebanese if they ever choose to improve the taste of their Pernod Pastass.

Posted by: thegreenimp Nov 29 2005, 05:25 PM

QUOTE(Grim @ Nov 28 2005, 09:45 AM) *

QUOTE(AndrewT @ Nov 27 2005, 01:33 PM) *

Blanche Traditionelle "Brut d'alambic"...
OVERALL IMPRESSION 7/10
A very nice absinthe, well made, but it could stand a little more herbal intensity in the flavors. All in all, a much better product than the BDF.

Texas Louche Fest scores Blanche Traditionelle "Brut d'alambic" 78 out of 100

Truthfully, this is a clean commercial absinthe. It doesn't really do this absinthe right to group it with the likes of Kallnacher and Duplais, so don't.

With a slightly more present concentration of heavy oils and a quantity of A.a. to match that boosted spirit, this absinthe would be awesome.

It very much exceeded my expectations, and don't pay any attention to the BS "reviews" that follow that review. They were made late at night, while a few us were drunk (Andrew/myself were fighting, hanging off eachother, and stumbling around like drunk idiots), for no apparent reason other than the computer was on and the board was visible. Ignore the white noise.



I very much agree, the Brut d' alambic was very good, and has the potential to be a real knockout, I was impressed.

Posted by: Selmac Nov 29 2005, 05:57 PM

QUOTE(Absomphe @ Nov 29 2005, 09:17 AM) *

Thanks, Peter!

If that's the case, they certainly could learn a thing or two from the Lebanese if they ever choose to improve the taste of their Pernod Pastass.



Or their absinthe, for that matter.

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 29 2005, 09:01 PM

I didn't taste any more wormwood in Pernod (alleged) Absinthe alleged absinthe than I did in the Ksarak, so I thought I would cite a product slightly more analogous to the Ksarak, although no insult to the Ksarak was intended.

Posted by: SoulShade Nov 29 2005, 09:36 PM

Absomphe, now I gotta try it! -s

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 29 2005, 09:59 PM

I don't think you'll be disappointed, SoulShade...

Ksarak is distilled from a pure grape alcohol base, and it contains only high grade green anise...I wish it were traditionally distilled with a few more herbs (including wormwood, and fennel) to add complexity, but hey...then it would be an absintheur's dream, and where would we go from there, except more of the same!

Posted by: SoulShade Nov 29 2005, 10:16 PM

What's your favorite way to drink it? (Here come the jokes, "I'll tell you how he likes it..!") -s

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 29 2005, 10:20 PM

I'm a purist, and I treat such a respectable effort the same way I would a fine absinthe...just a slow drizzle of water, and no sugar...as I already indicated, there is a lot of fine green anise in this potable, and it is plenty sweet (but not cloying at all) without the addition of any sugar.

Of course, if you desire your Ksarak flambe style... harhar.gif

Posted by: Grim Nov 30 2005, 07:02 AM

QUOTE(pierreverte @ Nov 29 2005, 09:41 AM) *

the lebanese are certainly masters of distilling their own wine and then redistilling it with fine syrian green anise afterward. and 53%, just like la bleue...what's that all about? but don't think it hasn't been looked into... poke.gif

Come on, Peter, tell us!

Posted by: Wild Bill Turkey Nov 30 2005, 10:46 AM

From the mission liquors website blurb on Ksarak:

QUOTE
100 Proof • Product of Lebanon. • 750ml
This pure grape alcohol is redistilled in a specially designed alembic in France with the aniseed.



Posted by: AndrewT Nov 30 2005, 01:57 PM

QUOTE(Absomphe @ Nov 29 2005, 02:01 PM) *

I didn't taste any more wormwood in Pernod (alleged) Absinthe alleged absinthe than I did in the Ksarak, so I thought I would cite a product slightly more analogous to the Ksarak, although no insult to the Ksarak was intended.


The sample I tried at LF05 tasted like it had wormwood in the coloration step (regardless of whether it actually had a coloration step).

QUOTE(SoulShade @ Nov 29 2005, 03:16 PM) *

What's your favorite way to drink it? (Here come the jokes, "I'll tell you how he likes it..!") -s


Traditionally, it's drank 50/50 with water. Not sure about temperature, but I assume they still prefer ice water.

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 30 2005, 02:08 PM

QUOTE(Wild Bill Turkey @ Nov 30 2005, 03:46 AM) *

From the mission liquors website blurb on Ksarak:
QUOTE
100 Proof • Product of Lebanon. • 750ml
This pure grape alcohol is redistilled in a specially designed alembic in France with the aniseed.



It's actually 106 proof, just like most la bleues.

Posted by: pierreverte Nov 30 2005, 07:48 PM

and they most surely mean that the alambic came from france as opposed to it actually being distilled in france.(lebanon was governed by france in the early 1900's but after absinthe was banned).

my bottle of ksark has 'product of lebanon' on the label.



Posted by: hartsmar Dec 2 2005, 07:58 PM

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Posted by: hartsmar Dec 3 2005, 08:42 PM

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Posted by: AndrewT Dec 14 2005, 11:27 PM

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Posted by: Assstomp Dec 14 2005, 11:40 PM

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Once Were Nostrils

Posted by: AndrewT Dec 15 2005, 12:43 AM

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Posted by: Assstomp Dec 15 2005, 12:56 AM

"And for what it's worth, I got some nice secondaries off of it."


That makes six of us.

See what we mean? sleepy.gif

Posted by: Donnie Darko Dec 15 2005, 02:14 AM

I bet there's nutmeg in it.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Dec 15 2005, 02:18 AM

QUOTE(AndrewT @ Dec 14 2005, 07:27 PM) *

Un Emile 68% (new version)

Reviewed by AndrewT 12/14/05

COLOR BEFORE WATER 1/10
Still a very pale yellow. In the thinner parts of the glass, it looks clear.


This is something I could use clarification on. I thought most scores lower than 5 were if the drink were artificially coloured. Even though Emile is particularly weak in the colour category, only 1 point for a naturally (albeit poorly) coloured absinthe seems harsh to me. Would La Fee score higher than Emile because it's greener, even though that green is fake? Or would La Fee get a zero?

Posted by: AndrewT Dec 15 2005, 02:32 AM

I would rate La Fee's color higher than Un Emile's. I've seen naturally colored absinthes as green as La Fee, so the color itself is not bad. I would probably give it a 6 for lack of the depth that natural greens have. I've seen absinthes that were purposefully made a lighter color, but they were rich and had depth to them. I can only assume that Un Emile is supposed to be green, but instead ends up looking like diluted toilet water.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Dec 15 2005, 02:43 AM

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Posted by: hartsmar Dec 15 2005, 07:12 AM

Speaking about color... Rating the La Fée higher than Un Emile is no problem, the problem is that rating the - naturally (but poorly maybe) colored Un Emile lower than say, Hill's - that's a problem. The Un Emile certainly goes above a 1/10. I doubt anyone can say that the Un Emile has the worst color ever of any absinthes reviewed here.

Posted by: Ari Dec 15 2005, 07:31 AM

Although when rating the old UE45 I gave it a much higher score than 1 I do agree with the complaint in color. Even if the new 68 is twice as good as the UE45 color I have still seen white wine that was greener than UE.

Posted by: kevangogh Dec 16 2005, 01:07 PM

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Posted by: BlackHit Dec 16 2005, 02:24 PM

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Posted by: Donnie Darko Dec 16 2005, 04:11 PM

QUOTE(BlackHit @ Dec 16 2005, 10:24 AM) *

indicating that presence of star anise and probably a bit of badiane.


I bet it had some lemon balm and melissa in there too. harhar.gif

Posted by: absinthespoon Dec 16 2005, 05:05 PM

Star anise IS badiane, n'est-ce pas? stanise.gif

Posted by: absinthespoon Dec 16 2005, 05:09 PM

Also, you should try to copy the format of the other reviews exactly, before Artemis gets cranky on your ass.

i.e.:

QUOTE
COLOR BEFORE WATER 3/10

not
QUOTE
10 COLOR BEFORE WATER 3

etc.

Posted by: Assstomp Dec 16 2005, 07:37 PM

QUOTE(Donnie Darko @ Dec 16 2005, 09:11 AM) *



I bet it had some lemon balm and melissa in there too. harhar.gif


It's Lasala, so Lemon Pledge, by any other names... het.gif

Posted by: Spoon Jan 8 2006, 01:27 AM

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Posted by: Spoon Jan 9 2006, 12:10 AM

Browsing a few reviews others have done for other absinthes, I realize I have been more critical and stingy with points than others. Let me make clear, I like this absinthe very much, and would highly recommend it. Perhaps I over-penalized on aroma and taste.

Posted by: grey boy Jan 9 2006, 01:45 AM

No, I think there's too much leeway being given
and not enough critical reviwing being done.

Posted by: Assstomp Jan 9 2006, 02:01 AM

Agreed.

I was tempted to go higher numerically in my assessment of Montmartre 65 #2, for example, but I kept in mind my review of the distiller's proof of the Jade Edouard (which, in retrospect was more than a bit generous), and decided to restrain myself in the numbers department, and let my verbal descriptors do the talking.

Posted by: zachM Jan 9 2006, 06:37 AM

The Helfrich looks nice indeed. Shall try and acquire a sample.

Posted by: Helfrich Jan 10 2006, 10:58 PM

Actually I liked the October batch way better than the one stamped "02 DEC 2005". It was more concentrated, richer, louche and mouthfeel were thick, but it was a tiny little bit impure. The recipe remains the same while Rijneveen's results notably diverge. I still prefer the "basement version", but I'm not supposed to mention that here. I'll be able to distil it myself legally in due time. Nevertheless, your mileage may vary but I'm glad you like it, Steve.

Posted by: Spoon Jan 11 2006, 12:25 AM

Serge, I like it very much. I hope you will scale up the production and get LDF and/or Markus to carry it. I would definitely buy it regularly. Is the blanche version out yet?

Posted by: Assstomp Jan 11 2006, 12:36 AM

It sounds very appealing.

I'm definitely in for a few bottles if LDF or Markus decides to carry it.

Posted by: zachM Jan 11 2006, 02:05 AM

I would go for a bottle. The color from the website looks intresting. Not sure about anything else on the site. Bablefish didnt do a good job translateing it.

Posted by: hartsmar Jan 23 2006, 09:37 PM

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Posted by: hartsmar Jan 23 2006, 09:46 PM

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Posted by: Gertz Jan 23 2006, 09:54 PM

QUOTE(hartsmar @ Jan 23 2006, 11:37 PM) *

La Ptite Absinthe du Val de Travers 53% - Distilled by Gaudentia Persoz in Couvet, Switzerland.

... who happens to be kinda cute. I'd probably add a point or two on that account.

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Posted by: hartsmar Jan 23 2006, 10:18 PM

Hmmm interesting. She ought to get new shoes though.

Posted by: Assstomp Jan 23 2006, 10:46 PM

Could you manage a couple of pics of the Eichelberger from neat through the louche, Hartsmar?

It sounds tasty, sort of like the second distillation of the Montmartre, but without the cinnamon.

Posted by: hartsmar Jan 24 2006, 06:00 AM

Here, scroll down a bit and you'll find plenty: http://www.absinth-guide.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=1438&threadview=0&hilight=&hilightuser=0&page=1

Posted by: Grim Jan 24 2006, 07:36 AM

QUOTE(hartsmar @ Jan 23 2006, 03:46 PM) *

Eichelberger Limited Edition (Absinth-guide.de Sonderausgabe 2005), 68% - Distilled by the Eichelberger distillery in co-operation with and based on the recipe by Deep Forest.

Reviewed by Hartsmar 01/23/06

COLOR BEFORE WATER 7/10
Olive-tint green. Nice and natural.

LOUCHE ACTION 7/10
Nice slow rising louche ending up in a thick nicely louched glass of absinthe.

COLOR AFTER WATER 8/10
Light green, entirely opaque.


Hartsmar scores Eichelberger Limited (Deep Forest) 81 out of 100.

Just curious, but what would bang outta "10" (in your mind) for each of these categories?

Posted by: hartsmar Jan 24 2006, 09:43 AM

I was thinking about this myself yesterday and could very well have given it 8 or 9 in color. I would like to see it a bit greener and if that would happen I would give it a higher score.

To make a perfect 10 in louche action, I don't know... A bit more spectacular clouding I suppose. Again, I was thinking about it yesterday and now that you mention it I could very well have given this atleast an 8. If the edit button would work I would.

The color after louche would also get a slightly higher point if the original color had been greener and the louched drink would have gotten a bit more of that touch. Without getting "unnatural" though.

The version that will be CO is slightly altered I believe and maybe this is something that has changed in that one.



The score of the Eichelberger could very well be upped with two-three points - without a doubt. That's why I want to the Edit-button! I could've waited with posting the scores until after I had given it more consideration (which I usually do) but I wanted to get it up here...


Posted by: Assstomp Jan 24 2006, 01:37 PM

Looks good, Hartsmar, thanks.

I'm looking forward to the commercial release if and when it becomes available.

Posted by: traineraz Feb 5 2006, 05:23 AM

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Posted by: Assstomp Feb 6 2006, 10:48 PM

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Posted by: AndrewT Feb 9 2006, 12:18 AM

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I almost forgot!

SECONDARIES 7/30
While I did feel a bit lightheaded after drinking a couple glasses, I was nowhere near feeling dasies rubbing against my leg. It must not be made right. Too bad nobody can recreate historically accurate absinthe!

harhar.gif

Posted by: traineraz Feb 9 2006, 02:22 AM

HA!




. . . and glad I wasn't imagining the tails.

Posted by: Assstomp Feb 9 2006, 03:07 AM

Double HA!!

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Mar 15 2006, 09:46 PM

Hi all,

I hope this gets posted in the right thread. I am not only new in reviewing absinthe but in discussion forums as well.

As suggested by Traineraz and Stroller in another thread that I started, here comes my review of the "absinthe" sold by Flaschengeist, www.flaschengeist.de that I received from a friend after she made a trip to Bonn in Germany.

cheers,
Bruno

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Posted by: Assstomp Mar 15 2006, 11:12 PM

poop.gif chickawow.gif


Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Mar 29 2006, 09:47 PM

Hi,

I received today my latest order containing a bottle of Kallnacher Red! While tasting it I wrote a review of it, sort of. Because it is a cocktail that contains absinthe I was unsure of how to give points to louche and color after water. So I left them out as not applicable which was a bit bold maybe—I do like this drink and it would be nice to be able to describe it in a formal review. But what could be the reference drinks in this case? Would there be others than Campari, we for example have here in Finland a bad imitation of Campari but it is sold in 0,7l bottles so I did not buy one for just this purpose. So. I cannot think of many products to compare Kallnacher Red to.

I tried the Kallnacher Red neat in room temperature, with cold water and neat on ice. The total points without louche and color after water can of course be only 80 instead of 100. Please let me know if there is an another scale in which such drinks can be reviewed. So here goes:

Kallnacher Red Absinthe Bitter (Cocktail drink 22%)

COLOR BEFORE WATER 9/10
Wonderful translucent bright red that has some resemblance to fresh strawberry juice. Even though it has got some fluorescent nuance the color seems natural to me. This red color is one of the most delicious I have seen in a drink.

LOUCHE ACTION -/-
Not applicable since this is "pre-louched" in a way, being a mixed drink.

COLOR AFTER WATER -/-
Not applicable, color does not get worse with water however.

AROMA 17/30
Wormwood, anise and other herbal ingredients on top of something fruity. When (still) cold water is added, aroma turns more berry-like and the fruitiness comes forward. The taste and mouth-feel may suffer a little, however.

MOUTH-FEEL 6/10
Sweet, without being sticky on the tongue. Improves with ice. Lingonberry comes first to mind when tasting a drink diluted with cold water in 1:1 ratio, then the taste is very slightly sour but not so that it would disturb. There is a pleasant bitterness which is not dominating. Maybe a little "too easy" to drink if you want something to sip like an absinthe.

TASTE 13/20
Delicious, maybe a little thin. It is not as medicinal as Campari but nevertheless herbal, and well balanced, too.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 8/10
This is a great mix of absinthe and a bitter aperitif, in color, aroma and taste. I like it best neat, on ice –temperature makes quite a difference in the mouth-feel.


TOTAL 53/80


Cheers,
Bruno

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Jul 18 2006, 09:06 PM

Hi again all

Here comes my review of the Emanuelle bulk absinthe. I bought some from the "Vom Fass" shop in Zürich.
I tried it there already, from an antique glass I bought, hopefully that did not affect by extra points...

This review was written in "laboratory conditions" i.e. at home. I did not find a thread for Emanuelle, so I posted it here.

Cheers!
Bruno


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Posted by: hartsmar Jul 26 2006, 07:27 AM

Bruno's review of the Emanuelle is in the Buyer's Guide now, sorry for that delay...

Now, come on and do some more reviewing, people. It's summer - I know you're drinking anyways!

Posted by: Absinthesizer Oct 7 2006, 05:39 AM

This is the only absinthe on the "attention!" list for which I can provide any assistance:

Un Emile la Blanche

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Posted by: pierreverte Oct 7 2006, 09:02 AM

>but the world of absinthe has passed it by.

expect recipe-tweeking, and better plant sources improving and addressing the obvious issues toward all Un Emile absinthes, which have already started since this bottle was made along with new additions (at least one scheduled before xmas) by the new Pernot owners.

Posted by: hartsmar Oct 7 2006, 09:25 AM

That is very true. A lot of improvement is present in the latest batches.
That of course calls for reviews of all of the "new" Un Emile absinthes.
The White Fairy as well...

Posted by: Helfrich Oct 7 2006, 11:12 PM

Surprisingly UE now contains this remarkable fruity wormwood that seems to turn up almost everywhere.

Posted by: mthuilli Oct 9 2006, 01:21 PM

Elie Arnaud Denoix 69°

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Posted by: whizz Oct 9 2006, 07:57 PM

Philippe Lasala 50°

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Posted by: sixela Oct 9 2006, 10:28 PM

Taking two for the team...note I still have the bottles to prove it, though there is now no longer Staroplzenecky in it.

Staroplzenecky Green

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Staroplzenecky Red

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Side note: the bottles are pretty, and make excellent containers for a vinaigrette once you've sinked the content.

Posted by: Absomphe Oct 9 2006, 11:51 PM

Wow, Sixer...

You must finally be paying off some pretty horrible karmic baggage from a past life.

My heart goes out to you. abs-cheers.gif

Posted by: Wild Bill Turkey Oct 10 2006, 05:58 AM

Mari Mayans 70

While the sales quote that accompanies this absinthe on at least one website states that it is 100% natural, and made according to an original 19th century recipe, I believe the coloring is in fact artificial, and that it is absinthe of the mixed & macerated type.

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Posted by: hartsmar Oct 10 2006, 06:13 AM

Well, Mari Mayans is certainly artificially colored but is infact, to my knowledge, otherwise distilled.
Question is if it is distilled in the way WE consider "distilled" or if it is water-distilled herbs mixed together. Oh well.

Posted by: Wild Bill Turkey Oct 10 2006, 06:15 AM

I just went by the index, which lists it as mixed & macerated.

Posted by: hartsmar Oct 10 2006, 06:27 AM

Yes, I know - and I do the same on my site. This is because I have yet to get the info on hand 100% verified.

Posted by: hartsmar Oct 10 2006, 06:30 AM

Absinthesizer... Can you please verify to me that the Un Emile La Blanche you reviewed is the "old" version?

Posted by: Oxygenee Oct 10 2006, 06:49 AM

QUOTE(sixela @ Oct 10 2006, 02:28 AM) *

Taking two for the team...note I still have the bottles to prove it, though there is now no longer Staroplzenecky in it.


Thank you Sixela for making the supreme sacrifice...



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Posted by: sixela Oct 10 2006, 07:47 AM

We all know the supreme sacrifice is Zelena Musa (or alternatively any of the Kings of Spirits), but I'm not going to buy any bottles of those (at least Staro comes in nice looking bottles, which certainly cannot be said of KOS).

Staroplznecky? " 't Is but a flesh wound ", cries the Black Knight.

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Oct 11 2006, 09:32 PM

I was unsure of where to post this so I put it here. There is a Libertine thread with one review (at the time of this writing) by Gertz but the Libertine 55 I have reviewed was manufactured by J.P. Gisselbrecht (68150 Ribeauville France) in July 2004 judging from the marking on the bottleneck. Maybe this review of mine is not so useful in the Buyer's Guide if there aren't many bottles from this manufacturer around anymore. This was bought last summer from Denmark.

BRs Bruno

- * -

COLOR BEFORE WATER 4/10
Yellow.

LOUCHE ACTION 2/10
Weak louche starts in the middle. No effects at all.

COLOR AFTER WATER 3/10
Transparent greenish yellow.

AROMA 4/30
Before water: Strong bitter aroma with some anise.
After water: Weaker, still a bitter aroma foremost.

MOUTH-FEEL 2/10
Unpleasant, difficult to say anything nice or specific about it.

TASTE 4/20
Bitter, nothing nice here, either. I doubt if it is even good for mixing
with anything.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 3/10
Unfortunately this drink is not absinthe, it is too bitter and does not
have the herbal aroma and taste that an absinthe should have.
Maybe the new version is better, as said this bottle is 2 years
old already. The packaging and labelling is nice but as we are
judging the contents, and the contents only, the verdict is: bad.


TOTAL 22/100

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Oct 15 2006, 09:21 PM

...and here comes my Serpis 55 review.

This was difficult. I have a short supply of adjectives to start with and then this. Serpis seems to define its own. Serpish?

Serpis Absinth 55% ABV
Licores Sinc S.A., Spain

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Posted by: Alyssa Dyane Oct 16 2006, 04:38 AM

This may be a stupid question, so forgive me.. Is Serpis an oil mix? I have heard compellng arguements on both sides of that answer. Could someone please enlighten me?

Posted by: hartsmar Oct 16 2006, 06:41 AM

It is distilled but artificially colored. Their exact distilling "technique" I know nothing about though...

Posted by: sixela Oct 16 2006, 07:59 AM

QUOTE(Alyssa Dyane @ Oct 16 2006, 06:38 AM) *

This may be a stupid question, so forgive me.. Is Serpis an oil mix? I have heard compellng arguements on both sides of that answer. Could someone please enlighten me?



IIRC, Serpis 55 is an oil mix and 65 is distilled. The 65 is also a lot better.

As for its colouring, I don't know if cochineal really is an "artificial" colouring agent. It's certainly not synthetic, but it's obviously not derived from steeping herbs into alcohol wink.gif.

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Oct 16 2006, 09:52 AM

Thanks for the info, Sixela. I would like to try the Serpis 65, too. Good that it is available in 0,1 l bottles from Markus Lion at least.

On the other hand 39 euros for a one litre bottle is reasonable -- I might even buy that... but then, the color (and in particular the dye):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochineal

I sure aint gonna drink nuthin' with them bugs in it!





just kidding.

// BR

Posted by: sixela Oct 16 2006, 11:16 AM

QUOTE(Bruno Rygseck @ Oct 16 2006, 11:52 AM) *

I sure aint gonna drink nuthin' with them bugs in it!


Be sure to send me your bottles of Campari.

You prefer something a bit more carcinogenic, perhaps?

Posted by: Absomphe Oct 16 2006, 04:57 PM

You're missin' out on some pretty fine mezcals there too, buddy!

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Oct 16 2006, 08:17 PM

Nah, I'm fine with the cochineal... by the way I just started thinking that I could have given actually one point more for the color. Strictly taken, the instruction on the evaluation form (1) lists red as an acceptable color (2) instructs to penalize faults in color. So Serpis would be "entitled" to more points because I could not find any "faults" and personal preference for/against red color could be put in the Overall impression figure. Nit-picking maybe.

Absomphe: If only our gov't monopoly sold any but alas, no. No worms or wood or anything in their bottles.

And speaking of carcinogenic dyes, it is the sky-blue Czechs that worry me more...



Posted by: hartsmar Oct 17 2006, 11:21 AM

Just so you all know, it's not like I've forgotten about all this... We asked for reviews and they will all be included in their own threads. There's a perfectly good reason for why this haven't happened yet and you'll all figure that out soon...

Have patience and keep the reviews coming.

Posted by: Absinthesizer Oct 23 2006, 03:12 AM

QUOTE(hartsmar @ Oct 10 2006, 01:30 AM) *

Absinthesizer... Can you please verify to me that the Un Emile La Blanche you reviewed is the "old" version?
Yes - purchased in December 2005.

Finally opened the Clandestine last week. Now, that was a pleasant experience!

Posted by: hartsmar Oct 23 2006, 09:09 AM

Thank you. I'll get to merging your review to the correct thread in a while.

As for the rest of you people, please keep reviewing. Whatever brand it is you have sitting at home, rate it.

Posted by: justabob Oct 26 2006, 06:36 PM

Pernod 68

Reviewed by Justabob 10/26/2006

(And the review can now be found http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=2741&view=findpost&p=96636. Ed. note)

Posted by: Jaded Prol Oct 26 2006, 06:49 PM

You're too generous.

Posted by: justabob Oct 26 2006, 07:00 PM

Your prolly right jp, but i have been drinking all this low end stuff as of late and last night it tasted way better than the Deva I had the night before.

Posted by: traineraz Oct 26 2006, 07:06 PM

. . . given the number of reviews, you're drunk. abs-cheers.gif

Posted by: hartsmar Oct 26 2006, 08:21 PM

Well, just now drinking a glass of newly reviewed Brut d'alambic. Need that after reviewing the Père Kermann. WHY GOD!? WHY?!

Posted by: justabob Oct 27 2006, 05:45 AM

QUOTE(traineraz @ Oct 26 2006, 12:06 PM) *

. . . given the number of reviews, you're drunk. abs-cheers.gif


Well the only co I have left to review is a small sample of Jade Verte Swiss I got from a friend. But I had a few beers with the boys tonight so me thinks it will have to wait till tomorrow when my palate is clean.

When The Artisinale becomes available I will surely give that one a proper review.

Posted by: Absinthesizer Oct 27 2006, 05:51 AM

No new ground here, but what the heck:

Editor's note:
Review for Blanche de Fougerolles is moved in http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=2289&view=findpost&p=78765.

And the review for Eichelberger Verte has been moved in http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3081&view=findpost&p=104430.



Posted by: justabob Oct 27 2006, 06:15 AM

Nice reviews

Posted by: hartsmar Oct 27 2006, 06:38 AM

Some pick-up line!

Posted by: justabob Oct 27 2006, 04:58 PM

Yep, works for me. Hey look at the reviews on that babe

Posted by: justabob Oct 29 2006, 10:43 PM

Jade Verte Suisse

Reviewed by Justabob 10/29/2006

COLOR BEFORE WATER 8/10
Very nice medium green with no trace of sediment. I am however reviewing from a small decanted sample.

LOUCHE ACTION 9/10
Using a very slow drip from a fountain and diluting at 3:1, the louch is excellent. Gradient swirls appear at about 1:1 and continue to form a lovely nearly opaque finish.

COLOR AFTER WATER 9/10
Outstanding natural color only slightly off white.

AROMA 25/30
At 65 degree alcohol content the nose when sampled neat is very nice, anise and hyssop seem evident here with an alluring spiciness that can only be released with the addition of cold water. When diluted more complexity is evident, coriander comes to mind.

MOUTH-FEEL 8/10
The feel on the palete is full, but not what I would call thick.

TASTE 16/20
The taste is very definitely absinthe. Packs a nice herbal punch. Green anise is predominant. The taste tells me some roots were used, perhaps licorice or angelica. The mild bitterness lingers on the palate as well as the base alcohol, which was not what I was expecting.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 8/10
This is the first Jade product I have sampled and was quite pleased. It is a herbal powerhouse and similar to some artisanal products I have sampled. I did not notice any of the funk others of commented on with this absinthe. However I think the marc base spirit that Ted uses my not be to everyones liking.

justabob rates Jade Verte Suisse 83 out of 100

Posted by: justabob Oct 29 2006, 11:17 PM

That shoots my co wad for a bit.

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Nov 5 2006, 09:52 PM

Absenta Tunel, green

80% ABV. 40 cl mini bottle, one of three (the others are Red and Black).

From the box containing the bottles:

Antonio Nadal Destilleries
Elaborado en España por ANTONIO NADAL, S.A.
C/. Conradors, 22-24
07141 Marratxi (Mallorca)

www.antonionadal.com
www.tunel.com


Reviewed by Bruno Rygseck 11/5/2006

COLOR BEFORE WATER 6/10
Deep green, artificial most likely. Quite good, no gimmicky effects, just simply clear green.

LOUCHE ACTION 0/10
No louche at all.

COLOR AFTER WATER 1/10
The color got weaker, it is transparent.

AROMA 2/30
Before water, minty alcohol. After water it just got weaker.

MOUTH-FEEL 2/10
Very much like diluted unflavored alcohol.

TASTE 3/20
Bitter, with a little anise. Just enough so it can be spotted in the taste.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 3/10
Too weak in everything but color before water. It would require more herbal punch to be considered
an absinthe. And the bitterness is not good, no.

Bruno Rygseck scores Absenta Tunel, green 17 out of 100

Posted by: Spoon Nov 6 2006, 01:38 AM

Jade Verte Suisse

Reviewed by Spoon 10/29/2006

COLOR BEFORE WATER 9/10
Lovely clear bright chartreuse. I compared it with a bottle of green chartreuse, and it's almost exactly the same color, perhaps a little lighter. No trace of sediment in the glass, but I always take the precaution of inverting the bottle several times to make sure sediment does not collect in the bottom of the bottle. This bottle is stamped JUN 2006.

LOUCHE ACTION 9/10
I used a very slow drip from a fountain with lots of ice in it. I diluted only until the clear line at the top disappeared, maybe 2:1. I don't measure so I'm not sure. The louche develops quickly and is very pretty. I watched the cloudiness appear in the bottom of the glass, white trails swirling around clear green then quickly becoming quite thick.

COLOR AFTER WATER 8/10
Lovely off white creaminess with a hint of yellow-green, fading to white at the meniscus.

AROMA 25/30
Lovely herbal aroma before adding water. The marc alcohol is also quite apparent, and is very nice. After adding water the alcohol recedes and a lovely herbal bouquet develops.

MOUTH-FEEL 8/10
Creamy mouth-feel, not at all thin. Nice and satisfying.

TASTE 16/20
Well-balanced taste. Rather sweet and anisy, fennely upfront with a nice dry finish.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 8/10
One of my all-time favorites. I don't drink it often, but when I do I always enjoy it very much. I like to always have a bottle available. I don't give it a 9 because I prefer to leave room at the top. I trust that there are even better products to come.

Spoon rates Jade Verte Suisse 83 out of 100

Posted by: hartsmar Nov 6 2006, 08:38 AM

Ok, I have added the last few reviews now.
I haven't yet updated the review threads in here with the new ones, but the Buyer's Guide is updated.
So, that's why the reviews are still in here...

Thank you all for the effort! Keep 'em coming!
I will do a bunch this week myself.

Posted by: peridot Nov 6 2006, 11:12 PM

Jacques Senaux Black

From Alandia: 85% alcohol combined with wormwood and a merciless black color will start your psychadelic dreams. The Absinthe itself comes in a heavy glass bottle with a wooden cork.

Reviewed by peridot 11/6/2006

COLOR BEFORE WATER 5/10
It's dark, purplish red. The colour is much like red wine and kind of pretty. However, it's very artificial.

LOUCHE ACTION 5/10
This absinthe has a strange louche. Nothing happens until 1.5:1, but then louches totally by 2:1. Instead of clouding gradually from the bottom it just morphs almost as though from flipping a switch.

COLOR AFTER WATER 3/10
Dramatic difference from before. Horrendously ugly purplish grey. It looks like cigarette ashes mixed in milk, but darker.

AROMA 5/30
Before water the aroma is nothing but star anise and strong alcohol. After water it changes to black jelly beans. I'm serious here. It's like liquorice candy in every way.

MOUTH-FEEL 6/10
Fairly creamy, but too mouth-numbing. It's like going to the dentist.

TASTE 6/20
There's a loud, bitter wormwood punch that's more pencil shavings than floral. A black jelly bean flavour is enhanced by unnecessary sweetness. For being 170 proof the alcohol is surprisingly subdued in the taste. Unfortunately there's a strange, chalky flavour I can't identify. It has a chemical character and is horribly off-putting.

OVERALL IMPRESSION 3/10
My theory on the creation of this absinthe: the maker learned the most basic points of what absinthe is supposed to be (tastes of anise and wormwood, has a high proof, and louches with water) and tried to take them to their furthest extremes.

PERSONAL NOTES
When I first tried this brand I had not had a whole lot of absinthe and I honestly liked it. The metalhead in me loved the extreme ridiculousness of it. More often than not I sipped it neat and I still think it's drinkable that way. However, the horrible chalky taste released during the louche makes the flavour truly awful. At least the bottle is really cool.

peridot scores Jacques Senaux Black 33 out of 100

Posted by: peridot Nov 6 2006, 11:30 PM

Editor's note: Review for Absinthe NS70 is merged into its own review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=4137&view=findpost&p=132706.

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 7 2006, 03:24 PM

Doubs Absinthe:
Review of Doubs Premium Absinthe is merged into the Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/south-africa/doubs_absinthe/.

Posted by: hartsmar Nov 7 2006, 03:43 PM

Updated the guide with that one. Thank you Absomphe!

Posted by: Oxygenee Nov 7 2006, 04:00 PM

QUOTE(Absomphe @ Nov 7 2006, 07:24 PM) *

Doubs Absinthe

COLOR BEFORE WATER 4/10

Obviously artificial, but this is such a deep, vibrant shade of emerald that I had to give it an extra point just for its aesthetic appeal, This is what I wish naturally colored absinthe could look like.



You can get that colour naturally. Of course, you need two master distillers.






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Posted by: Absinthesizer Nov 7 2006, 04:03 PM

Okay, where's the emoticon for "salivating"?

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 7 2006, 04:05 PM

lee.gif

Posted by: AndrewT Nov 7 2006, 04:11 PM

QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Nov 7 2006, 09:00 AM) *

You can get that colour naturally. Of course, you need two master distillers.


How about two Master Alchemists?

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 7 2006, 04:27 PM

Impossible.

He was a real wein...er, I mean oner.

Posted by: traineraz Nov 7 2006, 09:43 PM

I thought color was to be scored on its appearance, not on whether it is believed to be natural or artificial.

If the color is ideal, shouldn't it be 10/10, not 4/10?

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 8 2006, 01:01 AM

In such an extreme case as this, I don't think so.

If I'd ever seen a single example of a naturally colored absinthe with that shade of emerald, I might have scored it differently (irrespective of Oxy's two master distillers gem, which was only revealed after I completed the review).

The color of the Doubs, while beautiful, in its way, doesn't translate into appetizing for me. In other words, when I looked at that shade, it screamed artificial, which didn't entice me into craving a taste of it. Therefore, I refused to consider giving it anywhere close to ten.

Posted by: Wild Bill Turkey Nov 8 2006, 02:41 AM

This is a funny area for scoring. In my review for Mari Mayans, I gave it a low score for pre-louche color, because even a novice can tell from across the street that it can't possibly be a natural color. But I gave it a higher score for post-louche color, because during the louche, the color magically becomes very much more natural-looking. I personally would do the opposite for Doubs, because the color is so lovely before the louche, but stays unnaturally green afterward.

It seems like having separate scores for color before and after louche is more likely to be a factor in scoring artificially-colored absinthes. I think that most distilled absinthes with natural coloring will retain the quality of their coloring, good or bad, after the application of water, whereas artificial colorings can react differently when diluted.

Posted by: brucer Nov 8 2006, 07:17 AM

Very good point, Wild Bill.

Pernod 68, for example, has a sophisticated pleasant color pre-louche. It is nowhere near "emerald" green, but it is pleasant enough and looks sophisticated (ie not dreadful artificial). Post louche, however, it looks like dirty dish water.

Bruce

Posted by: Oxygenee Nov 8 2006, 09:58 AM

QUOTE(Wild Bill Turkey @ Nov 8 2006, 06:41 AM) *

It seems like having separate scores for color before and after louche is more likely to be a factor in scoring artificially-colored absinthes. I think that most distilled absinthes with natural coloring will retain the quality of their coloring, good or bad, after the application of water, whereas artificial colorings can react differently when diluted.


This is precisely the intention. One or the other of the two categories will catch out an artificially coloured absinthe.

Posted by: peridot Nov 9 2006, 11:30 PM

Charlotte la Clandestine recette Marianne

Editors note: Review merged into Buyer's Guide...

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 10 2006, 01:07 AM

QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Nov 7 2006, 09:00 AM) *

QUOTE(Absomphe @ Nov 7 2006, 07:24 PM) *

Doubs Absinthe

COLOR BEFORE WATER 4/10

Obviously artificial, but this is such a deep, vibrant shade of emerald that I had to give it an extra point just for its aesthetic appeal, This is what I wish naturally colored absinthe could look like.



You can get that colour naturally. Of course, you need two master distillers.



Sacre bleue...I mean verte!!!

You were teasing us with a shot of the 1797 there, and most of us hadn't a clue.

It looks beyooteeful, you sly devil! worshippy.gif

Posted by: G&C Nov 10 2006, 01:08 AM

He still isn't going to send you a freebie, you know.

Posted by: traineraz Nov 10 2006, 02:54 AM

...™

Posted by: G&C Nov 10 2006, 02:58 AM

No, no Frisbee either Trainer.



Posted by: thegreenimp Nov 10 2006, 03:11 AM

QUOTE
Sacre bleue...I mean verte!!!

You were teasing us with a shot of the 1797 there, and most of us hadn't a clue.

It looks beyooteeful, you sly devil!


You should see it's Birthday on DVD. harhar.gif

Posted by: Absomphe Nov 16 2006, 10:47 PM

Review merged into review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3761&view=findpost&p=123208 and Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/france/1797/.

Posted by: mthuilli Nov 24 2006, 01:40 PM

Review merged into review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3853&view=findpost&p=125855 and Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/france/wormwood_blanche/.

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Dec 17 2006, 10:58 PM

Review of Jade Verte Suisse 65 merged into review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3854&view=findpost&p=125856 and Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/france/jade_verte_suisse_65/.

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Dec 19 2006, 10:34 PM

QUOTE(Bruno Rygseck @ Dec 18 2006, 12:58 AM) *

Jade Verte Suisse 65% ABV

My review was of course about the production version Jade VS for which I couldn't find a thread in the Forum Guide, so I posted it here. Apologies if I missed something, but I could only find the distiller's proof VS thread...

BR

Posted by: Neptunati Dec 29 2006, 10:37 AM

Review of Clandestine Franco Suisse (Recette Marianne) is merged into review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3855&view=findpost&p=125857 and Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/switzerland/clandestine_franco_suisse_rece/.


Posted by: Jaded Prol Dec 29 2006, 03:16 PM

Based on your previous experiences, it seems you've graduated to a quality absinthe. Many more delights await.

Posted by: fryke Dec 29 2006, 09:02 PM

Tongue-numbing, however, is *not* generally considered a _good_ quality in absinthe.

Posted by: Alyssa Dyane Dec 29 2006, 09:41 PM

I really do enjoy the Franco Suisse, myself - but I would be curious to see if you still score it a 92 after trying more brands.

Posted by: Absomphe Dec 30 2006, 12:14 AM

I seriously doubt it.

Posted by: Neptunati Dec 31 2006, 06:42 AM




I knew some people wouldn't be happy with my review. Its OK. I have seen vintage post a highest of what 97 I think in the buyers guide. One man's trash is another's treasure as the cliche goes. OK 92 is a lil high, I was a lil tanked while writing the review. Franco is every bit deserving of at least a ninety in MY book. Got to admit it won gold in a blind taste test two years running. Question, Has Ted B ever put any of his jades in that contest? Anyone ever had the Franco Suisse and the Duplais Blanche/vert? How do these compare?

Posted by: peridot Dec 31 2006, 07:25 AM

I like the FrancoSuisse. I don't like it 92 but I do like it.

However, I think the judging at the Absinthiades (to which I assume you're referring) is a dumb joke. Their results are totally off the wall.

Posted by: AndrewT Jan 4 2007, 05:09 AM

I'm surprised there aren't topics started for either of these.

Jade PF 1901:
Review of Jade PF 1901 merged into review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3852&view=findpost&p=125854 and Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/france/jade_pf_1901/.


Un Emile Rouge:
Review of Un Emile Rouge has been merged into review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=3856&st=0#entry125858 and the Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/france/un_emile_rouge/.

Posted by: mthuilli Jan 4 2007, 07:31 AM

81/100 blink.gif

That's a little harsh.

Posted by: Alan Jan 4 2007, 10:08 AM

QUOTE(Neptunati @ Dec 29 2006, 03:37 AM) *

Neptunati scores Clandestine Franco Suisse 92 out of 100 absintheglass-glow2.gif

That's a little harsh.

Posted by: mthuilli Jan 4 2007, 11:03 AM

But Neptunati is a newbie who has only tried czechs and Pernod so far so he is excusable, Andrew has had a few more.

Posted by: hartsmar Jan 4 2007, 11:08 AM

Hmmm... I thought I had started threads for those. I'll get to that.
Regarding thr Franco suisse vs Duplais Blanche, I personally like the Duplais Blanche better, simply because there are just so many La Bleue's out there that they tend to become... hold on... Cloying and obvious. wink.gif The Franco Suisse is a good absinthe though, no doubt.

The tastings at the Absinthiades are a little so-so. This year was better organised than ever before, that's for sure.

Regarding Ted's absinthes in the Absinthiades. Combier/Jade entered the Blanchette this year and got Gold.

I'll update the Guide and create threads for those not yet started during this week.

Posted by: mthuilli Jan 4 2007, 11:25 AM

QUOTE(hartsmar @ Jan 4 2007, 12:08 PM) *

I'll update the Guide and create threads for those not yet started during this week.


It was about time, do you have a life outside FV or what ??? evill.gif

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 4 2007, 01:41 PM

QUOTE(mthuilli @ Jan 4 2007, 12:31 AM) *

81/100 blink.gif

That's a little harsh.


I agree.

I can see why Andrew might interpret an aspect of the 1901 as funky, but, to me, it's completely attributable to the marc base that Ted uses, rather than some flaw in the distilling process, and I think "musky" might be a better description. I think that it does tend to slightly overpower some of the more subtle flavor nuances present, but much less so than the actual funkiness, or burntness™ of a couple the early Jade releases. That being said, I like that musky quality, and it certainly gives the 1901 a depth not found inother commercial releases.

As to you starting threads for those, Hartsmar, I thought you had, as well, at least for the PF 1901.

I know I reviewed it, and gave it a 92, but now I can't find the review anywhere when I perform a search. I also remember going over the Guide recently, and finding nine reviews I had done, including the 1901, which I was certain was grouped with at least one other review in a separate thread....now there are only eight, and there's no record of my ever having reviewed it.

It's an X-File, I tell you! shock.gif

I guess I'll re-review it at some point, but only if you promise that it won't disappear again. wink.gif

Posted by: hartsmar Jan 4 2007, 03:21 PM

Yes, that IS odd. I actually thought so too.
I'll check it out.

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 4 2007, 03:26 PM

Thanks, viking_emoticon.gif!

Posted by: mthuilli Jan 4 2007, 03:26 PM

http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=3768

Eric's on page 1
Absomphe's on page 3

Secondary effects I tell ya

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 4 2007, 03:30 PM

I guess those reviews weren't officially transferred to the actual Absinthe Buyer's Guide, but they almost made it.

You are definitely the Sheerluck Holmes of Fee Verte, Mthuilli! abs-cheers.gif

Posted by: G&C Jan 4 2007, 03:37 PM

He just knows how to use the search feature.

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 4 2007, 03:39 PM

I tried searching under PF 1901 and Absomphe about an hour ago, and nothing came up...now it does.

It's a quirky search engine, I tell ya! wacko.gif

Posted by: mthuilli Jan 4 2007, 03:42 PM

I didn't search, I just clicked on "Absinthe Brand Reviews" and then on the 7th topic abs-cheers.gif

The decline, I tell ya

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 4 2007, 03:45 PM

Yeah, I know, M.

I liked it better when they called it senility.

Posted by: hartsmar Jan 4 2007, 03:53 PM

Yes, found that too...
http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3768&view=findpost&p=123829

But what's more odd is that I do think I included that in the Guide as well..

Oh, never mind.

To make things REAL easy - keep reviews in THIS thread or atleast within this subforum.

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 4 2007, 04:02 PM

Eye eye, Captain! abs-cheers.gif

Posted by: AndrewT Jan 4 2007, 05:18 PM

QUOTE(mthuilli @ Jan 4 2007, 12:31 AM) *

81/100 blink.gif

That's a little harsh.


Yes, it is harsh. That's why it scored so low. harhar.gif

I really do find that background flavor in all the Jades unappetizing. I've had HGs with very noticable but clean wine bases, and it just adds a new flavor into the mix, whether it's too strong or not. The "funk" in Jade seems to infiltrate every other flavor in there. It's something I've never tasted in anything besides Jades, including preban I've been lucky enough to sample. I seriously question how historically accurate that flavor is, and historic or not, I don't enjoy it.

Posted by: Kirk Jan 4 2007, 06:07 PM

It reminds me of limes.

Posted by: Provenance Jan 4 2007, 07:16 PM

QUOTE(mthuilli @ Jan 4 2007, 04:03 AM) *

Andrew has had a few

So did Neptunati.

Posted by: mthuilli Jan 4 2007, 07:27 PM

QUOTE(mthuilli @ Jan 4 2007, 04:03 AM) *

more


Posted by: Provenance Jan 4 2007, 07:34 PM

Given the 92 rating, I'm reluctant to say Andrew had more than Neptunati.

Posted by: AndrewT Jan 6 2007, 01:01 AM

Wormwood Blanche

Reviewed by AndrewT 1/5/2007

[Editor's note: Review of Wormwood Blanche is moved into its correct review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3853&view=findpost&p=125855.]

Posted by: mthuilli Jan 6 2007, 01:11 AM

This is your night tonight Andrew : PF1914, PF1901, 1797 and Wormwood, what next ? abs-cheers.gif

I'm having the PF1901 myself so cheers!

Posted by: AndrewT Jan 6 2007, 02:03 AM

Yep. I just happen to have a couple things coming in all at the same time. I'll write up the 1914 Pernod Fils tomorrow I think.

I am, of course, indebted to the friend who got me samples of the sold out Pernot offerings.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Jan 6 2007, 03:26 AM

It's funny, I actually thought the Jade PF 1901 had the least funk of any of them and was balanced extremely well, probably the best of all the Jades. My only real criticism of it was that I thought it could use a bolder mouth feel and a more saturated colour.

Meanwhile I hated the Emile Rouge so much I couldn't swallow more than two sips. I thought I sent Hartsmar a review of it but it never ended up in the Buyer's guide, so maybe I didn't send it... I think I scored it pretty low. Beautiful ruby colour but tasted like.... eh, you don't want to know.

I guess Hand Rue T and I have different genes for tastebuds...

Posted by: AndrewT Jan 6 2007, 05:08 AM

I guess it seems that way. I seem to recall the N.O. being the least funky Jade for me. Taste is weird.

Posted by: Kirk Jan 6 2007, 02:27 PM

That U.E. rouge is awful.

Posted by: pierreverte Jan 6 2007, 02:34 PM

happily, there happens to be alot of people who love it...the same could be said for many of your creations, too, (though those who think so are too discreet to post that openly) so guess it's more a matter of personal or artistic taste, than black or white reality...

Posted by: hartsmar Jan 6 2007, 04:12 PM

Donnie, I have it.

This is REALLY strange cause I am sure I did include that in the guide. I thought I included that with reviews from mthuilli as well!

Or, I dreamt it all and was too drunk. Though I never get too drunk so...

Now, if anyone feels they have written reviews that aren't in the guide yet, PLEASE let me know as I'll be doing updates this weekend. I'm sorry if I've missed some lately but I've had a ton of stuff on my mind.

Regarding the UE Rouge, I really like it. and the PF 1901 IS by far the best Jade yet.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Jan 6 2007, 04:54 PM

QUOTE(pierreverte @ Jan 6 2007, 10:34 AM) *

happily, there happens to be alot of people who love it...the same could be said for many of your creations, too, (though those who think so are too discreet to post that openly) so guess it's more a matter of personal or artistic taste, than black or white reality...


Personal taste certainly has a lot to do with it, but it seems the above remark has a lot to do with personal issues. Did you distill the Emile Rouge yourself or something? What people's opinions of Kirk's metal work has to do with his opinion of an absinthe escapes me...

Perhaps I read your post wrong, maybe it wasn't intended to be a snipe at Kirk, so forgive me if I am in error.

Posted by: The Standard Deviant Jan 6 2007, 05:00 PM

The Emile Rouge is great.

Posted by: G&C Jan 6 2007, 05:04 PM

If one has no taste buds.

Posted by: pierreverte Jan 6 2007, 05:37 PM

>Personal taste certainly has a lot to do with it, but it seems the above remark has a lot to do with personal issues. Did you distill the Emile Rouge yourself or something?

yes, i did, mostly...

Posted by: G&C Jan 6 2007, 06:05 PM

I just found it to be more of a sour beer than absinthe.


A summer refresher, not a Christmas warm-me-up.

Not what I'm looking for when I'm reaching for Absinthe.

Posted by: Ari Jan 6 2007, 07:00 PM

I thought the rouge was great.

Posted by: AndrewT Jan 6 2007, 07:25 PM

Yeah, I can see where you're coming from G&G. The coloring step gives it a very strange flavor, but I warmed up to it quite a bit during my first glass. I like the idea of rouges tasting significantly different than vertes or blanches, since most HG rouges I've had are basically blanches with a very transparently tasting finishing step (either that or spiced up with cinnamon).

My only real complaint about it was that it needed some other flavor to tie together the floweriness and the wormwood. Maybe more Fennel. That kind of gap in the flavors is why I suggested using sugar, which I think I'll do next time as an experiment.

Posted by: G&C Jan 6 2007, 08:17 PM

I added sugar to it before it got sinked.


I will give it another try, but most likely not until spring or summer.

Posted by: Jaded Prol Jan 6 2007, 09:22 PM

I think it was, well . . . not entirely bad.

As G&C said, a summer refresher.

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 6 2007, 11:18 PM

I'm waiting for the verdict from Headly.

Posted by: Wild Bill Turkey Jan 7 2007, 12:04 AM

I definitely recommend sugar for it, and I never take sugar. As AT said, it helps tie the flavors together. With the sugar, it becomes a very refreshing, enjoyable drink, it just doesn't taste like traditional absinthe. But it isn't Kallnacher Red, either. It's absinthe, just different, like I guess a rouge should be.

Here, I used such almost-frozen water that a slushie pyramid built up on top of my sugar cube:

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Posted by: The Standard Deviant Jan 7 2007, 12:10 AM

Side by side with an HG red absinthe the Emile Rouge was significantly better (it even had a better louche).

(I apologise if this comparison is breaking house rules, but I thought it had to be said.)

Posted by: jmark Jan 19 2007, 01:11 AM

Alandia Gold 68

(from the website) ALANDIA Gold68 uses maximum wormwood for the strongest thujon concentration, but skips anise to avoid a dominating licorice taste.

[Editors note: Review has been moved to its own review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3897&view=findpost&p=127087.]

Posted by: Provenance Jan 19 2007, 01:29 AM

QUOTE(The Standard Deviant @ Jan 6 2007, 05:10 PM) *

Side by side with an HG red absinthe the Emile Rouge was significantly better (it even had a better louche).

(I apologise if this comparison is breaking house rules, but I thought it had to be said.)

I did not know that this type of discussion was against forum rules. This is a pity since I enjoy housemaids. Particularly the ones who like to be spanked.

Posted by: The Standard Deviant Jan 19 2007, 02:31 AM

When I said 'significantly better', I meant the Un Emile Rouge was finished, and the HG red (from a well known HG source) was not, and to the best of my knowledge ended up in a glass mixed with slops from other unfinished drinks. I liked the Emile Rouge, and my girlfriend even more so.

I am not entirely sure what the 'rules' are on this type of discussion. I posted my thoughts as someone had already done so in the thread. I'm sure a clarification will come soon.

Posted by: The Standard Deviant Jan 19 2007, 02:39 AM

Actually, I've just had a quick look. http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=1126&st=0

QUOTE
We have stated in the past that we cannot allow the discussion
of home distillation. We must now insist in more detail that
the discussion of, the (discussion of) purchasing of, posting
photos of, or the reviewing and adoration of any home distillation
product/experiment is STRICTLY PROHIBITED on FeeVerte.


There we go.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Jan 20 2007, 02:09 AM

OK, here's a review of Duplais Balance.

Absinthe Duplais Balance

[Editor's note: Review for Duplais Balance is moved to its own review topic http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3898&view=findpost&p=127088.]

Posted by: Steyr850 Jan 20 2007, 07:07 AM

Very nice review.

The Balance really suits my palate. It is right now, my favorite absinthe.

The only difference of opinion I have, albeit slight, is regarding part of your comments on the louche and aroma. I've finished one bottle to date, and have started in on the second. The louche is variable. It has the potential of being worked both slow and fast with varying results. A slop drip really showcases oil trails up to a point resulting in a nice separation, whereas a thin stream through a dripper will billow in typical Jade fashion. Regarding the scent, I have had several instances where it was clearly apparent within the vicinity of the fountain. Again, no criticism, just relaying my take. Perhaps occurrences bare this out.

Bottom-line, I think Markus has hit one out of the park with this one. It makes me wonder what this absinthe will taste like aged for several decades. I do have a third bottle.

Posted by: Jaded Prol Jan 20 2007, 02:05 PM

Damn! That review caused me to place an order for the balance.

Posted by: Steyr850 Jan 20 2007, 04:47 PM

Really, it sux.

(shhhhh)

Edit - Slop to Slow

Posted by: Donnie Darko Jan 21 2007, 09:51 PM

The sucky shitty taste suits my palate more than any other modern absinthe as well.

Posted by: Steyr850 Jan 22 2007, 02:40 PM

QUOTE(Donnie Darko @ Jan 21 2007, 05:51 PM) *

The sucky shitty taste suits my palate more than any other modern absinthe as well.

I sure hope Markus doesn't try and peddle litre bottles of that xit.

Posted by: Jaded Prol Jan 22 2007, 02:54 PM

The shipping is expensive but I look forward to it's arrival.

Posted by: Steyr850 Jan 22 2007, 04:48 PM

I prolly should have put wink.gif at the end of my last post.

Posted by: Jaded Prol Jan 23 2007, 06:21 PM

Grrr, looks like I'll be waiting a while, I ordered this on Friday and it hasn't even been shipped. If it was LdF I'd probably have it tomorrow for less shipping cost but they don't have the Balance.

Posted by: Provenance Jan 23 2007, 07:18 PM

There have been some delays at LdF due to circumstances beyond their control.

Posted by: Wild Bill Turkey Jan 23 2007, 07:45 PM

True, even LdF has been slow lately, sending out notices that explain it's about airport restrictions. Markus is usually just as fast. Also, I've noticed that Markus often fails to send a shipping confirmation email until the day before the package arrives. He seems to be better at shipping absinthe than he is at sending email.

Posted by: Donnie Darko Jan 23 2007, 08:28 PM

QUOTE(Jaded Prol @ Jan 22 2007, 10:54 AM) *

The shipping is expensive but I look forward to it's arrival.


Dude, you're on the east coast. Whenever I order from Markus, his economy shipping is only 1-2 days slower than LDF usually. Save the $ and go economy. If you're not on the east coast it might take a lot longer and express shipping might be better, but I'm pretty sure it would only be a difference of a few days for your area.

Posted by: Jaded Prol Jan 23 2007, 08:30 PM

Maybe he just hasn't updated the tracking on his sight which says it hasn't been shipped. Anyway, I used to order on the slow ship from FSC years back so it will no doubt be faster than that.

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 23 2007, 10:49 PM

QUOTE(Steyr850 @ Jan 22 2007, 09:48 AM) *

I prolly should have put wink.gif at the end of my last post.


Um, no.

What fun is facetiousness if you always have to wink.gif for clarification?

Posted by: Provenance Jan 23 2007, 10:50 PM

wink.gif

Posted by: G&C Jan 24 2007, 12:10 AM

Indeed.

Posted by: Steyr850 Jan 25 2007, 03:00 AM

QUOTE(Donnie Darko @ Jan 23 2007, 04:28 PM) *

QUOTE(Jaded Prol @ Jan 22 2007, 10:54 AM) *

The shipping is expensive but I look forward to it's arrival.


Dude, you're on the east coast. Whenever I order from Markus, his economy shipping is only 1-2 days slower than LDF usually. Save the $ and go economy.

I've ordered from Markus three times. Twice I've been worried. I've been instructed to just hold my breath.
I'm on the East too. Economy is what seals the deal for me. Two Bottles out the door for $90. Fuck, that's local store prices! I'll keep holding my breath, thank you.

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Jan 28 2007, 08:02 PM

Many thanks to all of you who have provided the marvellous reviews, descriptions and pictures of vintage absinthes and the modern top shelf ones! I, on the other hand, have been exploring the low end, so here comes a few reviews... I did not find a thread for Lamesinthe so I´ll put it here.

cheers///BR

Lamesinthe 45% ABV
Sold by the Alko stores in Finland (as of 2004-2006), bottle size 0,7l.
The Lamesinthe contains 130g/l sugar according to Alko´s laboratory.

Editor's note: Review of L'Amesinthe is moved into its own review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3919&view=findpost&p=127576 and in the http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/france/lamesinthe_1/.

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Jan 28 2007, 08:37 PM

Editor's note: Full review of Tunel Red is moved into its own review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3920&view=findpost&p=127577 and in the http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/spain/tunel_red/.

QUOTE
OVERALL IMPRESSION 0/10
A liquid insult. The extreme bottom end of red absinth buffoonry, the Pennywise amongst those clowns.

Posted by: Absinthesizer Jan 29 2007, 04:43 AM

"A liquid insult." Great phrase!

Posted by: Jaded Prol Jan 29 2007, 01:58 PM

Looks like the Duplais Balance I ordered from Marcus will not be arriving anytime soon: "Customs shipment on hold: Documents wrong/ incomplete " . . .



I'll stick with LdF in the future, lower shipping cost, higher competance.

Posted by: Steyr850 Jan 29 2007, 02:33 PM

That's the same info on my first order with tracking. It took about 3 weeks finally.

The last two orders I used economy. The first was a single bottle order that was delivered in about 3 days. I then ordered two more bottles immediately, which took about 3 weeks. All in all, no orders lost yet.

Take a deep breath and exhale.

Posted by: Jaded Prol Jan 29 2007, 02:54 PM

Still, the point is, for 20 less euros I can get my order on 3 to 5 days through LdF. Unfortunately they don't stock the Balance. My next order will be the PF01 and maybe the Le Ptite.

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 29 2007, 03:05 PM

I'd order a bottle of the Balance, as well, if LDF stocked it.

Eventually, I'm sure they will.

Posted by: Steyr850 Jan 29 2007, 05:59 PM

Are you comparing economy shipping? My two bottle order of Balance was $90 including shipping.

Posted by: Jaded Prol Jan 29 2007, 06:11 PM

I'm talking about courier service, the same kind LdF offers for less. I used to use "economy service" years ago from Fine Spirits Corner but I don't want to wait 3 months. Couriers usually take 3 to 5 days.

Posted by: Steyr850 Jan 29 2007, 08:36 PM

My first courier shipment, having the same tracking notes as yours, took about 3 weeks. Both my recent economy shipments came within 3 weeks, of which the single bottle order came in 3 days. Of course, there's no guarantee, but I was willing to take the chance and it payed off, to the tune of about 50 bucks.

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Jan 29 2007, 09:48 PM

I just jump here in the middle for a second to add the promised, much-waited-for, result of my swill thrill; the end of my Tunel ordeal, the proverbial light at the end of the Tunel Black.

Apologies, sink; I shall scrub you properly now.

Tunel Black 80% ABV
A mini bottle from a package of three. Bought from Spain.

Editor's note: Full review of Tunel Black is moved into its own review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3921&view=findpost&p=127579 and in the http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/spain/absenta_tunel_black/.

Posted by: The Standard Deviant Jan 29 2007, 10:52 PM

Nice.

Posted by: Absomphe Jan 30 2007, 12:19 AM

Now there's the first assbinth that deserves a Winston. chickawow.gif

Posted by: Jaded Prol Jan 30 2007, 12:59 AM

Well my order arrived today in spite of everything. Unfortunately it was the Duplais Blanche. That's wat I get for ordering in less than sober conditions. It's not bad but neither is it impressive. The wife and I did side by side comparisons with BdF as well as a non-commercial blanch from much closer to home. After repeated comparisons it can be definitively stated that we are indeed soused. While we decided that the Duplais blanch was as soft and rich as a down pillow, the Bdf had more complexity and the HG, as usual was superior though we may not remember any of it and have to repeat the session.







By the way, great revue of the Tunel!

Posted by: Steyr850 Jan 30 2007, 01:45 PM

Glad you got your order! Butt it does suck you didn't get the Balance you thought you ordered. If you're jonesin', I could send you a little.

Posted by: grey boy Feb 4 2007, 12:41 PM

Note to self,
never order absinthe while "pulling a prol".

Posted by: Jaded Prol Feb 4 2007, 02:39 PM

Good advice!

Posted by: The Standard Deviant Feb 4 2007, 03:12 PM

As you were drunk, I suppose it was 'Duplais Balanche'.

Posted by: Jaded Prol Feb 4 2007, 03:40 PM

I don't recall.

Posted by: eric Feb 18 2007, 03:18 AM

Editor's note: Review of Clandestine Original Alcool du Vin has been moved to its own review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=3968&view=findpost&p=128494 and can be found in the Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/switzerland/la_clandestine_originale_alcoo/.

Posted by: Bruno Rygseck Feb 25 2007, 08:24 PM

Editor's note: The review for Montana 68 absenta has been moved to its own review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=4020&view=findpost&p=129490, and added to the Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/spain/montana_68_absenta/.

Posted by: mthuilli Mar 9 2007, 11:48 PM

Editor's note: Review for Veuve Verte, DuVallon 54 has been moved to its own review thread http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=4021&view=findpost&p=129492 and added to the Buyer's Guide http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/switzerland/la_veuve_verte_duvallon/.

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 10 2007, 06:07 PM

Just to let you all know, I have seen them and I will update everything.
I've been knocked out all week by a serious flu with a fever top of 41°C. Not very amusing.
I'm back up but definitely not back in shape. Being a man it's my obligation to act like I'm dying when I'm sick, so I've done just that and I still am.

viking_emoticon.gif

Posted by: Nymphadora Mar 10 2007, 06:11 PM

Hope you feel better. I'm sending mental chicken soup your way.

Posted by: hartsmar Mar 10 2007, 06:21 PM

Thanks, but poultry makes me sick. Really.

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Posted by: traineraz Mar 12 2007, 07:31 PM

Is it made with real mental chickens?

Posted by: The Standard Deviant Mar 12 2007, 09:10 PM

Clearly it is made with chicken brain.

Posted by: Absinthesizer Mar 12 2007, 09:22 PM

But is it distilled or macerated?!?

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