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Declan Royce
post Jul 26 2004, 11:27 PM
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Currently, I have no bottles on order and no money for them Not for a month or so. But I actually like the taste of absinthe, and so have looked for available pastis in my area liquor stores.

There are only three: Absente, Pernod, and Ricard.

Yes, I've looked at the reviews available here, and only the Pernod review makes specific reference to that brand not being at all absinthe-like. The Ricard review is generally positive, but too short to be useful, and the Absente review is lengthly, specifies an unpleasant licorice flavor, and an angry shop keeper.

Now, try to dull your generally refined tastes, calm your little buds, and tell me:

Of these three, do any posess a flavor similar enough to absinthe to let me get through the month so that I can order the real stuff later.

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post Jul 26 2004, 11:39 PM
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Save your money and buy some Jager, some arak, or some Ouzo.


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post Jul 27 2004, 01:03 AM
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No, they don't.

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post Jul 27 2004, 01:08 AM
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Go with the Pernod if you have to have something. Ricard is nice but further from what you want, IMHO. Note of caution: pastis is already sweetened.
None of them are absinthe, but if you want to pretend, Pernod is your best bet.

I'd just grit my teeth and be patient if I were you. That's $27 bucks or so that you'll already have saved toward a bottle of the good stuff.


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post Jul 27 2004, 01:18 AM
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Too bad they don't stock Henri Bardouin.


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post Jul 27 2004, 01:20 AM
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Save your money.


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post Jul 27 2004, 01:21 AM
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Better yet, take this bottle of LMV Pastis...it's the heaviest item on my shelf.


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post Jul 27 2004, 02:07 AM
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LMV pastis...

For that sandpaper refreshment.


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post Jul 27 2004, 02:30 AM
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Thanks everyone. I guess I'll just save my money. I think that's best. Thanks Hiram for the heads-up on presweetened pastis. I wouldn't have known. And thanks for the welcome Absomphe.

It's nice to be here. I think I'll go for the 2 bottle deal of Sebor instead. LARS!.gif

Just joking.

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post Jul 27 2004, 02:50 AM
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Ouzo or Raki are OK. I thought Pernod pastis was absolutely awful.
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post Jul 27 2004, 03:23 PM
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Has anyone tried Absente? It is marketed as "near-absinthe," so I would expect a similar experience.

I've tried Pernod twice. It is sweetened, so don't add any suguar. It tatsed too watered down to me with water added, but was enjoyable (though not very absinthe-like) poured straight over ice.

Another option is to get a small bottle of real absinthe from LdF. 20cl flasks of VdF, BdF and some of the Un Emiles are available. This will let you sample some excellent absinthe you may not have tried before without investing in a full-sized bottle.

Hiram, what about Chartause?


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post Jul 27 2004, 04:46 PM
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Absente isn't absinthe, but as a pastis I think I'd actually prefer it to the Pernod. The only thing that really votes against that is the outrageous price.

Chartreause... I've only had the 71% version, and I can't say I enjoyed it. Can't really compare that either to absinthe.



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post Jul 27 2004, 04:54 PM
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Absente isn't near absinthe, (or at least quality absinthe) and certainly not in flavor.

Perhaps near absinth, would be more on target.

Seriously, don't waste your money.

As to Chartreuse, it is a very complex and elegant drink, particularly the 12 year old V.E.P., which is more mellow and refined, than it's younger counterpart.

The flavor of Chartreuse, is only tangential to absinthe, however. The most prominent herbal flavor of Chartreuse, is angelica. Although this herb can be detected in BDF, for example, it is very subtle, and must really be tasted for.

Overall, Chartreuse is a more complex drink. However, it is a liqueur, and as such, it is quite sugary sweet. I find this to be a drawback to enjoying more than just the occasional cordial glass of it. I've often wondered how an unsweetened variety of Chartreuse V.E.P. would taste, but I don't expect the Carthusian monks to oblige me, anytime soon.


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post Jul 27 2004, 04:57 PM
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I had the 55% green Chartreuse, and it wasn't anything I was expecting. I was surpriised at how sweet it was, but I felt the sweetness didn't really mix well with the herbal qualities it has. I think I would've liked it more if it kept its natural bitterness (like a good vintage absinthe harhar.gif )


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