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Donnie Darko
post Mar 19 2012, 05:35 PM
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I'm glad you're experimenting with distilling, it's a rewarding endeavour.

However, pointing out that anethole is a chemical precursor to MDMA is a meaningless observation.
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post Mar 19 2012, 05:42 PM
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Anethol is also the main building block in the creation of Extasy.


MDMA is made using safrole, derived from sassafras. PMA is made using anethole. Possibly one can get to MDMA from anethole, but nobody would be trying it if safrole were readily available, and from what I've read, those who do try it are misguided and tend to produce disastrous results ....

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The result was flavourful, soaked with (though I have not had it tested yet)


How do you know if you haven't tested it?

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the very green mess left in the still was extremely bitter


It always is. It's one of the facts important to the concept of um, absinthe distillation.

But abs-cheers.gif to learning!




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post Mar 19 2012, 05:58 PM
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I really like the part about knowing it's loaded with thujone, but has not yet been tested for it.


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post Mar 19 2012, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(martin.zufanek @ Aug 19 2010, 03:53 PM) *

Thank you Kyle for your hospitality and I am looking forward to see you and your family in our distillery. I'll let you taste such incredible distilled booze that you will surely start thinking about buying alembic wink.gif



QUOTE(kyle @ Mar 19 2012, 12:54 PM) *

I distilled 3 batches of absinthe using plants I grow in my mountain valley. The result was flavourful, soaked with chop.gif (though I have not had it tested yet) and aromatic. There is no bitterness, the very green mess left in the still was extremely bitter.

Absinthe can be distilled, there I said it. I should mention that Francois Guy was the person who helped me see the light by providing me with some of his Grandfather's product from 1901. It expanded my mind and inspired me.

So This thread was started years ago, my ideas were not as developed, I hadn't read as many historical books as today, and I still have more to read. I hadn't had a still and it was not correct for me to criticize something I had not tried myself.


Well, well, I knew it! Glad to hear you have accepted different method of making absinthe, Kyle. wink.gif
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post Mar 19 2012, 09:11 PM
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Progress is make!

I never thought Kyle would come (stubbornly and still resisting) into the 18th century.


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post Mar 20 2012, 10:20 PM
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So Kyle finally discovered the Art of Distillation.
Congrats and welcome to the learning curve.
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post Mar 21 2012, 02:04 PM
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It is interesting to consider that nanotechnology may produce a paradigm shift as profound as distillation did, by allowing separation of substances that have the same boiling point.

One can conceive a process where the starting material is distilled to eliminate X and then nano-filtered to eliminate Y and Z.

I'm aware some of that is done today, (as in activated charcoal) but I can imagine selectivity beyond any parameter considered limiting today.


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post Mar 21 2012, 04:31 PM
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But will whoever uses the technology know what to do with it?

It's not as if technology can substitute for skill.


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post Mar 21 2012, 05:17 PM
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No reason to substitute for skill.

Before Master Distillers we had Master Brewers.

Eventually, we may have Master Filters. Or Filterers

I'll leave this to the experts among us, but seems to me that a process that selectively removes the Fusel oils (or adjusts them to a certain level) may be a boon to liqueurs' producers.


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I'm sure that advances in technology will have a place in commercial spirits production, including for high-end stuff.

As for absinthe, there may even be room to experiment with technological advances. After all, we wouldn't have commerically-made rotovap absinthe today without the work of gifted artisans.


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post Mar 22 2012, 01:58 AM
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What is this "commerically-made rotovap absinthe" you speak of?


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Sarcasmsinth.


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post Mar 23 2012, 01:24 AM
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While Arthur C. Clarke said "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic", I think there are plenty of technologies where further advancement is not the point, absinthe distillation being a prime example. For example, the whole point of absinthe is not so much to separate everything with a razor precision, but rather to harness the broad strokes of alembic distillation to create a cohesive whole that is something more than the mere sum of its parts. And while we do have the precision technology of rotary evaporation which, when combined with very skilled hands, can produce an awesome product, that product is not superior to that produced by some old smelly mustachioed Frenchies over a century and a half ago using a big hunk of copper and some steam.
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^That's sorta what I meant only said much betterer.


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post Mar 30 2012, 09:02 PM
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Great news, Kyle, I wish you success! Hopefully we will see a distilled product on par with La Grenouille & St. Antoine?



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