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> Modern Filteration vs Distillation, Which is better?
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post Apr 17 2005, 07:11 PM
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The odd thing is that the bairnsfather site seems to claim they use traditional methods with modern equipment. Yet in this post Kyle seems to be suggesting that that will give you an inferior product.


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post Apr 17 2005, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (justabob @ Apr 17 2005, 03:54 PM)
I just picked up a pack of these "modern filters", I am trying one as we speak in my mister coffee.

That distilled coffee they used to make in the old days really sucked.


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post Apr 17 2005, 07:37 PM
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post Apr 17 2005, 07:48 PM
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post Apr 17 2005, 08:05 PM
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Remember his old one?

It WAS freaky.


It looked like it was changing right before your eyes!


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post Apr 17 2005, 08:14 PM
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It's a dog. His name is Dominic.


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post Apr 17 2005, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE (kyle @ Apr 17 2005, 09:33 AM)
The result is that absinth made by modern filters is superior to absinth made by distillation which is actually an inferior method of filtration due to the destructive effects of heat and boiling on the compounds released by the herbs into the alcohol in the production process.

At least the Bairnsfather won't taste burnt™.


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post Apr 17 2005, 08:53 PM
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post Apr 17 2005, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (kyle @ Apr 17 2005, 03:33 PM)
Just because distillation was used in the past as a means of filtration, doesn't mean it is the best in today's world.  At the time absinth was being distilled, it was also normal for a Doctor to have order a preson bled by leeches to cure an ailment.

Today medicinal leeches are used as tools in tissue grafts and reattachment surgery. Not only do they secrete anitcoagulants to prevent blood clots and relieve pressure due to pooling blood. It appears that leech saliva has other therapeutic properties. Leech saliva helps reestablish blood flow to reattached body parts by means of a vasodilator, provides a numbing anesthetic, and lessens the risk of infection due to an antibiotic.[1]

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post Apr 17 2005, 11:52 PM
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This lovely glass of filtered bourbon I am enjoying says he might be right. And to think all this time all I needed was a bottle of grain and a can of creamed corn. w00t2.gif


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post Apr 17 2005, 11:59 PM
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...and a new, improved filter.


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post Apr 18 2005, 12:23 AM
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Well Kyle, why don't you sent out some samples to some of the more learned members of the forum as other manufactures have done.

It would then be scored using our standard score sheet method.

If you are confident you have a quality product you will then be vindicated.


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post Apr 18 2005, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE (Breson @ Apr 17 2005, 03:52 PM)
This lovely glass of filtered bourbon I am enjoying says he might be right.

Good point. If "filtering" is so superior to distilling, you'd think that liquor manufacturers around the world would have clued in by now. But what do they know? They're still using that old, outmoded distillation filtering.


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post Apr 18 2005, 01:22 AM
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To play devil's advocate for a minute, there is a distinguishing factor between producing absinthe and bourbon or most other liquors.

You don't need to create the alcohol when you make absinthe. It's already there at the start. You just use it to extract the desirable herbal contents. Theoretically, one could make absinthe without distillation if there was another way to extract those components and add them to 65% neutral alcohol. I suppose that would be an approximate and simplified description of an oil mix or essence based absinthe.

Since bourbon, brandy, gin etc. production starts with no alcohol, you can't really skip the fermentation and distillation processes. I'd love to see a filtration system that could turn potatoes into vodka.


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post Apr 18 2005, 01:46 AM
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You could buy gert strand but it still doesn't qualigy as absinthe and oils are too dangerous to mess with.

I like the old ways.


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