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post Dec 14 2007, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(dr_ordinaire @ Dec 14 2007, 10:35 PM) *

…Ted(…) actually took his old recipes (widely available) to someone in France WHO KNEW HOW TO MAKE ABSINTHE.
Oh Come All Ye Wankers… refute that.


it's refuted, and a fact: no one (alive) had ever made absinthe, or had any clear idea how, at Combier, when ted arranged to make jade there…


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post Dec 14 2007, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(eric @ Dec 14 2007, 01:42 PM) *

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refute that.


I obtained a full liter of very nice Absinthe from Ted in November 2000 in exchange for a bottle from my collection.


Oh yes. I got a sample of Ted's absinthe myself. (Yep, not everybody follows the party line here in the Forum. The Dr. has some underground, albeit shy, supporters.)

I drank it in two occasions. The first time it was excellent. The second time, about 2 months afterwards, it was undrinkable. (And I´m not the only one to notice that effect.)

I was talking about COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE absinthe, not about the dabblings of an amateur.

It would be stupid and low to heap scorn on the dabblings of an amateur, right?


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post Dec 14 2007, 11:34 PM
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Indeed, it would.


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post Dec 14 2007, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(pierreverte @ Dec 14 2007, 03:05 PM) *

QUOTE(dr_ordinaire @ Dec 14 2007, 10:35 PM) *

…Ted(…) actually took his old recipes (widely available) to someone in France WHO KNEW HOW TO MAKE ABSINTHE.
Oh Come All Ye Wankers… refute that.


it's refuted, and a fact: no one (alive) had ever made absinthe, or had any clear idea how, at Combier, when ted arranged to make jade there…



You bring up a good point, Pierreverte, he who wrote a book that now he despises.

Maybe at Combier nobody CARED about making absinthe. Nobody thought about the commercial implications of making absinthe. But MAKING ABSINTHE is not a fucking big deal.

For the newbies: ABSINTHE WAS INVENTED BY A COUNTYRY DOCTOR OUT OF HIS KITCHEN.

All the rest about absinthe is bullshit.


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post Dec 15 2007, 12:43 AM
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So why exactly is it you've not produced a quality absinthe? After all, it's oh-so-simple.


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post Dec 15 2007, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(G&C @ Dec 14 2007, 03:34 PM) *

Indeed, it would.


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post Dec 15 2007, 10:42 AM
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post Dec 15 2007, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(dr_ordinaire @ Dec 15 2007, 12:37 AM) *

QUOTE(pierreverte @ Dec 14 2007, 03:05 PM) *

QUOTE(dr_ordinaire @ Dec 14 2007, 10:35 PM) *

…Ted(…) actually took his old recipes (widely available) to someone in France WHO KNEW HOW TO MAKE ABSINTHE.


it's refuted, and a fact: no one (alive) had ever made absinthe, or had any clear idea how, at Combier, when ted arranged to make jade there…


Maybe at Combier nobody CARED about making absinthe. Nobody thought about the commercial implications of making absinthe. But MAKING ABSINTHE is not a fucking big deal.



uh, what happened to your statement of 'fact' that ted "took his old recipes (widely available) to someone in France WHO KNEW HOW TO MAKE ABSINTHE." no one at Combier 'knew' how to make absinthe, or had any real clue where to start, other than having macerated into existence a very respectable commercial pastis…
the alambics at Comber were/are used for very little variety other than triple sec, distilled orange-skin based blending ingredients and kummel…and now jade, perique and lucid…


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post Jan 1 2008, 09:41 PM
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no one at Combier 'knew' how to make absinthe, or had any real clue where to start, other than having macerated into existence a very respectable commercial pastis…
the alambics at Comber were/are used for very little variety other than triple sec, distilled orange-skin based blending ingredients and kummel…and now jade, perique and lucid…
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Ahhhhh, and there is SUCH a HUGE difference between making pastis and absinthe, considering that everybody and his brother made absinthe by the 1900's and pastis is what people did when the stupid French government banned absinthe.

Do you actually think that these guys needed Ted to know how to make absinthe? Please…


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QUOTE(dr_ordinaire @ Jan 1 2008, 10:41 PM) *

Ahhhhh, and there is SUCH a HUGE difference between making pastis and absinthe, considering that everybody and his brother made absinthe by the 1900's and pastis is what people did when the stupid French government banned absinthe.

Do you actually think that these guys needed Ted to know how to make absinthe? Please…



uh, yes there actually are several big differences between making pastis and absinthe, the first being that almost all pastis are not distilled.

i organized and was there from the start and they did NOT know how to make absinthe until ted arrived. the still master there pretty much just follows instructions from the boss, and no one ever showed him how to make absinthe before. actually, he still never learned how to make jade absinthe (which is only made when ted is there), and absinthe in general until the blanchette was created for combier by ted.


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QUOTE(eric @ Dec 7 2007, 10:25 AM) *

QUOTE(dr_ordinaire @ Dec 7 2007, 03:38 AM) *
I have NO chemistry background.





Then what qualifies you to accuse a professional chemist such as Ted of lying about the chemistry of Absinthe?


Dealing with Chemistry and making money off of such makes one a "professional chemist." I know a lot of those, being doctors, dentists, mechanics, painters, street de-icers, and even maids.

As a side-note, Ted was an environmental (ag-engineering degree???) chemist, measuring pollution levels in groundwater around New Orleans if memory serves me right. Does have a strong basis is organic chemistry, but in the land of research chemistry if he is not working for a university, I would not call him such. I would call him a commercial chemist.

That being said, I do agree with Porkio that times and the methods of measurement change, even for those that are commercial chemists, such as Ted. With the legalization of absinthe/Lucid in the US, measurement of chop.gif was determined by a standard technique of measurement and a standard expectant of results. Not being a chemist or engineer I am not one to discuss whether this measurement is a good expectation or not, however I am qualified enough to state that the FDA does not regulate nutriceuticals other than them proving that what they say is in there is in there. Obviously with alcohol there is another aspect, the ATF amongst others, thrown in there.





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