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| absinthist |
 Mar 10 2010, 03:17 PM
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The much adored J.A.Baczewski crystal carafe, ca. 1856-1894. In such shaped bottles, only 5 brands were sold: Anisette verte, Cherry, Cumin sec sec, Orange sec sec and Curacao sec sec. The group of spirits was named "Marque de la Renaissance", in Baczewski catalogue the bottle had the number 17 :
 Juliusz Mikolasch was the founder of the first in Galicja Towarzystwo Rafinerii Spirytusu (Spirits Refinery Association). What was inside the bottle is unknown to me yet, it dates from 1902-1905. Baczewski was using that shape of bottles, too, in his catalogue it was under number 10:  More to come… -------------------- Ils buvaient de l'absinthe,
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| absinthist |
Mar 12 2010, 10:48 AM
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Just some papers, but interesting (to those that should be interested therein).
1) Baczewski portfolio of 1930. Excerpt about the xit they owned and how much they could cook, etc.  2) Potocki in Łańcut was the worldwide finest producer of rosoglios-no doubt about it. Little is known yet about that particular rosoglio I have underlined-any ideas? My theory would be buying someone else's absinthe and transforming it into rosoglio since none of Potocki's portfolios (the one here is from 1897) list absinthe or "absynth" as such. I have underlined the oldest anise spirit, so Kontuszówka and obviously, Piołunówka I had no idea Potocki had been making.  -------------------- Ils buvaient de l'absinthe,
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| Absomphe |
Mar 12 2010, 01:14 PM
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Too many indecipherable werdz.™
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| Shabba53 |
Mar 12 2010, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(absinthist @ Mar 12 2010, 05:48 AM)  My theory would be buying someone else's absinthe and transforming it into rosoglio I highly doubt they went that far. My understanding of rosoglios is that they are a wine based spirit infused with herbs. I would guess that would mean that particular type of rosoglio was a wormwood macerate. -------------------- Everything is better with some pig.
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| absinthist |
Mar 12 2010, 01:42 PM
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Not always with herbs. Various fruit (e.g. rowan, sloe, raspberry) were used as well. The current Łańcut portfolio is very poor, but gives a hint: http://www.polmoslancut.com.pl/eng/rosoglios.htm
If it was only wormwood based, then the name should be "piołunowy", not "absyntowy"-meaning absinthe is the base for rosoglio. Maybe it was more in the vein of creme d'absinthe or ratafia d'absinthe? In a sense rosoglio is just a high proof likker. Back in a day, they were made just like likkers but using natural oils, alcoholates, sweetened with honey and/or with sweet wine added, left at 32% at least*. The very first Italian rosoglio was just poorly rectified wine spirit flavoured with rose petal oil and sweetened further to mask the flaws. * from Baczewski:  Józef Bełza in 1840 in his opus "O wypalaniu wódek" defines rosoglio (named then, rossolis) as aromatic spirit that is stronger and sweeter than ordinary or dubbel likkers. -------------------- Ils buvaient de l'absinthe,
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| absinthist |
Jul 7 2010, 10:39 AM
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Since no one was eager to help I have found it myself:
 Roseau aromatique seems to be calamus… -------------------- Ils buvaient de l'absinthe,
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| absinthist |
Aug 20 2010, 07:25 PM
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"Zielnik. Herbarzem z jezyka łacińskiego zowią" – The Polish Herbarium authored by Polish botanist Szymon Syreniusz Syreński. It was printed in Krakow in 1613. The Herbarium is composed of 1,538 pages of Polish, Latin and German text and illustrations. It contains an index of illnesses and cures in Polish and three separate indices of plants in Latin, Polish and German.
In that precious opus, we find the recipe for distilled, unsugared piołunówka, which is the second oldest recipe for the tipple:  and for other single herb-liquors, including "wódka z hanyżu", so the predecessor of any anise-flavoured spirit of the heyday:  -------------------- Ils buvaient de l'absinthe,
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