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> Nouvelle Orléans in the U.S., preorder at DUNY
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post Feb 18 2009, 05:25 PM
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DUNY announced on Facebook they have NO for presale. I have been waiting for this, wondering what the price would be. DUNY sale price = $110.99, "list price" = $126.99. I remember when it was announced that NO would be available in the US, a price of $110 was mentioned. Let's see, I can go to LDF and pay £55 which is US $70 at the current exchange rate. Looks like I will still order it from LDF. (Actually I will have to wait because it is out of stock, probably because it is all being sent to the US market right now.)
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post Feb 18 2009, 06:18 PM
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It seems that US NO is different than the LDF NO (the old one), otherwise how would it meet FDA standards?


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post Feb 18 2009, 06:34 PM
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No, I don't think so. I'm sure Ted said there were no changes made. Just because he chose to label it "amer" in France does not mean it necessarily must have 10-35 mg/l, just that it "may". I haven't spoken with Ted about this so I don't know, but just suppose one early test of an early batch turned out a bit high for thujone. Why not just label it as an amer? Now that it is produced using a solera process I would imagine the test results are very consistent, and apparently low enough to pass the U.S. threshold.
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post Feb 18 2009, 06:51 PM
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I remember it being at 21.0 mg/l back in a day-not relatively high, but fitting the line of "Amer" and not meeting the U.S. standards as well.


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post Feb 18 2009, 07:04 PM
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Where did that number come from? I don't think Jade advertizes thujone levels.
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post Feb 18 2009, 07:21 PM
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The numbers were given by LCB of Ontario (retrieved 31st of May 2007, so might have changed).


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post Feb 18 2009, 10:45 PM
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Yeah exactly $110 here in US vs where we always get it from for $10 more and LESS if you order more than one bottle. I just pointed this out yesterday or so about even if they do come to the U.S. it won't mean a damn thing at prices like that, we might as well order from LDF and for sure any changes made for U.S. market become moot.


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post Feb 18 2009, 11:43 PM
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Right. I made a mistake when I quoted $70. It's actually $78 plus shipping. Total would be $121 if you only ordered one bottle, but if you ordered 3 for example it would be $93 each including shipping, so it would actually be $18 cheaper per bottle than DUNY. Normally I would go for one bottle of Jade and a couple of cheaper bottles.
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post Feb 19 2009, 02:22 AM
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I like Jade NO but I can't say that it's worth almost double the Vieux Pontarlier. My last order from DUNY was the VP along with a bottle of Clandestine for 10% off. With free shipping, the order came to about $140. Not a bad deal.


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post Feb 19 2009, 04:10 AM
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Keep in mind when the U.S. dollar eventually weakens some of these short-term price discrepancies will re-adjust themselves. The £ is stupid cheap right now so anything from LDF is going to be a good deal for U.S. residents.


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post Feb 19 2009, 04:41 PM
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$111?

I'll skip it, thanks.

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post Feb 19 2009, 04:58 PM
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Even when the exchange rates were less favorable years ago it was still cheaper than that if you got a few bottles from LDF. I like how the good US legal absinthes are now hovering more around the $70 range. Anything in the $90 range is pushing it for me. Sure, Jade is overall a better absinthe than Vieux Pontarlier, but $45 better?

I'm fine with absinthe being in the price range of the top affordable single-malts. I realize a ton of factors are involved with pricing, and I understand the maker often does not have total control over that, especially when it comes to alcohol taxes, distributor fees, import duties, unforeseen complications, etc. But there's something about crossing the $100 mark that makes one think twice before purchasing. I'm sure some people will still pay that, Jade products are certainly in the upper eschalon of absinthes, but I'm pretty content with what I can get for less, especially with DP and Pacifique just around the corner.

DP and I had an interesting conversation yesterday about what it means to be an "authentic" absinthe. She pointed out that Ted's definition of "authentic absinthe" is likely different from other people's, and I agree. That definition requires his absinthe to operate within a certain set of confines in terms of where everything is sourced and how it is made. There is certainly credibility to that approach, as terroir has a tremendous impact on herb sourcing, and of course the particular alcohol base and other things employed (of which I am ignorant) may well require the price to be that high, and IMO has led to an acceptable recreation of vintage style absinthe. When it comes down to pure quality, however, I think the improvements made across the absinthe market over the last few years have resulted in some great affordable alternative options for consumers, who have a looser definition of what an "authentic" absinthe can be.
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post Feb 19 2009, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(Rimbaud @ Feb 19 2009, 08:41 AM) *
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post Feb 19 2009, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(Rimbaud @ Feb 19 2009, 08:41 AM) *
Ted needs to rethink a few things.

I'm pretty sure Ted doesn't set the prices.
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post Feb 19 2009, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Rimbaud @ Feb 19 2009, 08:41 AM) *

Ted needs to rethink a few things.

Since when profiteers™ think? It is all about money, haven't you forgotten, Rimmy?

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She pointed out that Ted's definition of "authentic absinthe" is likely different from other people's, and I agree.

Finally DD has seen the light!

I am not sure if the sample of Walton Waters I have been given was that good especially for me, but it has beaten severely in the arse most of the CO's and the Jades utterly-just the truth, it was insanely good and had all the ideas I am looking for in extrait d'absinthe and DP has understood these ideas almost perfectly (my sample was very fresh, need the aging to check it thoroughly then). Hopefully, when it is on the shelves, I will be able to post my review.


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