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> Holy Hell, Free worldwide shiping at LdF!!
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post Dec 4 2009, 11:34 AM
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post Dec 4 2009, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(absinthist @ Dec 4 2009, 06:25 AM) *

Nevertheless, two MORE Jades have been approved for the US and will be available there soon:

http://absinthe-review.net/forums/showthre…=218&page=1


There used to be a time when if one wanted to learn the latest about absinthe, they looked here first. Scooped by absinthe-review.net? Boy, that's something to be proud of.

I can understand the Jades being slightly more expensive than the EU version, because it will have 50 more ml of absinthe, but I sincerely hope the $110 tag is reduced.
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post Dec 6 2009, 04:23 AM
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QUOTE(Donnie Darko @ Dec 4 2009, 04:29 AM) *

There used to be a time when if one wanted to learn the latest about absinthe, they looked here first. Scooped by absinthe-review.net? Boy, that's something to be proud of.

Holy Hell indeed.

I actually heard this rumor on facebook first, then looked here, then followed the link to TARN. I don't know what part of this I am most disturbed about.
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post Dec 6 2009, 04:39 AM
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TARN is up and coming, I think. No worries though, this place will always be the real resource.


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post Dec 6 2009, 04:04 PM
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post Dec 7 2009, 03:59 PM
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post Dec 7 2009, 04:39 PM
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or friends!
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post Dec 7 2009, 04:42 PM
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post Dec 7 2009, 04:49 PM
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Or a big still.


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post Dec 10 2009, 10:13 PM
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Or free absinthe fests.
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post Dec 10 2009, 11:35 PM
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post Dec 12 2009, 02:05 PM
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Just came this morning

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LDF Newsletter 2 December 2009

Jade absinthes

There has been a lot of speculation as to why a disclaimer has appeared on our Jade range of products stating that they cannot be shipped to US residents. LDF was forced to place this disclaimer on its website and failure to comply would have resulted in LDF having its entire supply of Jade blocked. As LDF has always been the exclusive worldwide distributor for Jade absinthes, we consider this action highly objectionable. Our policy has always been to put our customers first, and to supply Jade to customers wherever we are able to ship. This policy has not changed. We apologize for any delays or inconvenience that this temporary circumstance may have caused you and look forward to continuing to provide you with some of the top quality products available worldwide.


I'm confused. Are they saying they will ship me Jade in the US, or they won't? IPB Image


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post Dec 12 2009, 03:33 PM
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Well, if it says they cannot ship Jade to the US, then that means they cannot ship Jade to the US.

I guess the real question is whether LDF had a legal agreement with Combier/Ted to be the exclusive worldwide distributor of Jade, and whether that legal agreement would be valid in US courts.

I think LDF and Viridian should sue each other. It's the American way. And it will be awesome for the consumers. Because let's not forget it's all about the money. The absinthe is secondary. In case nobody ever noticed, the business world is full of people who will try to screw other people for a buck and then justify it because it's "legal". Socialism is objectionable, until you're a business who wants to use the law to prevent true capitalist competition. I always thought this would end up being a problem, given that I don't think it's "legal" for LDF to ship alcohol to US consumers without US taxes being levied on it. When absinthe wasn't legal in the US, nobody cared because there was no US business money at stake. But now that it's legal, one can understand why US distributors, who have to pay US taxes on the alcohol they sell, would balk at the idea of the exact same product they are selling coming into the US untaxed from another distributor.

What's weird though is I can buy Vieux Pontarlier from LDF or from a store down the street and nobody says boo. It's $60 from Astor or $74 from LDF, so it appears competition worked out in favor for the US distributor. Clearly there is more than one business model one can follow, and in the example of Vieux Pontarlier, it works out great for the consumer because the US option is the cheapest one. I like the business model that says "let the market decide" as opposed to the one that says "let's make up a contract that makes it so people can only get a certain absinthe from one person: me". One is called playing the game, the other is called trying to rig the game.
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post Dec 12 2009, 04:42 PM
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I don't believe, in this particular case, that Viridian is the problem, dispite appearances. Don't ask me why, it just seems like that. As for the LdF newsletter, it pointedly does not state that they are currently shipping Jades to the US, so I guess the situation is not resolved. Except that Oxy's newletter says that they are currently shipping Jades. To where, it does not say.

I think we should all just take a deep breath, and give this some time to resolve itself before we make it words, your theories (which I agree with) notwithstanding, DD.


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