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> Pre-Ban Pernod Fils?, Can anyone identify?
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post Mar 12 2012, 10:35 PM
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I have seen this faked Pernod Fils several times, always from US sources. I believe this is ersatz absinthe made in Cuba in the 1930's.


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post Mar 12 2012, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Mar 12 2012, 03:35 PM) *

I have seen this faked Pernod Fils several times, always from US sources. I believe this is ersatz absinthe made in Cuba in the 1930's.


i suppose that would make it a collectible in its own right, but certainly not as valuable as the genuine article.


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post Mar 12 2012, 11:55 PM
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Maybe this will help, and thanks again for any info or advice. He payed $150.00 for it so it's not a huge deal.


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post Mar 13 2012, 12:00 AM
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One more.. I guess we could sell it as a fake but we just want to be sure first, we're not out to scam anyone.


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post Mar 13 2012, 01:07 AM
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There is or was an olive oil named "Lucero". This isn't my area of expertise, but I'd say that logo kills any chance of the bottle being associated with absinthe in general and Pernod in particular.


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post Mar 13 2012, 03:32 AM
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I googled lucero than I find out :


Lucero … since 1906


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post Mar 13 2012, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Mar 12 2012, 11:35 PM) *

I have seen this faked Pernod Fils several times, always from US sources. I believe this is ersatz absinthe made in Cuba in the 1930's.

Oh no, not *that* one? You mean the one the King of Spirits recipe is probably based on?

Shouldn't be hard to determine. You won't even have to taste it.


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post Mar 14 2012, 12:00 AM
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Like this one?
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post Mar 14 2012, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Mar 12 2012, 02:35 PM) *
I believe this is ersatz absinthe made in Cuba in the 1930's.

Hard to believe that anyone would sell that crap.

Odd that the advertising for the samples described it as "a good quality, naturally coloured absinthe, and likely dates from the mid 1930's" rather than "ersatz absinthe."


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post Mar 14 2012, 09:55 PM
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Didn't see that old thread until just now.

I'm pretty sure that same set of samples is in my fore-mentioned cabinet.

I remember being unimpressed with the Bazinet. All this time, I thought the Cuban sample was rum. I'm not sure I ever even tasted it.


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post Mar 15 2012, 12:18 AM
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Thanks to everyone for helping us discover a bit more about this bottle. Thus far, we know the bottle was post-50's (due to the vertical lines), is a knock-off of real Pernod, and should be "smashed." :) Rather than smashing it, I think we will tell my father-in-law to put it on his mantle place for an interesting conversation piece. We appreciate your expertise!
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post Mar 15 2012, 03:41 PM
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If I recall correctly that Bazinet was woody and not very good.

Cupcakes,

Before you retire the the bottle to the mantle, why not try some modern absinthe? At least that way you'll know that the bottle is imitating and makes for a better story. Besides, you may like it.


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