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post Sep 13 2012, 03:55 PM
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Don't be a fool, Pro. This is Darwin at play, culling bottom feeders. You have nothing to fear. Except your guide.

I don't think this was HGers at all. I think it's black market and untaxed, yes. But I'd bet this was profit driven scumbags adulterating booze to make a buck, not homebrew that was poorly rectified. Someone was told that the barrel fell off the back of a different truck than it actually did.


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post Sep 13 2012, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(Tibro @ Sep 13 2012, 07:55 AM) *
Don't be a fool, Pro.

It's like, way many decades too late for that.


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post Sep 13 2012, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(Greytail @ Sep 13 2012, 06:03 AM) *

Probably not intending to kill, but I can see where inexperienced or mis-informed HG'ers might not drain off enough of the poisonious alchohol at the beginning.


There are no "poisonous alcohols at the beginning". Fermentation will not produce methanol, which was traditionally obtained from the destructive distillation of wood.

You may be thinking of the "heads", the more volatile alcohols that appear at the beginning of distillation. They taste harsh, and probably will contribute to a hangover, but they are not poisonous.


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post Sep 13 2012, 05:32 PM
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This is organized crime at work, not just local backwoods 'shiners.

Someone buys batches of shine, then cuts it with industrial alcohols. Then likely sells it to someone else who cuts it again. Just like the white powder drug trade. Not even a crook wants a dead customer, but when you have a network of greed, this shits going to happen.

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post Sep 13 2012, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(dr_ordinaire @ Sep 13 2012, 08:12 AM) *
There are no "poisonous alcohols at the beginning".



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post Sep 13 2012, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(Provenance @ Sep 13 2012, 06:08 PM) *

It's like, way man, decadent late for two hats.


The important thing is, which one do want to be buried in?


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post Sep 13 2012, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(Greytail @ Sep 13 2012, 06:03 AM) *

Probably not intending to kill, but I can see where inexperienced or mis-informed HG'ers might not drain off enough of the poisonious alchohol at the beginning.


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post Sep 13 2012, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(dr_ordinaire @ Sep 13 2012, 04:12 PM) *
QUOTE(Greytail @ Sep 13 2012, 06:03 AM) *

Probably not intending to kill, but I can see where inexperienced or mis-informed HG'ers might not drain off enough of the poisonious alchohol at the beginning.


There are no "poisonous alcohols at the beginning". Fermentation will not produce methanol, which was traditionally obtained from the destructive distillation of wood.

You may be thinking of the "heads", the more volatile alcohols that appear at the beginning of distillation. They taste harsh, and probably will contribute to a hangover, but they are not poisonous.


That's not completely true. Apparently methanol can be produced by fermentation of fruits high in pectin.
http://homedistiller.org/intro/methanol/methanol

However, there is a pervasive myth about methanol in moonshine, which is just that. Poisonous liquor is generally a matter of adulteration, not lack of skill on the part of the distiller.



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post Sep 13 2012, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(Tibro @ Sep 13 2012, 09:54 AM) *
The important thing is, which one do want to be buried in?

Mebbie this one


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post Sep 13 2012, 07:12 PM
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So, you plan to be buried face down, with this to adorn your overachieving academic ass? Wise guy.


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post Sep 13 2012, 07:19 PM
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OK, touche. Combining Arty's information about methanol with Provenance's subtle reminder of Paracelsus' dictum, I should have stated:

Fermentation may produce methanol, but in such small dosages that it would not act as a poison for the average human being.


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post Sep 13 2012, 07:31 PM
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The basic point, that the lethal problem was adulteration not distilling incompetence, remains as unchanged as the song.


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post Sep 13 2012, 07:35 PM
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Nor let us forget that the cure for methanol poisoning is ethanol. Proving once again that a good, stiff shot of alcohol has restorative powers.


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post Sep 14 2012, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(Provenance @ Sep 13 2012, 03:39 AM) *

Je pensais que vous alliez faire tomber les Larmes de la Lune.


Close. Here's one of the labels that the offending substance was being sold under.

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post Sep 14 2012, 05:52 PM
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