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Artemis
post Aug 12 2014, 09:55 PM
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Le Tribunal administratif fédéral a accepté les recours de plusieurs distilleries dont Morand en Valais. L'absinthe ne pourra pas être protégée par une IGP.

The federal administrative court has accepted the appeal of several distilleries with Morand in Valais. Absinthe will not be able to be protected by an IGP.

Le Tribunal Administratif Fédéral (TAF) a admis les recours de plusieurs distilleries dont la société Morand à Martigny: les dénominations "Absinthe", "Fée verte" et "la Bleue" ne pourront pas faire l'objet d'une indication géographique protégée comme demandé par l'Association interprofessionnelle de l'Absinthe.

The Federal Administrative Court (TAF) accepted the appeals of several distilleries with the Morand society in Martigny: the names "Absinthe", "Green Fairy" and "la Bleue" will not be able to be the object of a geographical protection designation as requested by the Interprofessional Association of Absinthe.

Selon les documents que nous nous sommes procurés, le TAF relève que "ces dénominations sont des noms génériques (...) et qu'elles ne peuvent par conséquent pas être enregistrées comme IGP, les recours doivent être admis, dans la mesure où ils sont recevables. Il convient donc (...) d'admettre les oppositions déposées par les recourantes et d'annuler la décision attaquée."

According to the documents we obtained, the TAF notes that "these names are generic names (...) and as a result they cannot be registered as IGP, the appeals must be accepted, to the extent they are receivable. It is suitable therefore (...) to accept objections deposited by appellants and to cancel the attached decision."

http://www.museeabsinthe.com/forums/index....ost&p=69286


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post Aug 12 2014, 10:24 PM
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post Aug 13 2014, 06:43 PM
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If I understand correctly, it's not even Switzerland trying to shut out the French (and everybody else), but people in a limited area of Switzerland trying to shut out everybody else, including other Swiss!
It seems the IGPers can themselves appeal to a higher court, but it will cost them, and they have to pay the costs for the appeal they just lost as well, so they'll have to sell a lot of the world's only true absinthe to keep it up. It's about 20,000 Swiss francs at this point, according to Marc.



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post Aug 13 2014, 07:53 PM
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post Aug 13 2014, 09:24 PM
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What's an IGP?


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post Aug 13 2014, 09:34 PM
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It never meant much in the U.S. for various reasons, but it pissed a lot of people off. It's like a small part of Ireland trying to trademark "whisky" for their exclusive use.
As for the poster, that product winning awards in France leads me to assume that either the French were not always as choosey about the word champagne as they are today, or the product was entered as something else, or the product category for the competition was somewhat broadly defined.


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post Aug 14 2014, 03:06 PM
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Speaking of which, has Pernod-Ricard weighed in on the scales of this injustice?


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post Aug 14 2014, 09:24 PM
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I don't know. There's a long running thread about it at the French place, but I haven't kept up with it. I seem to remember reading that it wasn't a real threat to French producers (much less American), for reasons regarding the way these laws work in Europe that I didn't understand. I always figured it was never a threat to anybody because it couldn't possibly stand, but courts have surprised me before.


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Of more interest to me is stuff like this. Someone visited the cafe in which the famous photo of Verlaine with an absinthe was taken:
http://www.museeabsinthe.com/forums/index....amp;#entry69372
Apparently they sell absinthe again. But only one - Pernod.


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Pernod makes absinthe?


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Opinions vary.
What they're making now; I guess it's absinthe (finally) but it's not good.
The consensus seems to be that they're (finally) on the right path but have a long way to go.


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What's your opinion (No need to refer to the VdT, IGP or lack of legal definitions)?

Absinthe is one thing. Maybe it's good, usually it's not. Not good enough to spend money on, anyways. Maybe I should differentiate between the blatant rent-seekers and the honest entrepreneurs, but…

Hogsmack. I'll take my chances.


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post Aug 14 2014, 10:30 PM
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You're asking my opinion of their absinthe?
What they made previously (in the modern era) was laughable, from what I read about it - it wasn't absinthe, it was glorified pastis or some half-ass oil mix, etc. I'm not sure I even tasted it, but I didn't have to. Seems it went through several iterations, but got marginally (if at all) better. Nobody who knew anything about absinthe took it seriously.
Marc tried the latest version and wrote a positive review. I asked for a sample and he provided it, and I thought it was awful. I think I wrote it up here - it was like sucking on a penny - almost as though it had been colored with grand wormwood.
Our opinions of it couldn't have more opposing, so I chalked it off to the fact that I was taking medicine that weekend that could have interfered with my taste buds. I mean, Marc knows shitty absinthe when he tastes it.
But since, I've read several reviews at the French forum that confirmed my opinion, especially the long-lasting (hours) unpleasant aftertaste.
Now it comes out that there are two versions of the latest iteration, a good one and a mauvaise one, with at least one shop having returned their stock to Pernod, having been embarrassed by selling the latter.
So I don't know. There are so many variables, it's hard to make any definitive judgement.


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