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Artemis
post Jan 15 2015, 08:17 PM
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There is a prohibition on Shabbos against anything that resembles sifting, and this process may constitute sifting.

That's not the intent of the holey spoon. The intent is to slow the flow of water and to sparge it across a greater surface area of the liquor, so that the "louche" will develop slowly. And the sugar that they used back in the day was in the form of a brick that had to be cut up with shears. The resulting chunks don't dissolve well when dropped into liquid; they just sit there. So the lump is placed upon the spoon, where the impact of the stream of water breaks it up. It's more like erosion than sifting.


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post Jan 15 2015, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(Marc @ Jan 14 2015, 04:59 PM) *

Welcome FarbrengenVerte!

I thought Oxy would answer your other post in more details but he didn't. I will try to help but I'm not sure I'm the right person.

My understanding is that even if an absinthe contains no ingredients that aren't kosher, it still cannot be certified as kosher if the distillery uses wine alcohol freely, even if not actually in the absinthe itself, so I'm surprised about the Lucid.
As for Emile Pernot, none of their absinthes are certified kosher, for the reason I mentioned above.


Thanks Marc! I am curious how Lucid does it as well… Just so I know. Can you tell me which Emilie Pernot Absinthes use grain or beets and which use Wine?

Are there any other disiliries that you could get more product speciic with as well?



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post Jan 15 2015, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(Artemis @ Jan 15 2015, 08:17 PM) *

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There is a prohibition on Shabbos against anything that resembles sifting, and this process may constitute sifting.

That's not the intent of the holey spoon. The intent is to slow the flow of water and to sparge it across a greater surface area of the liquor, so that the "louche" will develop slowly. And the sugar that they used back in the day was in the form of a brick that had to be cut up with shears. The resulting chunks don't dissolve well when dropped into liquid; they just sit there. So the lump is placed upon the spoon, where the impact of the stream of water breaks it up. It's more like erosion than sifting.


Interesting. Let me run this by a Rav. In any event. I would just mix the sugar in the water before hand so its not like you could notenjoy an Absinthe :-)


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post Jan 15 2015, 09:04 PM
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Just to be clear:
Someone might call bullshit and say, of course the purpose of the spoon is to support a lump of sugar.
What I'm saying is that the holes in the spoon don't serve the same purpose as the holes in a sifter (to change big dry particles into smaller dry particles).
Rather, they are intended to gently and somewhat evenly distribute sugared water.
To the extent that some solid particles of sugar will get through, and those are smaller than the original, I suppose it could be called sifting.


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post Jan 16 2015, 11:01 AM
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hello … interesting question …
i think when you find the perfect absinthe it will be a special moment …
it will be difficult no doubt … but well worth the journey …
we are forged by fires to create who we are …
as you search you will evolve and when you strike 'green' …
you will be lifted higher because of your efforts …
good luck on your quest … an amazing experience awaits !
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post Jan 16 2015, 12:16 PM
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Which for you is the Roquette?

Care to introduce yourself?


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post Jan 16 2015, 03:48 PM
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I like that it is against sifting because I am against sifting, but I don't think of a dripper as sifting.


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post Jan 16 2015, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(Jaded Prole @ Jan 16 2015, 12:16 PM) *

Which for you is the Roquette?

Care to introduce yourself?


hello there … simon from ireland here … aka l'homme verte …
roquette 1797 is the absinthe i have a 'supply' of …
i find that it numbs the tongue but not the mind … ;-)
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post Jan 16 2015, 08:39 PM
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I had hoped it paralyses the tongue.


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post Jan 16 2015, 10:03 PM
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Indeed


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post Jan 16 2015, 10:29 PM
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I like that it is against sifting because I am against sifting

Lumpy Gravy?
Sifting is the best.
Of all the paraphernalia in my mother's kitchen, the sifter was my favorite. Turn that crank and watch the blades go around, take it outside and practice on dirt.
Getting away from sifting is what led this nation to the sorry state it's in.
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post Jan 17 2015, 12:50 AM
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I never chop or sift my herbs though, that would be like sacrilege for me.


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post Jan 17 2015, 12:52 AM
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Good point.


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post Jan 21 2015, 04:10 AM
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QUOTE(Marc @ Jan 14 2015, 04:59 PM) *

Welcome FarbrengenVerte!

I thought Oxy would answer your other post in more details but he didn't. I will try to help but I'm not sure I'm the right person.

My understanding is that even if an absinthe contains no ingredients that aren't kosher, it still cannot be certified as kosher if the distillery uses wine alcohol freely, even if not actually in the absinthe itself, so I'm surprised about the Lucid.
As for Emile Pernot, none of their absinthes are certified kosher, for the reason I mentioned above.



Marc which Emile Pernod products are made with grain or beets? Do you know the specifics of any other products like Guy etc etc?


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post Jan 30 2015, 06:03 PM
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Pernot: the Roquette and the Berthe de Joux are the only ones distilled from wine alcohol afaik.
Guy: they don't use wine alcohol at all.
Devoille: I think only the Charlotte and the Libertine don't use wine alcohol.
Lemercier: no wine alcohol.
Combier: all of them use wine alcohol except for the Lucid and the L'Entêté.
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