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Abnorman
This was aired on "All Things Considered" on 14 May 2004: "'Hideous Absinthe' and France's Artistic Elite" http://www.npr.org/rundowns/segment.php?wfId=1897023



Conju
He poses very interesting arguments, I think I will buy his book. Thank you billly!
Absomphe
I bought a copy, several months ago, when the book was first brought up in this forum.

It's reasonably well written, and presented...definitely meatier than "Abinthe: A Sip of Seduction".
badger
I heard this interesting discussion on NPR Washington while driving last Friday. I found it very interesting but seem to somewhat disagree with the gentlemen who wrote the book in that absinth was the equivalent to marijuana or heroin of its time, anyone else feel this? I did seem to laugh at the end when I heard the advertisement slogan used for the Y2K rollover in the Czech Republic "Party like it's 1899!" Brilliant!
dangerousangels
Marijuana was available to the folks of the late 1800’s, as was opium to smoke(as well as dens in which to smoke it without hassle, laudanum to dropper in their whiskey(or whatever), as well as ether(sp?) soaked strawberries for the elite during snack time. All of this stuff was easily obtainable in ones local drug store, the man on the street, or your own family physician. Most all of it, with the notable exception of marijuana, FAR more vicious to the human system than a legitimate, distilled absinthe of the time could be. I would think, based on what I’ve read. Absinthe certainly isn’t remotely close to heroin or even opium in it’s affects(since heroin would not come around until well after morphine became available). So his comparison kinda falls flat. Gateway drug? It is not. Far too easily gulped down in great quantity? Guilty.
The Czechs I’ve decided, may make bad ‘absinth’, but they market it very well. C’mon man, party like it’s 1899 already. Alright!
MrGreenGenes
According to the NPR interview, absinth was never banned in Czechleslovokia and implies that it was been produced there for 100 years.

But on this forum it is claimed that Czech "absinth" was invented in the 1990s to capitalize on the mystique of the Belle Epoch absinthe, and that the there is no connectio between the two beverages.

So what's the truth behind Czech absinth?
badger
QUOTE (MrGreenGenes @ May 17 2004, 01:55 PM)
According to the NPR interview, absinth was never banned in Czechleslovokia and implies that it was been produced there for 100 years.

But on this forum it is claimed that Czech "absinth" was invented in the 1990s to capitalize on the mystique of the Belle Epoch absinthe, and that the there is no connectio between the two beverages.

So what's the truth behind Czech absinth?

I would also like to know. When I was in Prague one summer I asked a gentlemen at the bar why absinth, no e, was produced very heavily in the Czech republic. Of course him being a bartender and a native Praguer, he said the same it was never banned there and some distilliries moved there companies there, he also told me that Hills was around in the early 20's and ceased production durring communism but than picked up after the fall of the iron curtain. Maybe there was an age old tradition of czech absinth just never discovered that ceased durring communism. Remember, durring communism not a lot of folks could do a whole lot, c'mon you had to drive trabis and skodas made of recycled milk crates and eat delicous vegitables straight from the beautiful banks of the Elbe in GDR. I sure hope the moderator adds this post before someone writes the same or different and than I look bad.
Absomphe
It tastes like crap.
pierreverte
>So what's the truth behind Czech absinth?

no one can produce evidence (bottles, labels, advertisements, bills, documentation, a painting of someone setting a sugar cube on fire -which would have been far more interesting a subject than some dreary-eyed bitch staring into space) that shows it was produced or consumed in any commercial quantity before hills started promoting it in modern times.
i'm more than willing to stand corrected, should anyone produce something significant that gives any credence to historical lineage, other than some high-proof, artifically colored crap-alcohol that claims that to be made in bohemia makes it therefore a drink of 'bohemians.'
it is pitiful that even certain french distilleries have allowed themselves to be duped into believing marketing BS about flaming sugar cubes instead of researching their own history, written in their own language.
and prague is interesting enough without having to resort to twisting and distorting the history of other countries' products into their own.
as someone mentioned before, they should have stuck with beer, which kicks ass there, and if you drink enough of it, for a long enough period of time, i'm sure you could see things that weren't there...
Gertz
QUOTE (MrGreenGenes @ May 17 2004, 11:55 PM)
According to the NPR interview, absinth was never banned in Czechleslovokia and implies that it was been produced there for 100 years.


That it never was banned doesn't imply that it was produced. Rather the opposite, actutally. Countries where absinthe wasn't banned tend to be countries where it simply wasn't found.

Only Belle Epoque evidence of absinthe in the czech republic is a painting in the cafe Slavia in Prague by Viktor Oliva(1861-1928). It is, however, not a depiction of anything czech. It is a portrait of the french poet Guillaume Apollinaire.
Hiram
I've never heard such a load of horseshit. Like a little hit of acid? Christ.
hartsmar
QUOTE (Gertz @ May 17 2004, 05:08 PM)
Countries where absinthe wasn't banned tend to be countries where it simply wasn't found.

True. It was never banned in Sweden. Then again, the Swedes (except Strindberg) didn't consume all that much absinthe.

I tell you, I have spent countless days and weeks and months in trying to find something referring to absinthe here. Nothing. No glasses, no spoons, no advertisments remaining from cafés or bars. People here just cared for their beer and moonshine.

verbal_kraze
And porn! Don't forget, Swedes LOVE porn!
Patlow
with those gorgeous swedish babes, who wouldn't love their porn!
MrGreenGenes
Having finally sampled Hills, I agree that it is a completely separate type of drink from the French and Spanish brands - Like Coca-Cola and Orange Crush.
Absomphe
Except that both of those are drinkable.
verbal_kraze
What, Porn and Swedish babes, or Coke and Orange Crush?
MrGreenGenes
I didn't find Hills to be undrinkable.

I'll steal the words of another poster to describe Hills:

You can use Hills as Scope or you can use Scope as Hills.

Scope is much cheaper than Hills, so buy Scope.

AndrewT
Perhaps someone should do an investigation into the "secret ingredient" in Hills, a la Flaming Homers
Patlow
isn't it a flaming moe!

moe, moe, moe...

moe, moe, moe...
Conju
Ever since I joined here I have forseen that one coming.
Jack Batemaster
QUOTE (verbal_kraze @ May 18 2004, 07:44 AM)
And porn! Don't forget, Swedes LOVE porn!

They also make grate Absinth essence!!!
verbal_kraze
I dip my bluntz in it and trip BALZ!
Absomphe
Leave your blunt out of this... af1.gif
Hiram
QUOTE (patlow1040 @ May 18 2004, 10:54 AM)
isn't it a flaming moe!

moe, moe, moe...

moe, moe, moe...

Did somebody order a Flaming Moe?
Hiram
Or was this what you meant?

Patlow
hiram, you are the KING!
verbal_kraze
Nah, he's the Grand Gif Wizzy!
Absomphe
Hiram, this may have been before your time here, but I was Moe, of the three Evil Stooges, and I will not be retroactively subjected to the goddamn Czech flaming ritual, thank you very much!!! ranting.gif dev.gif
Conju
He's been around longer than I have.
Absomphe
Whoa...

That's like , an eternity, Dude! blink.gif
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