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Kirk
The banning continues at the WS and
censorship rules the day; speak out there and die.
1000 hits will get him 2 bits and it's all down hill from there, Hiram is now
the shill of swill,
the fart D'art.
Tell me Lord Hiram,
is it really worth it to you?, to hurt the people who helped you?
I heard it will be a subscription site , is that right? If I pay you, will you let me talk to you, in public?
You picky little shtick, you sick little shill you
I'm in bad shape tonight and this just won't do plus, it ain't all you.
Anyone else used to do what I do? It's a good thing you quit, it's not good for you.
But I'm looking over my shoulder, and I'm finding myself just enough (a lot) older, that you can take over anytime.
And what about the rest of you that show there, do you have much to say, other than: Have A Nice Day!
I think it gives absinthe a bad name, but that's just me.
Kirk
And who broke the Lounge!!!.
Damn it, I'd like to really give somebody hell, but most of you are either friends or minor despots so it's not really worth it for us.

Now gimme some major despots and you'll see some ass kicking!
Kirk
Forget it, I'm off. . .
Donnie Darko
I always forget to check the Wormwood Society when I'm online. If you want to really waste some time, MIT put their entire curriculum online complete with audio lectures for free. I must be some kind of mega-nerd to spend more time there lately than on an absinthe site...

As for the lounge, wasn't it overdue for it's monthly breaking? I was looking there yesterday and it was OK, but it's SQL errors now.
sixela
MySQL seems to be unable to open some of the index files (strangely, with an error 145, connection timed out).
G&C
Kirk, there has never been Free Speech at the Wormwood Society.


Ever.


Alan
Commercialism? Free speech?

This site also has commercial links at the top and bottom of every page: the difference is that they are links to Oxy's other sites. This is not a criticism of Oxy (he can and will do what he wants with his site), but I wanted to put Kirk's first post here about the Wormwood Society into context.

I have also noticed in recent weeks that there are many more postings there than here, and I don't think the posters there feel their access to free speech is threatened.
Kirk
They wouldn't, but I wonder if they think their free hearing is banned?
I think there's a difference between the links here and the ads for Czech swill that Hiram is now endorsing, Alan, I'm surprised at you, here, we pretty much all endorse those links , at the WS they must not speak out or they will be censored and banned.
Alan
As I read it, Hiram will be weeding out advertisements for those sites members don't feel they would want on the site. And the section above the ads states:

"The Wormwood Society does not necessarily endorse the advertisers presented here.
For absinthe-related purchases, we recommend you always refer to our vendor list, which are not sponsored links."
crosby
It would be easier to understand you if that penis wasn't in your mouth.
Donnie Darko
QUOTE(Alan @ Jan 11 2007, 02:47 PM) *

"The Wormwood Society does not necessarily endorse the advertisers presented here,
we just love their money. We're not that principled!"
Donnie Darko
QUOTE(Alan @ Jan 11 2007, 02:24 PM) *


This site also has commercial links at the top and bottom of every page: the difference is that they are links to Oxy's other sites.


Here is another key difference.
They are sister sites. They're all owned by the same person, who we trust.
They also don't sell flavoured vodka and call it absinthe.

The issue isn't over commercial links, it's about whoring yourself out to Czech makers who are responsible for furthering absinthe's reputation as a nasty hallucinogenic drink.
crosby
QUOTE(Alan @ Jan 11 2007, 11:24 AM) *

I have also noticed in recent weeks that there are many more postings there than here, and I don't think the posters there feel their access to free speech is threatened.

Sure, butt how much of it is worth reading.

Nothing informative beyond the "How do I get the cork out of my Jade" threads.

Nothing funny.

Nothing irreverent.

Nothing controversial.

Though Hiram will delete all posts accusing you of being a cocksucking shill, so I guess that's something.
hartsmar
QUOTE(Alan @ Jan 11 2007, 11:24 AM) *
I have also noticed in recent weeks that there are many more postings there than here


That's because of all the love and group-hugging.
Provenance
QUOTE(Alan @ Jan 11 2007, 11:47 AM) *

For absinthe-related purchases, we recommend you always refer to our vendor list, which are not sponsored links."

I looked at the list in question and could not quite determine how it was assembled. The list contained some reputable vendors such as Liqueurs de France along with a few rather dodgy ones. On the other hand, AbsintheClassics, which is well respected, was not on the list. Perhaps a non-sponsorship fee is required for listing.
Alan
QUOTE(Donnie Darko @ Jan 11 2007, 02:27 PM) *

The issue isn't over commercial links, it's about whoring yourself out to Czech makers who are responsible for furthering absinthe's reputation as a nasty hallucinogenic drink.

I don't believe Hiram has any intention of doing this: he posted "I'd appreciate it if folks could post the URL of absinthe related ads that should be filtered out so they don't show up. I really don't want to have to apologize to any newbies because they bought absinth from a site advertised here."
G&C
If was was so worried, he wouldn't be whoring himself.

Unfortunately, it seems all he knows.


If I was able to post this there, It would be deleted as soon as he noticed it.
Wild Bill Turkey
QUOTE(crosby @ Jan 11 2007, 02:05 PM) *

Though Hiram will delete all posts accusing you of being a cocksucking shill, so I guess that's something.

PTFA, Cros...
from the WS:
QUOTE(pierreverte @ Jan 9 2007, 11:20 AM) *

alan, glad to see you could work some shilling and a link for yourself into this thread...
crosby
PTFA, I don't read posts over there.
crosby
For the reasons I stated above and others.
Kirk
Hiram: " lets just blow the place out, sell to anyone who will pay, oh, if there's a problem, let me know."
Too late, asshole, and too late for you Allen, you are are making me sick, why don't every one of you little pricks just fuck off now, and quit grabbing at my jacket.
Alan, you Republican asswipe, how easy do you think it is to confuse the masses. . . ., never mind, god damnit, you win,
but I will promise you this, when I am dying in the gutter from supporting my principals, there is one word still I will utter:
Fuck the confusers, the advantage takers, and anyone else who knows but chooses not to care.
Oh, and fuck you Allan, and, fuck you Hiram.
Kirk
I'm not sure if I made myself clear: if I see you again, you better grab your balls, dear.
Anyone else want on the list?, Anyone I missed?
Kirk
I see you there, come out here now, you little bit,
I will spray you with some karmic xit.
I'm in a mood, step right up, free punches in the nose, who's next.
I bet you think I can't take it, I got news for you, I've been tortured by the pros, compared to the real deal, you're just a 2 bit shpeal.
Kirk
I feel like I'm leaving something out. . . Anyone. . .anyone? No?
Oh well no big loss.
The Standard Deviant
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Kirk
QUOTE
I really don't want to have to apologize to any newbies because they bought absinth from a site advertised here."

That will be the day, I've never seen him question anything the lord does.
Kirk
Are you making a joke or spreading the word, I mean, what does that have to do with this?
Kirk
QUOTE
This site also has commercial links at the top and bottom of every page: the difference is that they are links to Oxy's other sites.

You are thick as a brick: NO!
The difference is: these are gems, tiny treasures, and the foil ( a shiny reflector that casts light)
that sets them off and turns them to a jewel , is us, all of us, collectively, even you make the jewel, Alan, by the dark non- reflecting back ground you cast on us.
Those other things are detritus, gravel, and it's abrasive action erodes our beauty.
It's all about taste: good and bad, it's simple, isn't it?
Kirk
This is so good for us
It's worth it, you like these guys, right?
Kirk
I found this over there, looks like good stuff, I think I'll buy some, in fact, I think you should look into a partnership, Allen.With Hirams Blessings
jacal01
I don’t know whether you’re just off your feed or only now hitting your stride, but I’m feeling pretty smug mineself here about your take on this turn of events.

In Hiram’s defense, his lack of economic wherewithal of late has probably caused him to cashier some principles relative to some other more well-heeled principals. I’m just saying...

STD was probably pointing out Fluevogs & Xit as a suitable alternative for those who may now want to abandon Bushhuggers Unanimous subsequent to your torching rant. Gotta PTFA to what’s Kewel™.
Kirk
Interesting. Jacks is a great alternative.
" Hirams lack of economic wherewithal, (hmmmm. . . ).
Jacal, you want to see a lack, come visit me, some day when I'm brave enough, I'll show you a shot of my shack, but I will tell you this, for something true I'll pay you silver, and if it's from the heart, I'll pay you in gold,
but wait, what's this? My purse is empty and I live in a shack, yet, so rare they are, for every pearl you show me, I will pay you in gold to take back home.
jacal01
You make me want to go on a voyage of discovery just to locate some heart pearls for you. You may be poor, but you are ever the resident poet laureate. I would think that the searing scorn that you lay about is but the flip side of a generous sincerity in search of a kindred soul.

But even artists need patrons.
Kirk
I only need a little food, and I grow it.
You talk about generosity? I sent you a gift, you sent me money,
that was generosity.
It was no deal, I'm guessing that's how you feel.
I don't want anyone to get hurt, but there are things that belong in the dirt,
don't worry, everything will find its place.
I want to be dirt, a fertile mass, a holy blast, but, until I die, I may just make you cry.
crosby
QUOTE(jacal01 @ Jan 11 2007, 06:58 PM) *

...his lack of economic wherewithal of late has probably caused him to cashier some principles relative to some other more well-heeled principals.

That's pretty much what the crackhead who stole my stuff and sold it to a fence said.
salsa
troll gets what troll deserves.

Kirk
God, I just want to sabotage it all
especially any of my success (never yours) after all, it's nothing but excess.
I'm speaking for me, once I am dead, then you will see:
I told you I was sick!
jacal01
Generosity is only as much as it costs you. I aspire, but you inspire.

But once you're dead, I'll be rick, you see. Or just fertilizing along side of you.

I think you guys are relying a leetle too much on Karma here.

crosby
QUOTE(salsa @ Jan 11 2007, 07:50 PM) *

troll gets what troll deserves.

Norom™ is what Norom™ posts.
salsa
that's not to say that i support the decision to post ads, esp. since the site will never generate the traffic or click-throughs to make more than $1.

...just didn't see the point of the ad rant, and i'm not surprised at the outcome.
Kirk
"just didn't see the point of the ad rant,"

Show me the way then salsa, if I rely too much on Karma, lend me an axe, a repeater, or a grease gun, the super shun, tell me, where I'm holding back, what do I lack?
Kirk
True, advertising does nothing to effect culture, I can't imagine now, why I even cared.

You fucking dumb ass.
Kirk
You're all right, don't worry, I'm just a fossil, corn oil, a by product.
Move along now, there's not much to see in me,
I can't make you rich,
I can't get myself out of my own ditch,
but, I'll tell you what,: I like you, all of you, even you, Allan.
Something inside of me tells me we can all see, everyone will find his level ,
bevel it off, I'm on the edge, eliminate my share, I don't care
there is a whole slice that no one sees.
Kirk
And for all you cunts who can't capitalise, what do you want?
You fucking pricks, do you think every key you pick out on the bored is gold? Your shit is getting old,
Capitalise I, and, don't ask why.
if you expect communication to survive, then you little cunt, you better drop in line.
I'm not perfect, the keyboard is a foreign nation to me, but, I respect you, so I do what my brain damaged brain allows me to do: a capital, A period, maybe a Colan and then I'm through, unless I throw in one of these: ; , just for you.
Whatever, keep it real, you cannot imagine how sick I am of people trying to sound cool.
A designer I know, scribbles lines on a page that she doesn't even know, just to be cool, she means to offer a tool,
but all she does is demonstrate, we are all late.
Look, it's simple, it's a conversation,
what thrills you? what do you know is true? Talk to me,
and I will listen and we will both come out a head.
sixela
QUOTE(Kirk @ Jan 12 2007, 05:58 AM) *

You°re shit is getting old, [ ... ]
I'm not perfect,


Who°d have guessed?

--
°Balance restored
Kirk
God, Six, you mean you actually missed it?
Everything I know is wrong, but I sit here, lonely, waiting, for an arm, an enforcer, surely I'm mad, set me straight, you lagn of all grammar, can you stop me from stammering, please?
God, this it, and yet so much will come after me, I stutter, and again I say it.
It's possible that my message is crystal clear but, it prolly can't save a few
but there is something here, I hold it dear,
and I will plant this seed , wild it may be, I know it is the genome that keeps thing free.
Kirk
Six, I need you.
Donnie Darko
QUOTE(crosby @ Jan 11 2007, 10:50 PM) *


That's pretty much what the crackhead who stole my stuff and sold it to a fence said.


Now where have I heard that excuse of "I was on some hard times when I took your money for absinthe and didn't deliver" before?

What we really need is lots and lots and lots more excuses from everybody for everything...
Kirk
Well. . . 6. . . you
Dumbass, How come you didn't send me that half a bottle of Staropleznetski when I offered you the original Artemis Grille for it?
Not that I'm mad, Thank god I don't have some of that!
Seriously, I'm just having fun, I like you sixer.
Kirk
But do you realise, you would own the original, and have gotten it for a bottle of cheap booze?
Don't worry, the rest of my stuff is valued only slightly higher, really, now it takes a good bottle of booze to buy me, I used to be cheaper,
you think that's bad, wait'l I'm dead!
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