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Oxygenee
This new Czech site is worth looking at. On the face of it this seems a step forward for the "absinth" category - a more serious product, and an attempt to place it in a more accurate historical context. There are errors and silly claims - but far fewer than in the average Czech absinthe website, and the section called History of Oliva Absinth is especially worth reading. Assuming it's not all an elaborate hoax (which of course it may be), this casts some interesting new light on absinthe production in Czechoslavakia in the pre-ban era. It would be very interesting if there is someone here who reads Czech to know what the manuscript pages they show actually say, especially if this is indeed an Absinthe Suisse recipe.

The description of their "recipe" is a little odd (an eight day maceration, and it's not clear amongst other things what they mean by an infusion after coloration), but I'd be interested to taste this stuff.

Lastly, sparkling absinthe is an unusual idea, but one that does have an historical antecedant.
Wild Bill Turkey
Wish me luck.

If I suddenly stop posting, don't order any.
Oxygenee
Brave man, Bill.
Marc
I love the bottle

IPB Image

So why they named it "Oliva Absinth" but state on the label "absinthe suisse".

I don't think I could enjoy a sparkling absinthe anyway.
Oxygenee
What I also found interesting on the site was the bio of Vaclav Slavia, which includes a 1926 reference to a painting of his hanging in Cafe Slavia, the first - albeit indirect - independent reference to "The Absinthe Drinker" I've seen.

I also liked this sentence from the bio:

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In 1897 he was given the job of Images Editor at the very popular Czech language magazine Zlatá Praha (Golden Prague). He held this job for 19 years! Shortly after he started work there, he married a lovely girl named Anna Adamcova who was enamored with his talent.


Apparently his talent was absolutely enormous.
dr_ordinaire
I fail to see the logic behind sparkling absinthe. If you are going to dilute it 3/1 or 4/1 with water anyways, why not just use sparkling water?

As a matter of fact, a few paintings of the time show a soda syphon next to absinthe.
The Standard Deviant
It's called a marketing gimmick.
OKKVLTA
Sparkling absinthe? Hmmm, weird, but could be interesting. Maybe i should try this out when i get some money....
G&C
Bubbles in Absinthe blow.
Oxygenee
Duplais, 4th Edition, Pages 481-482: Absinthe Gazeuse
G&C
I never said it hadn't been done.

Oxygenee
I never said you'd said it hadn't been done.
Marc
What you say?
Jaded Prole
I have to admit some curiosity. I'll wait for a review. It is a nice bottle.

I have tried carbonated water in absinthe once and I must concur with G&C.
Bruno Rygseck
Their spoon looks interesting, kinda stares at you. Reminds me of a certain Finnish pastry.

Bill, I wish you luck.
The Standard Deviant
QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Feb 24 2007, 04:57 PM) *

Duplais, 4th Edition, Pages 481-482: Absinthe Gazeuse


I've just put my out of date copy in the recycling.

I think if you used nitrogen then there wouldn't be a strong flavour imparted like carbon dioxide would give. That might require a widget though or individual cans of sparkling water to add to the absinthe as nitrogen wouldn't stay in the absinthe after you first open the bottle.
dr_ordinaire
Since we are experimenting with gasses, why not nitrous oxide?

Then absinthe will REALLY make you trip...
Provenance
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17 Fl Oz,

They're not marketing it to Europeans...or to Americans who are familiar with the metric system.

QUOTE(Wild Bill Turkey @ Feb 24 2007, 12:09 AM) *

Wish me luck.

If I suddenly stop posting, don't order any.

I'm going to miss WBT.

Maybe I should order some so I have something to drink at his funeral.
Provenance
QUOTE(dr_ordinaire @ Feb 24 2007, 07:02 AM) *

I fail to see the logic behind sparkling absinthe.

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The bubbles increase the "absinthe effect", and tickle the tongue into ecstasy.

Provenance
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We talked to many Champagne and sparkling wine experts from around the world to get ideas how to do this.

Fermented absinthe?
Provenance
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Links

- Erowid's absinthe vault.
A great resource containing experiences, facts, and scientific research.
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justabob
If it used quality herbs and is indeed produced the way they claim I am sure it is a good product. Except for the eight day maceration thing, if true is a total waste of time.

I smell a rat, find a couple of pages in an old book and then make a product via the suisse method anyway, claiming a link to the past to add some sort of mystique.
Gertz
QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Feb 24 2007, 07:48 AM) *
It would be very interesting if there is someone here who reads Czech to know what the manuscript pages they show actually say, especially if this is indeed an Absinthe Suisse recipe.

Pan Buh over at the WS lives in Czecherland, and I think he has a fair grasp of their lingo.
rogue_designer
I love the testimonials...

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- I definitely give Oliva Absinth an the highest marks possible. I have tried many different absinthe and consider myself a bit of a connoisseur. This is heads and tails above most every other absinthe on the market. You have truly restored the good name of Czech Absinth.


Restored? There is an assumption in the use of "restored" that I'm not comfortable making.

Good luck WBT.
traineraz
QUOTE(Provenance @ Feb 26 2007, 09:41 AM) *

I'm going to miss WBT.

Maybe I should order some so I have something to drink at his funeral.

I've a feeling there should be plenty left . . .

Actually, they seem to have gone to great lengths to pretend that they're distilling an absinthe Suisse if they're not. Their selected testimonials compare their product favorably with French, and describe other Czech in less-than-flattering terms. This suggests to me that they're definitely trying to do an absinthe rather than absinth.

They also found someone with excellent English to translate their webpage and, as you noted, are clearly gunning for the American market.

I look forward to the review from WBT! (Or obituary.)
Wild Bill Turkey
Why can't it be both?
hartsmar
Funny that I cannot find anywhere a scan of the actual pre-ban Bohemian recipe. Only their own online version.

This IS very interesting. Sadly, there's been too many rides down this track before... If someone got to see the original recipe, I'd be convinced. It does seem promising though. :)

It's a good thing that there are Czechs trying to make quality absinthe. The only thing that worries me is that "Infusion" part, as Oxy said. Is that a 12 hour blast of adding oils or sugar or what?

But, again - it is interesting.
traineraz
QUOTE(Wild Bill Turkey @ Feb 26 2007, 04:21 PM) *

Why can't it be both?

An oBITCHuary?

Guess we will see!
OliAbs
QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Feb 23 2007, 10:48 PM) *

This new Czech site is worth looking at. On the face of it this seems a step forward for the "absinth" category - a more serious product, and an attempt to place it in a more accurate historical context.


Thank you. This is exactly what we are going for.

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There are errors and silly claims -


Please let me know about these. Our goal is to be as accurate as possible. For any new information, we try to have the actual scans of the documents linked in the text. If there is something we are stating that is proven untrue, I would be very happy to correct it.

We spent almost half a year going through hundreds of old magazines, newspapers, and books from about 1880-1920. Many of them, we had to apply for special permission to even look at. Most of the documents were in terrible condition, not digitized and certainly not organized. After all that work, there were only a handful of useful documents. There were also HUGE gaps in the publishing. We were told this is because they were lost or destroyed when the Socialists took over, and after out of fear.

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this casts some interesting new light on absinthe production in Czechoslavakia in the pre-ban era.


There is more good stuff. Take a look at this page:
http://www.olivaabsinth.com/history-of-abs...nthe-pg-11.html

The third paragraph down should be interesting to you. The following scan is from the turn of the last century newspaper.
http://www.olivaabsinth.com/skin1/images/s...202%20large.JPG
It is an ad from a liquor producer in Bohemia listing all the items they produce, including absinthe. They had been around since 1791, but were not likely making absinthe until closer to the end of the 1800's.

It is likely that people such as Viktor Oliva came back to Prague from Bohemian Paris with a taste for absinthe and spread that taste through the community. So the local cafe's began to import it. Word got back to the domestic liquor producers about the popularity of this drink, so they endeavored to make it themselves.

We found an item from 1888 that mentions that absinthe was being sold in Bohemia at this time. It also says that the Suisse recipe/procedure is the best.
http://www.olivaabsinth.com/skin1/images/s...naryAbsinth.JPG
There is no reason to believe that they would not attempt to produce this version, since they already knew it was the best.

I have personally seen a classified advert from The Times (UK) newspaper from the mid 1800's from someone selling their expertise at producing various forms of alcohol, including suisse absinthe. It wouldn't be hard for a Bohemian producer to find and hire such a person, or find a suisse recipe in some other way.

They may have added or changed the recipe slightly, but it would be essentially the same. We have tinkered with it ourselves to try to round out the taste a bit more. We are always doing test batches.


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The description of their "recipe"[/url] is a little odd (an eight day maceration


The reason for that is simple. It was included in the recipe. It may be an excessive length, but it certainly doesn't hurt (we did tests from .5-8 days and found little difference, so we stuck with the way it was written)

In fact, we are going to be releasing a Blanche. The taste is so nice right after the distillation stage that we decided to give it a try to see if there is a market for it.

QUOTE
and it's not clear what they mean by an infusion after coloration)


Not to worry. It's nothing terrible, just adding a bit of licorice flavor.

QUOTE
Lastly, sparkling absinthe is an unusual idea, but one that does have an historical antecedant.


It was not easy to do at all. But we thought it was an interesting idea, so why not try.


So I will attempt to answer as many questions as people have here. I want to be as open as possible, without giving away the store. I will appear here as often as I can.

I hope I didn't forget something, or misstate it here. I wrote a complete reply to this once already, but closed the wrong tab and lost it all and had to type it again.

Elliot Novak
OliAbs
QUOTE(mthuilli @ Feb 24 2007, 02:19 AM) *

I love the bottle

So why they named it "Oliva Absinth" but state on the label "absinthe suisse".


Because absinthe is spelled without the "e" in Czech and some other countries. Oliva is Czech, and our company is Czech, so we felt the brand name should be Czech. We also want people to know that it is Czech by the spelling. Although almost all modern absinthe made in Czech are awful, we do not believe it was always that way (pre-ban times). So we are proud to spell it this way.

However, this is an international product, so for the product description "absinthe suisse", we should and must use the more accepted international spelling.


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I don't think I could enjoy a sparkling absinthe anyway.


It is different, but quite nice. Many cocktails were made with absinthe and sparkling water in the USA.
OliAbs
QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Feb 24 2007, 02:55 AM) *


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In 1897 he was given the job of Images Editor at the very popular Czech language magazine Zlatá Praha (Golden Prague). He held this job for 19 years! Shortly after he started work there, he married a lovely girl named Anna Adamcova who was enamored with his talent.


Apparently his talent was absolutely enormous.


It wasn't enormous enough. She left him not too long after for a musician with an even bigger (throbbing?) talent.
OliAbs
QUOTE(Jaded Prol @ Feb 24 2007, 01:17 PM) *

I have to admit some curiosity. I'll wait for a review. It is a nice bottle.


Thank you. We haven't had a lot of positive response to the black bottle. People want to display that they have a bottle of green stuff. But we decided that it was more important to keep the light from affecting the color.
OliAbs
QUOTE(hartsmar @ Feb 27 2007, 12:03 AM) *

Funny that I cannot find anywhere a scan of the actual pre-ban Bohemian recipe. Only their own online version.


It's right there in the History of Oliva Absinth section:
http://www.olivaabsinth.com/skin1/images/s...%20page%201.jpg
http://www.olivaabsinth.com/skin1/images/s...%20page%202.jpg

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It's a good thing that there are Czechs trying to make quality absinthe. The only thing that worries me is that "Infusion" part, as Oxy said. Is that a 12 hour blast of adding oils or sugar or what?


No sugar. Why would we need sugar with the herbs we are using?
Marc
Welcome OliAbs abs-cheers.gif
And thanx for answering our question marks.

Wild Bill Turkey is our first guinea pig so we are waiting for his comments/review, his bottle is stuck in customs for the moment though.
Oxygenee
QUOTE(OliAbs @ Mar 6 2007, 01:28 PM) *

QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Feb 23 2007, 10:48 PM) *

This new Czech site is worth looking at. On the face of it this seems a step forward for the "absinth" category - a more serious product, and an attempt to place it in a more accurate historical context.


Thank you. This is exactly what we are going for.

QUOTE
There are errors and silly claims -


Please let me know about these. Our goal is to be as accurate as possible. For any new information, we try to have the actual scans of the documents linked in the text. If there is something we are stating that is proven untrue, I would be very happy to correct it.
Elliot Novak


Most of the information is, as I said, commendably accurate, and often backed up with historical documents.

But here's an error:
http://www.olivaabsinth.com/history-of-abs...nthe-pg-11.html
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Most of the world has opened up to absinthe now, with the Notable exceptions of the USA and France.

Absinthe is freely and legally made and sold in France, subject only to some technical restrictions and labelling laws, so the situation there is not at all comparable to that in the US.

And here's a silly claim:
http://www.olivaabsinth.com/ritual-buy-absinthe-pg-12.html
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There are many wonderful herbs in our absinthe that have very special effects on humans. Some of them have a stimulating effect. Some have a relaxing effect. Some even have a sexual aspect to them.

There are no herbs in absinthe that have any proven "sexual aspect", nor is this even a claim that was ever regularly made about absinthe until the Czech producers started doing so in the last decade.

Anyway, overall you've done an excellent job with the site, and even more importantly, for the first time put some verifiable information on Czech absinthe history into the public domain.

OliAbs

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Most of the information is, as I said, commendably accurate, and often backed up with historical documents.


Thank you. It really is important to me/us.

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Absinthe is freely and legally made and sold in France, subject only to some technical restrictions and labelling laws, so the situation there is not at all comparable to that in the US.


It is comparable because it is now only allowed because someone figured out a way around the laws (Making sure the label says some other phrase than simply "Absinthe". The laws are still in the books, right? Or am I misinformed about this? Could you specify to me the exact difference so I can correct that?

QUOTE
And here's a silly claim:
http://www.olivaabsinth.com/ritual-buy-absinthe-pg-12.html
There are many wonderful herbs in our absinthe that have very special effects on humans. Some of them have a stimulating effect. Some have a relaxing effect. Some even have a sexual aspect to them.
There are no herbs in absinthe that have any proven "sexual aspect", nor is this even a claim that was ever regularly made about absinthe until the Czech producers started doing so in the last decade.


Well, I am sure if I went back through the records I was looking through (US, UK, and Czech) I would find several claims that absinthe has aphrodisiac qualities. These may have been made by the reporter writing the story however.

In any case, here is a nice article that lists several herbs that have a sexual bit to them. At least one may be of interest to you:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_...18/ai_n14522712

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Anyway, overall you've done an excellent job with the site, and even more importantly, for the first time put some verifiable information on Czech absinthe history into the public domain.


Thank you very much. It was incredibly difficult to get this information, and I can understand why, with our history. If Czech absinthe was made (and likely mostly sold) domestically, any adverts and other information would have been kept mostly in the area. With the socialist and soviet problems, so much of our history was destroyed. My family has told me many stories of getting rid of things considered too decadent or too Western. The librarian told me that many of the records we was looking at, were saved by heroic librarians who risked their "freedom" to save as many documents and records as they could.

One thing I didn't consider until just now, was the immigration to the US of Czech people trying to escape before the Socialists. Perhaps some of Bohemian absinthe history is even in the US now.
rogue_designer
QUOTE(OliAbs @ Mar 6 2007, 11:32 AM) *

One thing I didn't consider until just now, was the immigration to the US of Czech people trying to escape before the Socialists. Perhaps some of Bohemian absinthe history is even in the US now.


That's a good point. Much of my mother's family is from Bohemia, emigrated here in the 1910's. I'll ask around to some of the ones that are still talking to us (long story). biggrin.gif
OliAbs
QUOTE(mthuilli @ Mar 6 2007, 02:56 AM) *

Welcome OliAbs abs-cheers.gif
And thanx for answering our question marks.

Wild Bill Turkey is our first guinea pig so we are waiting for his comments/review, his bottle is stuck in customs for the moment though.


Thank you! I am very much hoping he likes it. The original recipe test batch was much too bitter. We have mostly corrected that now.

Customs is the biggest pain in our butt. When we decided to sell also directly to customers, we thought it would be easier than this. The system here is not really set up for this kind of e-commerce. It works by coincidence.
Oxygenee
QUOTE(OliAbs @ Mar 6 2007, 08:32 PM) *


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Absinthe is freely and legally made and sold in France, subject only to some technical restrictions and labelling laws, so the situation there is not at all comparable to that in the US.


It is comparable because it is now only allowed because someone figured out a way around the laws (Making sure the label says some other phrase than simply "Absinthe". The laws are still in the books, right? Or am I misinformed about this? Could you specify to me the exact difference so I can correct that?

QUOTE
And here's a silly claim:
http://www.olivaabsinth.com/ritual-buy-absinthe-pg-12.html
There are many wonderful herbs in our absinthe that have very special effects on humans. Some of them have a stimulating effect. Some have a relaxing effect. Some even have a sexual aspect to them.
There are no herbs in absinthe that have any proven "sexual aspect", nor is this even a claim that was ever regularly made about absinthe until the Czech producers started doing so in the last decade.


Well, I am sure if I went back through the records I was looking through (US, UK, and Czech) I would find several claims that absinthe has aphrodisiac qualities. These may have been made by the reporter writing the story however.

In any case, here is a nice article that lists several herbs that have a sexual bit to them. At least one may be of interest to you:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_...18/ai_n14522712


There are, I repeat, no reputable sources claiming any aphrodisiac qualities for absinthe. None. Nada. Not one. Zip.

This wasn't a claim made during the absinthe era, even by absinthe's supporters.
It's a claim that is almost exclusively made in the modern era by the purveyors of fake Czech absinth, and if you want to distance yourself from them, I'd advise dropping it from your site.

The article you referenced is from the Sunday Mirror, a tabloid newspaper here in the UK that occasionaly reports the fact that Elvis was seen in Birmingham, and that the face of Jesus Christ has appeared on a toasted cheese sandwich. Their claim that women find the taste of anise arousing is amusing but is, and if you'll excuse me I'll use the correct scientific language here, complete crap.

On the other point:

Absinthe is completely illegal to manufacture or sell within the USA. Absinthe is completely legal to manufacture and sell in France, provided it:
a. complies with the EU thujone restrictions.
b. complies with the French fenchone restriction.
c. is labelled "Spiritueux aux plantes d'absinthe" (or similar) rather than just "Absinthe".
Dozens of legal absinthes are made in France, including many "Absinthe Suisse" types.

So as I said, the situation in France is not remotely comparable to the situation in the USA.
Ari
One of the minor issues I have with the site is listing our favorite porkchop, thujone, as hallucinogenic.
As others have said, I would like to see some better and unblured out photos of the recipe and other references.
Provenance
Pointing out factual errors on Czech absinth site is like arguing with a spambot.
Marc
HA!
OliAbs
QUOTE(Ari @ Mar 6 2007, 11:36 AM) *

One of the minor issues I have with the site is listing our favorite porkchop, chop.gif, as hallucinogenic.


I would like that not to be on our site as well. Can you please let me know where you found it? Here is what we stated on the FAQ:
"The positive, enjoyable, and unique effects of absinthe come not from the chop.gif, but from the other herbs used."

And this is what we want to convey. chop.gif is technically a hallucinogenic, but not in the quantities present, correct?


QUOTE
As others have said, I would like to see some better and unblured out photos of the recipe and other references.


The text is as legible as possible. We were able to fully translate almost all the text. If there is some text or part of a document that is unintelligible, please let me know exactly which ones and I can attempt to re-scan it. The problem is that there have been several floods and some of the documents were injured by this.
OliAbs
Please do not take any of this as a negative argument. I am very interested in all of your opinions. Gathering information has been the thrust of my job for the last year.

QUOTE(Oxygenee @ Mar 6 2007, 10:24 AM) *

There are, I repeat, no reputable sources claiming any aphrodisiac qualities for absinthe. None. Nada. Not one. Zip.

The article you referenced is from the Sunday Mirror, a tabloid newspaper here in the UK that occasionaly reports the fact that Elvis was seen in Birmingham, and that the face of Jesus Christ has appeared on a toasted cheese sandwich. Their claim that women find the taste of anise arousing is amusing but is, and if you'll excuse me I'll use the correct scientific language here, complete crap.


You may be right, but that was just the first site Google pulled up for me. There are many many other sources saying the same thing:
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:YZsNxe...;cd=1&gl=us
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:fkQUXn...;cd=3&gl=us
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:TG560q...;cd=5&gl=us

There are several others. I have not read any of the scientific papers either way, but there have been scientific studies done. If you are so inclined to pay for access, this link is one such study (both Anise and Fennel):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...l=pubmed_DocSum

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This wasn't a claim made during the absinthe era, even by absinthe's supporters.
It's a claim that is almost exclusively made in the modern era by the purveyors of fake Czech absinth, and if you want to distance yourself from them, I'd advise dropping it from your site.


I will and am considering it. If untrue, then I would absolutely do so. However, we didn't put it on there just to claim such a thing. We put it there because of citations we found regarding both anise and fennel.

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On the other point:

Absinthe is completely illegal to manufacture or sell within the USA. Absinthe is completely legal to manufacture and sell in France, provided it:
a. complies with the EU chop.gif restrictions.
b. complies with the French fenchone restriction.
c. is labelled "Spiritueux aux plantes d'absinthe" (or similar) rather than just "Absinthe".
Dozens of legal absinthes are made in France, including many "Absinthe Suisse" types.

So as I said, the situation in France is not remotely comparable to the situation in the USA.


Ok, I will clarify this on the site. In fact, I just did. Let me know if I got it right (last paragraph):
http://www.olivaabsinth.com/history-of-abs...nthe-pg-11.html
Ari
QUOTE(OliAbs @ Mar 6 2007, 12:14 PM) *

And this is what we want to convey. thujone is technically a hallucinogenic, but not in the quantities present, correct?

Nope. There's no evidence that any amount of thujone will cause hallucinations, unless you are counting Near Death experiences.

QUOTE(OliAbs @ Mar 6 2007, 12:14 PM) *

The text is as legible as possible.

I was mainly talking about the parts with red "censored" over them.
OliAbs
QUOTE(Ari @ Mar 6 2007, 01:40 PM) *

Nope. There's no evidence that any amount of chop.gif will cause hallucinations, unless you are counting Near Death experiences.


Ok, interesting. So can you please show me where our site says that it is hallucinatory? I tried to find such a reference, but had no luck.

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I was mainly talking about the parts with red "censored" over them.


Ah! I understand. Well, we don't want to give away the store. It's just a few of the herbs and quantities which are censored, not any part of the process. Please let me know if there is anything other than this that I could clarify.
hartsmar
This is all very interesting and I'm just sad I can't read Czech.
Nice that you're here to answer questions and all that.

Now, the reference in a dictionary from the Cz.Rep. doesn't mean they produced absinthe there. Absinthe (and many many other things) are included in dictoinaries and encyclopedias all over the world but was never produced in those countries. It's nice to see though, but no "proof" of manufacture there.

As I said, I can't read Czech, so I can't really translate that ad but does it say that they produce absinthe?
Many imported, bottled (like OEM) and branded absinthes from France... I'm just asking, to erase all my outstanding questions.

The most interesting part is of course to find out if this absinthe really ever was produced there in the first place. We all know that recipes for absinthe was readily available anywhere in the world. Are there any form of invoices or shipping-papers that indicate that it was actually produced in a larger scale?

Yes, I know, I'm skeptic but considering the roads I've been down before talking to certain Czech makers I don't believe anything until it's entirely proven 100% sure. :)
OliAbs
QUOTE(hartsmar @ Mar 8 2007, 03:32 AM) *

This is all very interesting and I'm just sad I can't read Czech.
Nice that you're here to answer questions and all that.


I am not just here to answer questions, but I am also looking forward to hearing the opinions regarding our product. As I said before, we are still tinkering with the recipe. All comments here will be taken very seriously, and will likely be used to adjust accordingly.

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Now, the reference in a dictionary from the Cz.Rep. doesn't mean they produced absinthe there. Absinthe (and many many other things) are included in dictoinaries and encyclopedias all over the world but was never produced in those countries. It's nice to see though, but no "proof" of manufacture there.


This is true. This is not offered at proof of production, but that it was known well and sold in Prague shops by 1888. Also that it was known that the Suisse version is the best. It says all of this in the text.

QUOTE
As I said, I can't read Czech, so I can't really translate that ad but does it say that they produce absinthe?


It is an ad from a distillery listing all the types of alcohol that they make. I guess they could be pretending to make it, when really just importing it and relabeling it. The seems a bit of a leap, however. They have the capability to make all forms of alcohol, including other herbal alcohols, so there isn't any reason why they wouldn't be producing it themselves.

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The most interesting part is of course to find out if this absinthe really ever was produced there in the first place. Are there any form of invoices or shipping-papers that indicate that it was actually produced in a larger scale?


This is also unknown. It was in their procedures manual, but it is possible that it could have been something that they wanted to make, but never tried. We cannot say for sure. We found about 10 invoices, but none of them said absinthe on them.

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Yes, I know, I'm skeptic but considering the roads I've been down before talking to certain Czech makers I don't believe anything until it's entirely proven 100% sure. :)


I hope that me being here and being as open as possible helps to make everything as clear as possible. We are not trying to make any outrageous claims, and are happy to remove and/or change wrong information. I do not wish to make negative confrontation or argue. I am happy that we are able to being some of the Czech history of absinthe to the forefront that has before been unknown.


traineraz
I just hope you get your shipping issues resolved quickly, so we can hear WBT's comments.

After all, the proof is in the tasting.
OliAbs
QUOTE(traineraz @ Mar 8 2007, 02:18 PM) *

I just hope you get your shipping issues resolved quickly, so we can hear WBT's comments.

After all, the proof is in the tasting.


His order cleared several days ago. It should be to him very soon. I am also looking forward to his comments.
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