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sipper
I am new to enjoying Absinthe, so I am just randomly purchasing bottles
mainly based on the bottle design. I was wondering if anyone had tried
either of these and if anyone would offer their opinion on these.

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Green Baron
You happen to have two of the most highly regarded US absinthes around. Much better than your initial bottle design inspired choice of LTV.

It's too bad out Buyer's Guide is out of date, I'm sure there'd be some reviews so you could see how others feel about them.

Are you ordering these from DrinkUpNY or elsewhere?
Kirk
You can't judge a book by it's cover but those are both good to drink.
speedle
Sure, what other product can you get a quality example of by just randomly purchasing based on bottle design?
absinthist
Really good choice.
Patlow
Drinking VC right now…

Good Stuff!
OCvertDe
If those were just sitting on the shelf in a local package store, then I officially hate you.
dakini_painter
I can't speak for VC, but my stuff is still only available in NY (except via DUNY), and the locations are very limited. Maybe someday that will change, but that's the way things are now.
pierreverte
based on your production capabilities it will be highly unlikely (or will take some serious time and effort) that your product will be picked up by distributors in other states, unless they are willing to carry it for fun (and, experience has shown that spirits/wine distributors rarely do anything other than that which will make money - you might even need to pay them additional 'tips' - money, gifts, trips, etc., known as 'swag', to give them the incentive to even try to sell it, no matter how good it is)…this is not a 'mean' statement, just the facts in the good ole USA…
in Europe, you could get distribution through on-line sellers in multiple countries (as long as you labeled correctly and had 70cl bottles)…maybe you should try sending it to Europe…
dakini_painter
All the activities you mention are illegal in NY. Not that all the distributors don't do that, they were busted by ex Gov-Spitzer when he was AG. But they just chalked it up to the costs of doing business and went right back to doing what they had been doing. So I'm told.

The bottling differences between US and EU are such that it's not reasonable for me to enter that market at this time.

I'm not unhappy with the business so far. The orders keep coming so I can only presume that the customers are happy so far too. abs-cheers.gif
Kirk
Safe assumption. Do you sell every drop you can make?
I think when you step up the size of your equipment you still will.
pierreverte
>I can't speak for VC, but my stuff is still only available in NY (except via DUNY), and the locations are very limited. Maybe someday that will change, but that's the way things are now.

QUOTE(dakini_painter @ Aug 30 2009, 02:10 PM) *

I'm not unhappy with the business so far. The orders keep coming so I can only presume that the customers are happy so far too. abs-cheers.gif


sorry, but it seemed like you were bitching a bit that things could improve, with your first post…my bad…after all, what do I know?
Leopold
It's truly great to hear that things are going well, DP!
Leopold
QUOTE(dakini_painter @ Aug 30 2009, 06:10 AM) *

All the activities you mention are illegal in NY. Not that all the distributors don't do that, they were busted by ex Gov-Spitzer when he was AG.


FWIW, every single distributor in the US does the things that PierreV mentions. Every one of them. And the bigger the distributor or supplier, the more they do it. They have so much money to burn, you wouldn't believe some of the stuff they do….especially in the larger markets.

Just sayin'.
pierreverte
too bad, for the most part, they don't really care how good or bad the product actually is or what 'specialists' might think of it…

c'est un monde de requins…Click to view attachment
Kirk
Torment Verte for instance seems to have money to throw away in the most unlikely places.
Gertz
QUOTE(dakini_painter @ Aug 30 2009, 02:10 PM) *

The bottling differences between US and EU are such that it's not reasonable for me to enter that market at this time.

I hope that it will be reasonable some day. Or that you will do it, even if it isn't …
pierreverte
actually 75cl spirits bottles are legal in the UK and tolerated in at least one other EU country…
absinthist
As of nowadays, the contents allowed in the EU are the following: 30ml, 40ml, 50ml, 100ml, 200ml, 350ml (haven't seen 375ml for ages so might have been discontinued as well), 500ml, 700ml, 1000ml, 1500ml, 2000ml, 3000ml, 4500ml and 5000ml. There was a plan of withdrawing 1000ml from the market but AFAIK those are still being offered.
pierreverte
the UK doesn't always consider itself part of the EU…
the other country is Greece….and you can be sure that the liter bottle isn't going out anytime soon.
Alan
PV is right that you can get away with some sales of 75 cl bottles in the UK. I was consulting for a 75 cl Tequila from end 2007 to early 2009, and we were able to place 75 cl, especially in on-premise outlets. Some niche off-premise specialists carry 75 cl (Gerry's, Vintage House etc). And on-line retailers too.

However, importers will query how serious you are without a 70 or 50 cl bottle.

And Litres? Here to stay. It's the key size in EU Duty Free/Travel Retail.
Leopold
I bet that Waterloo container will get you a single pallet of your Olso bottle in 700 or 500 if you ask, DP.
Absomphe
QUOTE(pierreverte @ Aug 30 2009, 10:46 AM) *

the UK doesn't always consider itself part of the EU…


Always?

I thought it was more like never, and that most Brits basically think of EUers as in-Continental barbarians. wink.gif
dakini_painter
Thanks for the tip Todd, I'll have to check it out. The next big ticket items are herbs and more bottles.

I'm staying above water, paying the bills so far. abs-cheers.gif
Leopold
So pleased to hear that, DP.

Hope you have a hell of a holiday season, saleswise!
Grim
Good news, DP.

That Regine bottle looks pretty slick too.

I thought, or maybe someone said, that you were already working on a larger alambic?
Wild Bill Turkey
QUOTE(Absomphe @ Aug 30 2009, 01:51 PM) *

Always?…most Brits basically think of EUers as incontinent

depends…
Alan
Most?
Jaded Prole
QUOTE
That Regine bottle looks pretty slick too.


Indeed!™
Absomphe
QUOTE(Wild Bill Turkey @ Aug 31 2009, 08:27 AM) *

QUOTE(Absomphe @ Aug 30 2009, 01:51 PM) *

Always?…most Brits basically think of EUers as incontinent

depends…


More like Huggies Pullups. (Damn word filters!)
Provenance
QUOTE(pierreverte @ Aug 30 2009, 05:49 AM) *
after all, what do I know?


A number of people have speculated on that very issue.
pierreverte
…™
dakini_painter
QUOTE(Grim @ Aug 31 2009, 11:27 AM) *

That Regine bottle looks pretty slick too.

I thought, or maybe someone said, that you were already working on a larger alambic?


Thanks for the mention of the Regine. That's new (stock item) since my last order. I'll have to get a quote on it. As pretty as the absinthe looks in the current bottle, stores simply don't have the best lighting for preserving the color.

I have dreams of a bigger, um, more professional, still. In due time.
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