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Grim
Did anyone notice the content of the most recent LdF Newsletter?

"With summer arriving early here in the UK, we are focussing on those absinthes which are lighter and more elegant in style than some of the full-bodied versions with which you may be familiar. As with whisky, absinthe embraces many different styles and this enables you to select the right one for every occasion.

We have some exciting news for lovers of rare absinthe. We have unearthed a trove of absinthes from the Emile Pernot distillery which are no longer under commercial production, such as Maitresse Rouge, 1797 and even a stash of L'Artisanale. We also have a number of early versions of our Brut d'alembic."
G&C
At what cost?
Kirk
How much is the L'Artisinale?
Grim
Dunno…

"As we expect demand to be high and quantities are low we are asking you to email us for further details including price and availability."

info@absintheonline.com
Provenance
The 1797 was Scorched™
Grim
From Oxygenee back in November of '06:

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Briefly though:

This was a joint project between Peter and myself, and was distilled immediately after the L'Artisanale. Some of the pictures in the Distilling section of the VAM show Eric's distillation, others - particularly those of the coloration step - show ours.

The idea was to use the 1797 Abram Louis Perrenod recipe in the Neuchatel museum as a basis for producing an absinthe that evoked the earliest 18th century versions of the product, before mass commercialisation started in the first decades of th 19th century. As will be clear from the translation Mthuilli posted, the recipe, in common with others from this era, is imprecise, and we had to extrapolate from other archival information (and use some informed guess-work), to arrive at a workable version.

We also experimented not just with the bill of materials, but with the actual distillation and coloration techniques. Some of our ideas had not previously, as far as we know, been used in the commercial arena. Some of these techniques were successful - others were not, or at least were not practical. I'd rather not go into more detail, as some of these ideas may be relevant for a future project we have in the pipeline.

Overall though we were happy with the outcome, and particularly with the absolutely remarkable development of this absinthe over the last 6 months of ageing.

There may be another trial version of the 1797 in the future, or the lessons learned may be absorbed into other projects. We'll see.

So that's about as much background as I can give you. Sorry not to have posted in this thread earlier, but as those of you subscribe to the VAM newsletter will know, I've been busy with another, entirely different batch of absinthe…


Edit: Please note, in the quote above, that the hyperlinks directing one to the current on-line sections of the Vintage Absinthe Museum were added into the text by me, not Oxygenee.
Provenance
QUOTE(Grim @ May 4 2011, 07:55 AM) *
we are focussing on those absinthes which are lighter and more elegant


Light and elegant?

I want an absinthe with meat on the bones.
jacal01
Collector prices. You've got to want it bad.
OCvertDe
If the L'artisanal wasn't a little 50cl, I'd spring for it at that price.
jacal01
Ya, that’s is the only one that might qualify as a one time event special production. The rest is tantamount to paying for the privilege of removing old inventory. Does anyone recall a batch run that was rather exemplary relative to the others? The Montmartre first edition is the only one that comes to mind, and it isn’t even one of the ones listed. Bottle aging distilled spirits ain’t all that. And the fallacious part may be that the quality of the COs seem to continue improving with each new release.

Nasty precedence.
Tibro
Nasty only because there's going to be buyers for it. If there aren't buyers the precedent, once the dust settles, seems appropriate.
jacal01
So, Stroller, did you pop for one of the L'Artisanales, per your recent lament over at WS?
Stroller
Sort of. I recently purchased two bottles (numbers 70 & 71) from a private party who no longer drinks absinthe.
jacal01
Bully for you. And most likely for a lot less.

One man's DTs is another man's Delites.

I've got an old liter bottle of Blanchette that you and me will put a serious dent in one day.
Stroller
I'd be more than happy to assist you with that. One of Ted's better creations.
jacal01
So you've implied. Um, um, butterscotch!

Maybe we'll rendezvous at Juanito's.
Deluge
Prices were not too bad. I've got a bottle of the L'Artisinale on the way.
Donnie Darko
Too bad they aren't making Blanchette like they used to anymore. It used to be a very unique and very drinkable blanche, now it's one of the more boring ones.

What's up with quality control at Combier?
Grim
Been a while since I had it…
Steve
Nothing to do with QC. I'm not revealing a secret (since it's been said here before) that a different source of wormwood is now being used. I agree, the first batches with Pontarlier wormwood were exceptional. It's still very good, just not as distinctive as it once was.
Donnie Darko
That's what I mean by quality control. It's not like Pontarlier wormwood isn't available in France anymore. A choice was made by Combier to make a lesser quality product (or else somebody at Combier decided very little wormwood flavor was a good idea, even though people liked Blanchette as it was and they had repeat buyers).

What are people's opinions of the newer Jades? Does everyone think they're the same as or better than the earlier bottlings?
I always liked the older ones but the last one I had was from 2008 so I can't comment on whether they have remained consistent quality wise.
Stroller
I'm not sure they are better than newer offerings, Eddy's color isn't as deep as it use to be. I had some last year and that was the first thing I noticed. My only issue with drinking Jade is the price, I'd understand if it was a huge leap in quality over others on the market but it's not.
sixela
QUOTE(Steve @ May 25 2011, 02:34 PM) *

It's still very good, just not as distinctive as it once was.


I don't think it's "still very good".

Provenance
Why was the AA source changed for the Blanchette? That was great wormwood.
sixela
QUOTE(Donnie Darko @ May 25 2011, 02:48 PM) *

What are people's opinions of the newer Jades?


"It depends". Seriously, I've had now three batches of Eddy and none were what I'd call the same product, and I have the same experience with VS (with one particular batch totally overwhelmed by the colouring even after years and years). The quality, fortunately, doesn't always go downhill, but you need some luck to get a good one.

Steve
QUOTE(sixela @ May 25 2011, 09:48 AM) *
QUOTE(Steve @ May 25 2011, 02:34 PM) *

It's still very good, just not as distinctive as it once was.


I don't think it's "still very good".


I believe it's "very good" if compared with the current bunch of les bleues from the Val de Travers.
Kirk
Relativity is not an alcoholics theory.
Steve
QUOTE(sixela @ May 25 2011, 10:07 AM) *
QUOTE(Donnie Darko @ May 25 2011, 02:48 PM) *

What are people's opinions of the newer Jades?


"It depends". Seriously, I've had now three batches of Eddy and none were what I'd call the same product, and I have the same experience with VS (with one particular batch totally overwhelmed by the colouring even after years and years). The quality, fortunately, doesn't always go downhill, but you need some luck to get a good one.


I would guess those three batches were separated by time quite a bit. Since they are all stored in soleras, that should provide quite a lot of consistency.
Kirk
The point is, Ted knows how to make good absinthe but all his products have been consistently going down hill, why is that?
The first runs had a funk, the later, nothing.
sixela
QUOTE(Steve @ May 25 2011, 09:03 PM) *

I believe it's "very good" if compared with the current bunch of les bleues from the Val de Travers.

Yeah, it's better than Hill's too. Actually, it's no longer as good as CAB's wormwood bomb.

sixela
QUOTE(Steve @ May 25 2011, 09:06 PM) *

I would guess those three batches were separated by time quite a bit. Since they are all stored in soleras, that should provide quite a lot of consistency.


Should, but doesn't. Colour me perplexed at the variability if that's really a solera (unless it's a solera for the distillates but they're coloured afterwards). That or the herb sources change BIG time over the years.

Steve
QUOTE(sixela @ May 25 2011, 03:02 PM) *
Actually, it's no longer as good as CAB's wormwood bomb.

I completely agree with you there. Sapphire is one of my all time favorite absinthes, blanche, bleue or verte. But it's not being sold anymore, except possibly at the distillery.
Patlow
My absinthe fast is almost over… A few more short weeks to go!

Stroller
I'm jealous, wish I could make it this year.

Tibro
You probably have a better absinthe selection at home. Although the cast of characters does add a certain something.
Stroller
I'm sure there's at least one bottle there I could add to my collection. Well I'm hosting a couple of characters around that time, hope they'll be as entertaining.
Alan
QUOTE(Steve @ May 25 2011, 03:45 PM) *
Sapphire is one of my all time favorite absinthes, blanche, bleue or verte. But it's not being sold anymore, except possibly at the distillery.

Not even there.
Steve
Shit!
sixela
You want me to bring my bottle, Steve? Just so we can sulk over it (actually, so that you can sulk over it, I can't drink too much alcohol.)
Steve
We could probably find some if we ransack CAB's cupboard. I still have half a bottle too.
Provenance
An absinthe fast? Is that the time between breakfast and lunch?
Alan
QUOTE(Steve @ May 26 2011, 05:35 AM) *

We could probably find some if we ransack CAB's cupboard.

I know someone who wouldn't like that. pirate2.gif
Jaded Prole
Fasting is archaic given the present state of the world.
OCvertDe
Perhaps, but is still works wonders for breaking down kidney stones.
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