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Provenance
WTF?
Kirk
I heard they were moving to Canada.
Bruno Rygseck
QUOTE(Provenance @ Jun 24 2016, 06:43 PM) *

WTF?

LdF?
Kirk
They get two go backs and one re-do, right?
Jaded Prole
Nope.
G&C
Texit is next!
Kirk
Goes without saying.
G&C
I'm ready for Congrexit.
Provenance
Time for me exit
Kirk
hecksit.
Tibro
E-xit. I-xit. U-xit.

We all xit.

There's some sort of union in that.
Kirk
Jack xit
Kirk
QUOTE(Kirk @ Jun 29 2016, 12:54 PM) *

Jack xit

When ideology outstrips rigor.
Provenance
Ideology is rigor.
Kirk
I should have said intellectual rigour
"Intellectual rigour is a process of thought which is consistent, does not contain self-contradiction, and takes into account the entire scope of available knowledge on the topic. It actively avoids logical fallacy. Furthermore, it requires a skeptical assessment of the available knowledge. If a topic or case is dealt with in a rigorous way, it means that it is dealt with in a comprehensive, thorough and complete way, leaving no room for inconsistencies."
"Ideology is a collection of beliefs held by an individual, group or society. It can be described as a set of conscious and unconscious ideas which make up one's beliefs, goals, expectations, and motivations."
Tibro
Rigor
rigor mortis
stiffness of death
inflexibility of the joints
"Give me liberty or give me death."
a choice between freedom or slavery
Patrick Henry, Virginia's leading slave holder
and advocate for the right of states militias to bear arms
so that Virginia's militia could continue to function as a slave patrol
and avoid wording that would allow the conscription of southern slaves
into a Federal army and possibly result in his human property becoming free

Flexible joints good.
Mortise and tenon good.
Wooden thinking bad.
Kirk
"Slave patrol"
Now they just sit on the highways or chase grow rooms for the prison owners.
Jaded Prole
No, that's the cops. The old militias are now the National Guard -- still used to put down slave revolts. most local armories go back to the 1880's following the national Pullman-Porter strike and other worker uprisings for the 8 hour day. The forms of slavery change but you still need those slave patrols to keep the plebe in line.
Provenance
Brexecution
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Jaded Prole
One down.



(We should be so fortunate.)
Kirk
The world is run by buffoons, and they shirk the work.
Jaded Prole
Yes, buffoons, parasites and con-artists.
Kirk
When pressed for comment on the recent string of allegations of sexual misconduct by way of putting his hands up women's skirts Trump protested, holding up his hand and saying that to be fair to him they are really making a very big thing out of something infinitesimally small, adding that the women were so ugly he wouldn't touch them with your hand.
Kirk
"Some Democrats have also accused Comey of hypocrisy, citing reports this week that the director argued internally last month that it was too close to Election Day to publicly accuse Russia of meddling in the race"
The head of the FBI claims to not understand protocol, just exactly what is his job, anyway?
Today he has released all the dirt on Bill Clinton's days, while saying he can find no connection between Trump and the Russians, noting it was purely coincidence that Trump's youngest son Baron, only speaks Russian.
Tibro
The mini Donald (Barron) speaks Slovenian. The Donald Jr. speaks Czech.

The Donald speaks third grade Amurikan. No one is sure if he can read at all. Reportedly he never does.
Kirk
All three have credited Russian money and Russian business with keeping them afloat.
Tibro
Proof that the Russians must be desperate to have credited such a bankrupt gang.
Kirk
According to Donald junior in 2006, Russian investment was over represented in the Trump portfolio.
Tibro


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Tibro
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“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., said at a real estate conference in 2008, according to a trade publication, eTurboNews.
Jaded Prole
I don't buy the Russian stuff nor do I support the NATO/neocon push for war, but Trump is America's Breaks It moment. The scary part is who he brings with him and what he empowers.
Kirk
I'm not a nationalist and I don't hate Russians so these are thin arguments against Trump but they are what I have. I would hope that sheer instinct would keep a person from voting for him, I'm confused about the undecided.
I don't hate Trump supporters, I just don't feel for them. I come from a long line of Republicans and always felt they are decent people, with valid concerns, so it's a shame what gets done to them.
Tibro
I became aware of The Donald when I lived in NYC decades ago. A very successful friend who very much loves success and the shiny things and acknowledgements that come with success took me to look into the rather new entry of Trump tower. A lot of bling and gloss and xit that didn't at all reflect my life in NYC or anywhere else that I've lived before or after. I learned then, when I lived in NYC, reading the local press, that Trump is a self-serving liar who will cut anyone off at the knees for his own self-aggrandizement. Really, he's a loser, that says he's a winner. If you listen to what he says without scrutinizing what he does, shame on you.

He's never sat in front of a congressional investigation and had to answer questions for hours on end under oath. I don't especially think it's in the Hillary's advantage that she has. But she has. And walked away after the scrutiny time and time again. Think what you want, judicial scrutiny has let Hillary walk. The Donald walks because he knows the general public is impressed by wealth. Whether or not you retain your wealth by denying
payment to the people who do the actual work or not. 4 bankruptcy fillings, who do think has been hurt and who has been served?
Kirk
His wife payed taxes on the few thousand she made modeling in a year that Trump payed none on millions.
Jaded Prole
I'm casting my vote and then turning it over to the spirits.

No matter the outcome, we have to organize in our own interests and push the system but in the next few days, the spirits will flow.
OCvertDe
You think they're only going to flow for the next few days? Wouldn't that be a nice trick. There are millions of people who are still going to be stirred up like hornets over this election regardless of what sorry fool is unlucky enough to "win" it.
Jaded Prole
Sadly, you're right.

I recently wrote an article about this which ended with:

The tribalism and animosity this election season demonstrated with threats to not accept the outcome and of “2nd amendment solutions,” could easily devolve into a violent civil breakdown and social unraveling not unlike the nightmare of the Yugoslav break up or the horror happening in Syria. We are a nation increasingly, but artificially, divided. I fear that, if Clinton is the President-elect as you read this, the extreme-right will continue to grow if not confronted. If Trump is the nominee, there will be mass rejection of him as well. We can choose sides but it would be far more constructive to realize that we are, the vast majority of us, really on the same side. We need to understand that what really divides us are not race gender identity, ethnicity, religion, immigrant status or political party but class loyalties and manipulated fear. These are efforts of the oligarchy to divert our focus and keep us divided for their own security, because together we might threaten their power and influence by demanding real representative democracy, climate sanity and an economy that works for all of us. It is time to reject the divisive hatreds and come together as a nation and as a world beyond artificial borders to face the real problems that affect us all.
Tibro
Conflict is the new sex.

It sells.

And thus allows everyone to contribute the economy via social media.
Tibro
I mean, aren't we all about to overdose on the ready availability of porn already anyway?
Kirk
A good thing about election year is when they all come out of the woodwork and display their colors, if people could just remember what they look like the rest of the time we might be able to intervene sooner.
Isolating our fellow members of the human race is not working out, it only feeds it.
OCvertDe
Since we're all getting along much too well here in this topic at this point, I'ma throw this stick in the pot:

government is evil. You're just another human being, you have no right to tell me what I can or can't do, leave me the fuck alone.
Jaded Prole
Government is neither good nor evil -- it can be either. Together we can decide that you cannot rape, kill or abuse other people or act in ways that endanger the rest of us. That is called "society" and for it to function (on which being a person depends) some kinds rules and enforcement must exist. The best government is one we can agree on and in which we have a real say. The worst is just a tool for oppression and exploitation for the benefit of a few empowered sociopaths.

Sadly ours is more the latter than the former but a Mad Max alternative would not be an improvement.
Tibro
Our insect existence wasn't good enough. When sovereigns were anointed from conception, fed on royal jelly - or some such substance - with an innate mandate to govern and rule. While the rest of us labored for their good.

Then came the renaissance and we were reborn as rational creatures. Hard tack and gruel.

Next comes superintelligent beings. And they ain't us. Their lubricants won't be edible.
Tibro
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Invictus

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find me, unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

by William Ernest Henley


A little Victorian levity.
(onacuz to the Victorian goes the spoils. Or some such nonsense.)
Jaded Prole
Integrity comes at a high price.
Tibro
Yes, but having tuberculous (and surviving it before effective medications were available) gives one time to lie in bed and ponder how one may face the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune (to borrow a phrase from an Elizabethan).
Provenance
QUOTE(Tibro @ Nov 7 2016, 01:03 PM) *

Conflict is the new sex.

It sells.

And thus allows everyone to contribute the economy via social media.

And its grate for masturbation!
Tibro
It gets me fucking hard, I know that.
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